View Full Version : So I might get murdered tomorrow
Behemoth
10-11-2007, 04:28 PM
I've been seeing a girl whose in a relationship, but he's abusive so it really doesn't bother my conscience. She lives with him but despises him and tomorrow she will be moving out to her own place.
It is sketchy because he's supposed to be gone and we're trying to get her out without conflict. But there is a chance he'll return but we have to risk it. Me and him have a history and I don't hate people but I hate him. He's psychotic and tried to have me arrested on multiple felony charges because he's insecure about himself and his relationship and felt threatened by me. It's never fun walking out the door to go to the gym and being handed a search warrant for your house while 6 officers from 2 PD's play room raiders in your apt. Luckily he's an idiot and doesn't understand the law and none of his BS stuck.
Anyhow... theres a fair chance he'll return tomorrow and I really can't begin to guess what reaction he might have. I'm not sure I would put it past him to try and kill me:hide: ? I'm definetly putting the PD on speeddial and am thinking of notifying them ahead of time. Wish me luck haha
Altephor
10-11-2007, 04:30 PM
Get murdered? This title should say 'arrested for murder'.
ncsuLuke
10-11-2007, 04:33 PM
this is why i have my concealed handgun license
BigCorey75
10-11-2007, 04:34 PM
stay safe and stay locked and loaded is all i gotta say
Behemoth
10-11-2007, 04:38 PM
Get murdered? This title should say 'arrested for murder'.
I would never attack this guy. I hope he assaults me so I can press charges... I just hope he doesn't assualt me with a deadly weapon and/or force. There will be one other guy helping so at least theres another witness if I end up having to defend myself:help:
when are some of you guys ever going to learn? you don't get involved with women with these kind of problems. it just creates problems for you, which isn't worth it.
that said, i totally agree with corey. if you really feel like this guy will try to assault you with some sort of weapon bring one of your own.
RedSpikeyThing
10-11-2007, 05:21 PM
If you don't have a gun licencse, bring a knife.
Is there any way you could call the PD and ask them for suggestions? If you know what time you're going to be moving they may come drive by.
iLikeMilk
10-11-2007, 05:44 PM
Bring a couple of ur jacked friends. He aint gona do **** and if he does u got witnesses.
minime_moomey
10-11-2007, 05:47 PM
I think notifying the police ahead of time is the best bet. Fact of the matter is, if he attacks you with a weapon or not, and you attack back, especially with a weapon, you will be f***ed by the long d*** of the law! Technically you will be on his property, therefore trespassing which basically screws you no matter what you do. Not even self-defense is going to hold up in your favor...But good luck! :thumbup: I support you helping someone get out of an abusive relationship
sharkall2003
10-11-2007, 05:49 PM
So, you're pissed that you're in a relationship with a woman that was cheating on her boyfriend? So, you've been a part of helping someone cheat and you expect him not to be mad? That's some pretty ******ed logic.
Behemoth
10-11-2007, 05:50 PM
Don't have a gun license. I have hunting rifles but can't take them out of my truck really. I have a knife but he does too... :hide: I think I will notify the PD but it's going to take a few hours they can't be there the whole time I'm sure. Hopefully he just won't happen to show up and we can deal with it once he cools down with likely restraining orders and whatnot. On any other occassion I'd agree with RBB, but this isn't a situation where I'm playing hero and saving the chick. I'm just assisting the chick who is trying to help herself.
Behemoth
10-11-2007, 05:53 PM
So, you're pissed that you're in a relationship with a woman that was cheating on her boyfriend? So, you've been a part of helping someone cheat and you expect him not to be mad? That's some pretty ******ed logic.
When did I say I was pissed? When did I say I didn't expect him to be mad?
You have some "pretty ******" reading comprehension my man. I am not pissed and I fully and entirely expect him to be mad.
jAy_Dub
10-11-2007, 05:55 PM
Sharkall and RBB are right on.
