no explode or superpump?

[biggiesmalls16]

what do you suggest? if neither, what should i get?
Thanks

[Questor]

creatine, protein powder. my $.02

[jdeity]

Not that I would EVER buy either of those at anywhere near retail (i'd probably only buy them at maybe 1/4 retail, and even then I doubt I'd be interested).

But yeah, go with superpump if you're dead set on one of the two. Hands down. I'd take superpump any day of the week over noxplode. They're pretty comparable in price (of course that price is completely ridiculous, and not even close to worth what the products give), but I like the superpump blend waaaaay more.
(and that's based on both knowing the ingredients of both, using both personally, and hearing experiences of people who've used both. I know I said I wouldn't pay anywhere near retail for them, so you're prolly wondering how I know these things - the answer is I used to sell them).

[mikey4402]

neither

[Clifford Gillmore]

L-arganine, caffiene/guarana, tuarine, creatine and some protein powder. I like Sans' Fierce, thats got around 4g of arganine per serve in it - its a quality product, but it still doesn't do anything.

[KingWilder]

it's been said, but I need to echo this

neither

they're both a waste of money
you'd be better of getting some protein and creatine and using that in conjunction with a decent diet

[tallbill]

I personally like an energizer. It doesn't make me stronger of lift more, but it energizes me. Even with proper sleep, diet, and hydration I find myself yawning at the gym and losing focus partway through. I take white flood, and since I've started I haven't yawned once and stay very focused.

Call it a placebo or a waste of money, but it works for me. And no, just drinking 2 cans of coca cola before hand doesn't do the trick. I've tried it.

[Cirino83]

^^ try caffeine tabs or coffee

[Unreal]

Most "no explode" products are about 200mg of caff. A soda is 35mg, so comparing 70mg to 200mg is a stretch. Drink 6 sodas and you would have the same caffeine. Or you could take a 5 cent 200mg pill.

[jdeity]

Call it a placebo or a waste of money, but it works for me. And no, just drinking 2 cans of coca cola before hand doesn't do the trick. I've tried it.

2 cans of coke is still a relatively low dose of caffeine. I think cans of soda are close to ~50mg caffeine, I usually aim for 200mg when trying to amp myself up (sips on caffeinated gatorade :smoke: )



^^ try caffeine tabs or coffee

or bulk powdered caffeine. I've had the same $10-20 bottle of pure caffeine for like 2 years now, just be careful measuring it. I recently tried measuring it with a totally improper measuring device and took waaaaay too much. Totally sucked.

[Cirino83]

or bulk powdered caffeine. I've had the same $10-20 bottle of pure caffeine for like 2 years now, just be careful measuring it. I recently tried measuring it with a totally improper measuring device and took waaaaay too much. Totally sucked.

hmm I honestly never even heard of powdered caffeine you could buy in bulk. Sounds like a plan. Def going to grab some of this. thanks

[jdeity]

Seriously tho, don't try messing with the measurements. It's potent as hell. I got it from bulk nutrition I think, it cost virtually nothing and has 100's of doses in it (I usually wouldn't buy generic/bulk powders, but not worried much about contaminants in a product you only use 200mg of at a time).

I wasn't joking about taking too much - 200mg of this caffeine powder is only 1/4 of a 1/4 teaspoon!!! Just that tiny little 1/4tsp measuring spoon holds 800mg of caffeine. I had a 1/2tsp spoon and decided to 'eye it'. I felt like I was on crack, it totally sucked. This was a few days ago, real pita.

[Bikkstah]

1/16th of a tablespoon of my caffeine powder is 200mg...if you **** up you're gonna get stoned off caffeine =d

[Cirino83]

Seriously tho, don't try messing with the measurements. It's potent as hell. I got it from bulk nutrition I think, it cost virtually nothing and has 100's of doses in it (I usually wouldn't buy generic/bulk powders, but not worried much about contaminants in a product you only use 200mg of at a time).

I wasn't joking about taking too much - 200mg of this caffeine powder is only 1/4 of a 1/4 teaspoon!!! Just that tiny little 1/4tsp measuring spoon holds 800mg of caffeine. I had a 1/2tsp spoon and decided to 'eye it'. I felt like I was on crack, it totally sucked. This was a few days ago, real pita.

damn...sounds pretty potent lol thanks for the heads up.

[tallbill]

Most "no explode" products are about 200mg of caff. A soda is 35mg, so comparing 70mg to 200mg is a stretch. Drink 6 sodas and you would have the same caffeine. Or you could take a 5 cent 200mg pill.

Well I won't be ignorant. When I get back to the states perhaps I'll pick up some caffeine pills and give it a shot. Then again, the energizer that I use isn't a caffeine product.

[jdeity]

Then again, the energizer that I use isn't a caffeine product.

yeah it is

[emjlr3]

there is not much else legal out there that is, actually I can't name one, unless Eph. gives you energy, but I don;t know since i always take it with caff. anyways

[jdeity]

As far as legal stimulants, ephedrine, yohimbine (look for yohimbine, the extract from yohimbe, not just yohimbe), and caffeine are the strongest.

[Kong]

I agree with the caffeine, start with 100mg coz first time i had 200 and it blew my head off

[jdeity]

yeah people's tolerance to caffeine varies pretty widely. 200mg is around the sweet spot for me. 100mg is a good boost, not strong though. 350mg is when I start feeling tweaky and uncomfortable (those are all assuming low tolerance - when you use it daily you will develop tolerance quickly, and find you can go through tons and barely even feel it. Luckily, however, if you cease usage your tolerance goes back down very quickly.)