sustevol/omnevol

[withoutlimits]

Has anyone tried either of these? This guy at a nutrition place in Charlotte was telling me they're great, but from the research I've done I'm pretty sure it's an oral steroid, and for someone as small as I am (150lbs/6'0) it doesn't seem like a good idea.

Any experience?

[Paul Stagg]

Your initial reaction is a good one. I would not use this product.

[jdeity]

Any experience?

never heard of it, but usually if it actually is a real prohormone and does work, it will be pulled off the market. The current 'real' prohormones available changes so frequently it's not even funny. Also, fyi, if it is a real one you'll need to treat it as a proper cycle (I'm not recommending you to do one thing or another, that's up to you), meaning liver protection if necessary, post cycle therapy, etc etc.

[withoutlimits]

Yeah, everywhere I've read definitely says a lot about liver support and pct.

[jdeity]

And they're likely right. If this is indeed an effective, oral prohormone, it will likely (certainly?) be hard on your liver, so milk thistle throughout (lots of water, no alcohol/liver toxic drugs) is a good idea. PCT is absolutely necessary if they are the real deal and you are hampering natural test production.

These aren't to be messed with, I'd treat a ph cycle with more caution than a regular steroid cycle (I've done both, that's not just my guess on the subject. I took my research and ran my cycle way tighter on the ph I used (which is now banned) than on real test cycles.

[cphafner]

Has anyone tried either of these? This guy at a nutrition place in Charlotte was telling me they're great, but from the research I've done I'm pretty sure it's an oral steroid, and for someone as small as I am (150lbs/6'0) it doesn't seem like a good idea.

Any experience?

The one by Chen's Bistro/UNCC? Was his name matt, I hope not.