few supplement questions..

[getb1g]

1. Is creatine500 from At Large Nutrition a good quality creatine supplement? If not which one would you recommend?

2.I have heard wonderful things about Myozene being used as a post workout supplement? Anyone recommend it?

3.Is Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard a protein supplement?

[Adam]

Yes, very good quality.
Never heard of it, so chances are its not good.
Yes.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

MyoZene is so swift-acting and anabolically active it bypasses digestion almost entirely and begins supporting muscle recovery and growth within minutes of ingestion.In minutes! :rolleyes:


MyoZene is a joke. The ingredients are nothing groundbreaking.

[jdeity]

1. Is creatine500 from At Large Nutrition a good quality creatine supplement? If not which one would you recommend?

2.I have heard wonderful things about Myozene being used as a post workout supplement? Anyone recommend it?

3.Is Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard a protein supplement?

1) This is an atlarge sponsored board, so I can't say you'll find too many bad comments, but the word seems to be their creatine is high quality. In all honesty, your company really needs to suck to have a poor quality creatine monohydrate.

2) Never heard of it, and am guessing it's a joke (is it by EAS? They use that myo- prefix alot)

3) I'll assume you mean 'is it a good protein supplement?', and yeah, it's just fine, a typical run of the mill protein. I think they try to boost its appeal by adding small amounts of digestive enzymes and maybe some different variations of whey, but for all intents and purposes it's the same thing as any other tub of whey protein.
(If you were honestly asking if it was a protein supplement, and don't know how to tell, here's a good way. Protein is 4 calories per gram. Look at the package. It has serving information, and its facts are based on that serving. Take the protein grams (probably 20g in that product, off the top of my head), multiply by 4. That'd be 80 calories worth of protein per serving. Now, look at total calories per serving. If total calories per serving are ~100, then it's a pretty basic protein powder. If total calories were 150, it'd be more of a protein-rich MRP of sorts. Hope that helped, if you weren't sure about what type of product it was.)

[jdeity]

(should add that it's my understanding their 'gold standard' whey protein is just their regular protein, I think they phased out their '100% whey' for their 'gold standard' line.)

[getb1g]

Here are some reviews for Myozene. As well as some info.


prosource.net/product.jsp?path=-1|6430&id=21708

[jdeity]

ah thanks.

It looks to be absolutely nothing special, just your typical run of the mill overpriced post workout drink. With a price tag like that I'd at least want the flashy muscletech packaging :)

Seriously tho, if you already have your protein and your creatine, that product isn't offering you much, if anything, that you don't already have in hand. Just a way higher price sticker. (and btw, the reviews are jokes, I wouldn't even read reviews from the site that's selling it)

[Cirino83]

Seriously tho, if you already have your protein and your creatine, that product isn't offering you much, if anything, that you don't already have in hand. Just a way higher price sticker. (and btw, the reviews are jokes, I wouldn't even read reviews from the site that's selling it)

Completely agree. I mean would they really post negative comments? And most are probably made up themselves anyways.

Creatine from ALN is fine, and cheap and all you should look into is a good whey protein, unless you are getting enough protein from whole foods....

[getb1g]

^^^

The problem is I'm not getting enough protein from whole foods. I need to supplement. How much protein should I intake from protein shakes? Is there a limit? I'm thinking 50% of my daily protein

[mikey4402]

^^^

The problem is I'm not getting enough protein from whole foods. I need to supplement. How much protein should I intake from protein shakes? Is there a limit? I'm thinking 50% of my daily protein

it doesnt matter, just concentrate on getting your macros and SUPPLEMENT when needed.

[jdeity]

^^^

The problem is I'm not getting enough protein from whole foods. I need to supplement. How much protein should I intake from protein shakes? Is there a limit? I'm thinking 50% of my daily protein

As said, there's really no ratio I've ever heard to be 'standard' as an upper max % for powder. I'm sure people make great gains getting like 90% of their proteins from powder. But food is healthier than powders almost universally (I should've specified 'good foods').

But decide how much protein you need for the day (some people do 1g/lbs of bodyweight, others say 1g/lbs of lbm/lean body mass). See how much you can get from whole foods, and if you have a deficit, fill it with the powder. That's about as straightforward as I can be in that regard. (and the same goes for your fats/carbs/total calories. What was just referred to as 'focusing on your macros' is what I'm talking about here - your macros are your 3 major macronutrients - carbs/protein/fat. You need to hit both calorie and macro goals to put on weight properly)

[mikey4402]

But food is healthier than powders almost universally (I should've specified 'good foods').


why do you think eatting food is healthier then a liquid diet? (Given your taking a good multi)

[jdeity]

Because liquid diets tend to be missing many things that whole foods have.

1) vitamins / minerals
2) fibers
3) polyphenols
4) many other things that are not in powders, only natural foods

Now, you can try to fix these things through supplements of course.
1) take a multivitamin/mineral
2) take powdered/pills of fiber
3) drink a greens shake
4) ??

The drawbacks of doing so, however, are
1) vitamins and minerals can / will compete for absorbtion, they are not balanced in a multivitamin like they are in natural foods
2) fiber comes in many 'flavors' so to speak, so just dumping some psyllium husk in your weightgainer isn't really the same as getting your fiber from fruits/veggies/oats/etc
3) The greens drinks, well, they're hella expensive, there's really no way to know you're getting what you need and in the amounts you need, etc
4) ??


Now, I'll be the first to admit that while I'm bulking, you'll see me eating pretty crappy (by standards here anyways!), and making up for it (as well as I possibly can) by supplementing with multis/fiber powders/etc, but at the end of the day there's just no way a man-made, powdered diet that you mix with water can match the health benefits of real whole foods. Not at this point in time anyways.