What makes you think that someday this same situation wont happen to you? She cheated on her old b/f so why wouldnt she do it with you? Her excuse is he's abusive, but there is no doubt that she can make some excuse about you down the road and be reason enough in her mind to cheat again. My friend was in the same type of situation, and that bitch never changed, and she never will. Most women like that will be jumping from relationship to relationship cheating on every bf they have.
Overall just a bad situation to be involved in. Good luck though.
sharkall2003
10-11-2007, 06:01 PM
When did I say I was pissed? When did I say I didn't expect him to be mad?
You have some "pretty ******" reading comprehension my man. I am not pissed and I fully and entirely expect him to be mad.
Maybe pissed wasn't the right word, but why would you even bring something like this to your situation? It makes not sense. Let alone, does doing more things that are going to aggravate him make sense. Why doesn't your "girl" go break it off with this guy and then have her family or a couple of her friends help her move out instead of you trying to intervene and only make things complicated.
Brawl
10-11-2007, 06:12 PM
Let me help you bro ... she's a dips h * t ... any chick that stays with a dude that abuses them is a dips h * t ...I know she is because she hasnt called the cops on the guy ... because she could move her stuff out when he's sitting in jail . Or SHE could call the cops because HE has a history of abuse ...
See where I'm going . Dump her ... she isnt smart enouigh to change her address on a dude abusing her ... she's stupid .
Women have divorced mobsters , so I dont want to hear lame excuses .
Behemoth
10-11-2007, 06:15 PM
Lol... her family AKA mother lives on the other side of the state 6 hours away and shes literally not allowed by him to have friends. PS. She hasn't told me he's abusive I've seen it, I used to live in a house with him. If I ever treat a girl half as bad as him I hope she cheats on me in a heartbeat
Besides, shes never even really cheated my dudes... just seeing me and talking and **** for the past month. Finally shes taking a step to leave him herself and I offer to help move her out and I'm doing something wrong? Lol... it's the internet I'm not responding to either of you again because I don't feel like arguing over petty **** like this.
I personally feel like what I'm doing is the right the thing. If you personally feel that what I'm doing is the wrong thing then I simply appreciate your good nature in looking out for someone you don't know. I've made my decision and if you disagree with it let me live with it.
Apart from that I hope I don't get knifed tomorrow so you try to say you told me so haha:study:
Stumprrp
10-11-2007, 06:16 PM
what an idiot, buy a shotgun and invite him over for beers, when he gets to the door tell him if he ever comes back you WILL blow his head off.
or..more realistically, be careful and watch your back.
sharkall2003
10-11-2007, 06:18 PM
I've been seeing a girl whose in a relationship, but he's abusive so it really doesn't bother my conscience.
So, why haven't you just told her to break it off with him. And have her call the police?
BilltheButcher
10-11-2007, 06:20 PM
Call the cops, or don't you have any buddies you can have come and watch your back? Hvae 4 or 5 guy come over and this guy doesn't stand a chance. Problem is this guy is gonna call the cops, saying she stole his stuff etc.etc.
Your better off calling the cops before hand and explain the situation and see what they can do to help the scenario, doesn't hurt.
Behemoth
10-11-2007, 06:24 PM
Let me help you bro ... she's a dips h * t ... any chick that stays with a dude that abuses them is a dips h * t ...I know she is because she hasnt called the cops on the guy ... because she could move her stuff out when he's sitting in jail . Or SHE could call the cops because HE has a history of abuse ...
See where I'm going . Dump her ... she isnt smart enouigh to change her address on a dude abusing her ... she's stupid .
Women have divorced mobsters , so I dont want to hear lame excuses .
Apparently you don't know much about abusive relationships... to be very polite you should really do a very minor amount of research to see why chicks stay in them. apart from that shes been saving for a car so she could leave him and get to and from work when she does leave him... guess what happened now? ding.
I don't know where you came up with I was captain-save-a-ho because I've been seeing her and am helping her move out. I'd say her doing this **** on her own takes more maturity than I'll find in any other chick my age.
LIke I said to RBB and Sharkall. I'm not trying to fight and I'm not trying for sympathy, I'm more mature than that. You have your opinions and youre entitled to them. If what I said conveyed a situation youve seen then I honestly thank you for you concern (even if it was stated mildly rudely). If things go sour and I end up getting my world trashed then you also can say I told you so, I however will not do the same.
Behemoth
10-11-2007, 06:26 PM
Call the cops, or don't you have any buddies you can have come and watch your back? Hvae 4 or 5 guy come over and this guy doesn't stand a chance. Problem is this guy is gonna call the cops, saying she stole his stuff etc.etc.
Your better off calling the cops before hand and explain the situation and see what they can do to help the scenario, doesn't hurt.
Thats probably what I'll do. I am a personal fan of law enforcement.
MrWebb78
10-11-2007, 06:32 PM
if you really feel like this guy will try to assault you with some sort of weapon bring one of your own.
I disagree. The best solution would be to not show up at all.
To Behemoth; notify the police in advance and see if you can't have THEM on site to monitor this girl moving out.
BilltheButcher
10-11-2007, 06:35 PM
Thats probably what I'll do. I am a personal fan of law enforcement.
Oh, and do not bring a knife. If he shows up and gets violent, get the F out of there. If you pull the knife and do anything, your going away for a long time.
sharkall2003
10-11-2007, 06:36 PM
Don't bring a weapon, because that means it was planned and that will cause a lot of harm to you in court. Best case scenario is to have HER call the law enforcement agency in your district and have them see to it that she moves out and is safely escorted.
Brawl
10-11-2007, 06:38 PM
I know about abusive relationships and women ... they're stupid for letting it continue ...you can pick all the studies of this and that you want in the end , they're stupid .
Stumprrp
10-11-2007, 06:38 PM
Oh, and do not bring a knife. If he shows up and gets violent, get the F out of there. If you pull the knife and do anything, your going away for a long time.
why? if its a legal size knife and the man attacks him god forbid, its self defense.
MrWebb78
10-11-2007, 06:40 PM
"Don't bring a knife to a gunfight."
VikingWarlord
10-11-2007, 06:53 PM
This is going to sound harsh, but if you get involved with a girl that has baggage, you WILL end up carrying it for her.
It's awesome that every time I get the urge to date again, something like this comes up to remind me why I don't ****ing bother.
Bikkstah
10-11-2007, 07:00 PM
If his name is on the apt. lease and he comes home and **** goes down, you're going to have a REAL hard time with that one in court. You're on his property.
I know about abusive relationships and women ... they're stupid for letting it continue ...you can pick all the studies of this and that you want in the end , they're stupid .
you guys should all listen to Brawl here, cause he's right on. i don't give a **** what a study says or what kind of excuses they come up with, women that stay in abusive relationships are nothing but trouble. they're all ****ed in the head.
MrWebb78
10-11-2007, 08:13 PM
Isn't the point of this thread that she IS NOT staying?
VikingWarlord
10-11-2007, 08:18 PM
Isn't the point of this thread that she IS NOT staying?
Actually, the point of the thread is that the OP is afraid some **** is going down because he got involved with a woman married to an abusive man, and has Captained his way into a potential ass-beating, hence the thread title.
BigCorey75
10-11-2007, 08:20 PM
Brawl made a good point, any woman that is willing to put you in a position like this isnt worth it man.
but if ya wanna go through with it i stand by my first statement
stay locked and loaded
WBBIRL
10-11-2007, 09:17 PM
My take on this:
Consult the law enforcement officers and see what they suggest.
Make sure you bring up that this guy is abusive and you have SEEN him abuse her and that you think he will be violent again and try to keep her from leaving. Possibly assaulting her and or you.
I think its just ****en sad for a man to hit a woman, for any reason. A self respecting adult male should have more decency then to do that. You can be the bigger person without asserting yourself physically. I'd never do it and if any guy ever hit a female that I was a friend of or related to the **** would hit the fan quick. It wouldn't be good either, rarely do I get jacked enough to swing but that would take me from all nice and peachy to ****en physco in about 3 seconds flat.
However you shouldn't be doing anything with this girl, anything that wouldn't be constituted normal in a friendship until she's completely broken off with this guy.
If you do decide to do this, gather up a group of guys and DO NOT bring her with you. Tell her to make a list of **** she wants and where its at. AGAIN DO NOT BRING HER WITH YOU.
bjohnso
10-11-2007, 10:15 PM
Don't bring a weapon, unless you fancy an extended stay in the joint with the big boys.
Are you in love with her?
And she is going to make you that guy, you know that? in 1year shes complaining to everybody in the world about you. She wants a guy that slams her to the ground and yells and her, she loves the drama. She was molested as a child and a world without drama is boring to her.
She wants him to find you and her moving, then there will be even more drama for her, its perfect.
F**** drama queen.
BilltheButcher
10-12-2007, 08:25 AM
why? if its a legal size knife and the man attacks him god forbid, its self defense.
His apartment, its his property, so you are technically trespassing. Secondly, you know he is abusive, you are trying to sneak her out of the apartment without him knowing, so you bring a knife. Why did you bring the knife? b/c you know he is abusive or did you decide you were sick of his $h!t and were going to off him. Either way depending on the injuries to him, your going away for a long time.
If he has a knife you run the F away, nothing cowardly about it, if he has a gun, whats a knife going to do for you.
My take on this:
Consult the law enforcement officers and see what they suggest.
Make sure you bring up that this guy is abusive and you have SEEN him abuse her and that you think he will be violent again and try to keep her from leaving. Possibly assaulting her and or you.
I think its just ****en sad for a man to hit a woman, for any reason. A self respecting adult male should have more decency then to do that. You can be the bigger person without asserting yourself physically. I'd never do it and if any guy ever hit a female that I was a friend of or related to the **** would hit the fan quick. It wouldn't be good either, rarely do I get jacked enough to swing but that would take me from all nice and peachy to ****en physco in about 3 seconds flat.
I think this is a good suggestion.
Ask the cops what they would suggest. They may advise that you not be there, but if they do, then ask who is going to help her if he comes home when she is moving? I doubt it would happen, but they might actually post an officer, or atleast patrol by the place repeatedly. Even if not, it will be on record with whomever you talk to in the police department what is going on, and who the level-headed person is (you). So, if anything happens, you will be the one getting the benefit when you say "He hit me first".
Also, you might consider getting some friends to help. Make sure they are aware of the situation, of course. Don't wanna trick them into a bad situation. They could either help move stuff so it goes quicker, or you could post somebody up the street as a lookout so you have advanced warning that he is coming and you wont be taken by suprise
daved931
10-12-2007, 09:11 AM
this is why i have my concealed handgun license
Ditto.
Thankfully I've never had to use my handgun for anything but target practice. I'm ready if the day ever comes though.
I have a t-shirt that reads, "The 2nd Amendment: America's Original Homeland Security."
daved931
10-12-2007, 09:14 AM
Are you in love with her?
And she is going to make you that guy, you now that? in 1year shes complaining to everybody in the world about you. She wants a guy that slams her to the ground and yells and her, she loves the drama. She was molested as a child and a world without drama is boring to her.
She wants him to find you and her moving, then there will be even more drama for her, its perfect.
F**** drama queen.
That sounds pretty accurate to me. A lot of women are like that. I've tried to help a couple in the past. It's sad, but true--some women actually like the abuse. Very few ever escape that cycle.
HahnB
10-12-2007, 09:38 AM
Don't bring a weapon, unless you fancy an extended stay in the joint with the big boys.
I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6:) In any case, he's right. If you're not licensed to carry a gun, don't bring one. If you pull a knife on him it could get you shot, and he'd be in his legal right to do it under the law.
Jorge Sanchez
10-12-2007, 10:21 AM
Long story short, I know a girl who was living in abusive circumstances. She left, but the owners of their shared house wouldn't let her get her stuff back. She called the cops and they escorted her to the house. I assume stuff like this is pretty standard procedure for them. She will likely be the one that needs to call, though.
diesel_dan
10-12-2007, 10:36 AM
You going to help isn't good at all. Best to stay away. I mean if he does see you helping her, he will probably assume you two "have" something for each other. Especially considering your past with him. That alone won't bring any good to your and her relationship. So even if he is level headed enough not to kill you at that point, it will probably happen sooner or later. If not, harassment surely will come. Sure, you can get a restraining order etc, but that will only fuel his fire even more.
So I think the question is: Is this girl worth your life?
On the other hand though, he may not show up, a neighbor might not tell him who was with her and you and her may go on to get married and live happily ever after.
Weigh the odds.
Guitar90
10-12-2007, 12:32 PM
So... erm... How's it gone? Or is it too early to tell?
Sending best wishes from England.
mrelwooddowd
10-12-2007, 03:54 PM
Are you in love with her?
And she is going to make you that guy, you know that? in 1year shes complaining to everybody in the world about you. She wants a guy that slams her to the ground and yells and her, she loves the drama. She was molested as a child and a world without drama is boring to her.
She wants him to find you and her moving, then there will be even more drama for her, its perfect.
F**** drama queen.
In your own language-barrier, pull no punches kinda way, you're a F'ing genius..
It's getting late dude... let us know
bjohnso
10-12-2007, 10:24 PM
I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6:) In any case, he's right. If you're not licensed to carry a gun, don't bring one. If you pull a knife on him it could get you shot, and he'd be in his legal right to do it under the law.
If I had to choose between the two, I would go into the ground, but since this is reality I choose neither (at least for now).
I don't think he'd be in his legal right to shoot you, but it wouldn't matter because you'd be dead either way.
Organichu
10-12-2007, 10:31 PM
I've got your back, dude.
Doobs
10-13-2007, 01:06 AM
Anyone else think he's bangin her?
you guys should all listen to Brawl here, cause he's right on. i don't give a **** what a study says or what kind of excuses they come up with, women that stay in abusive relationships are nothing but trouble. they're all ****ed in the head.
you better bet she has "issues" :birthday:
Genacide
10-13-2007, 08:28 AM
Anyone else think he's bangin her?
or murdered...
c'mon, Behemoth. what happened, bro? anything crazy go down?
Guitar90
10-13-2007, 12:32 PM
Hope the guy's just been busy today and not hurt...
bjohnso
10-13-2007, 04:43 PM
I guess they don't get internet access in county jail.
Behemoth
10-13-2007, 05:50 PM
haha funny **** the last couple posts. very little drama whatsoever. he didnt come home until later than expected and we were well past done.
he did however call the police as he wants her to return some of the furniture that he belives was partly his (which it isn't and she has either receipts or alibies from who she got it all from). She really left far more that she should have. From what I understand the police aren't going to do anything about that, he'll have to take it to civil court which would be absurd for the items he's claiming. He hasn't harrassed her to date and she is happy. I'm glad she chose to move out with this *******.
Behemoth
10-13-2007, 05:57 PM
Also, her name was on the lease. I didn't bring a weapon. No I don't love her. She's happy now without the drama (but I do hear ya Rock, and hope thats not the case. She's only been in this situation about a year hopefully she isn't that accustomed to it). She isn't stupid by any stretch, far more intelligent than me. And I've just been busy not hurt or in jail.
bjohnso
10-13-2007, 05:58 PM
Good to hear, man. I'll bet your glad that's over with.
BilltheButcher
10-13-2007, 06:49 PM
Also, her name was on the lease. I didn't bring a weapon. No I don't love her. She's happy now without the drama (but I do hear ya Rock, and hope thats not the case. She's only been in this situation about a year hopefully she isn't that accustomed to it). She isn't stupid by any stretch, far more intelligent than me. And I've just been busy not hurt or in jail.
You get ANY for your good deed?
Also keep eyes in the back of your head and does that guy have any clue where she may have gone?
Behemoth
10-13-2007, 07:52 PM
You get ANY for your good deed?
Also keep eyes in the back of your head and does that guy have any clue where she may have gone?
haha..
YES
no
diesel_dan
10-14-2007, 03:50 PM
Glad to hear everything went good man. Good deed you did... but just gotta watch it these days. Never know what's going to happen.
haha..
YES
no
good deal. at least she knew how to properly thank you for the hard work.
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