Why are there so many mixed thoughts on creatine?

[thormotox448]

As the title states i am curious of why there are so many mixed thoughts about creatine. Some people swear by it, while other think of it as the devil. It is just uneducated people making these statements? For example today in my health class my teacher said something along the lines of "Creatine is the worst thing you can put into your body. Its pretty much just a steroid." That just left me wondering how this lady even got into a college teaching system, but anyways let hear what your thoughts are.

[Cirino83]

your teacher is an idiot. here is an article i copied off of ALN's site.


Creatine monohydrate is the single most scientifically proven lean tissue and strength building supplement on the market. Unbiased studies have shown creatine monohydrate to increase both lean muscle mass and anaerobic strength. AtLarge's creatine monohydrate is made of the purest, finest quality, creatine available.

Creatine is a naturally occurring substance which can be found most predominantly in meats. If we ate enough of the right foods, we could be certain to consume a sufficient amount of creatine to achieve an ergogenic effect. The phrase "if we ate enough of the right kinds" is the key. It would be difficult to obtain the amount of creatine needed from our diet on a daily basis. It would require the consumption of 3 pounds of beef, 3 pounds of salmon, or 3 pounds of tuna! That is a lot of meat!
If you ate the beef, that is a lot of unhealthy fat as well. AtLarge's creatine monohydrate is a much simpler, healthier, cheaper method of obtaining the creatine you need.

"Creatine is not only an athletic supplement. Recent studies have indicated it may be a potent antioxidant."

Antioxidants are substances which protect other substances from the changes caused by oxidation. Antioxidants are thought to help keep the bodily damage caused by free radicals in check. Creatine has also been shown to increase the strength of patients with neuromuscular disease. It is truly a wonder supplement!

Creatine has also been proven to be safe, both in the short and long-term. Studies have shown that long-term creatine use does not impair renal (kidney) function in healthy adults who use it. It has been noted in the press that creatine can cause cramping. According to a study performed with division 1A football players by the University of Memphis, creatine does not lead to cramping. As noted above, creatine is the most studied sports supplement ever; there is a literal mountain of scientific studies which prove it safe and effective.

"Creatine's proven ability to increase strength and lean muscle mass also makes it an effective body fat reduction supplement!"

Lean muscle mass is a physiologically "expensive" tissue. It requires a lot of calories to maintain. Thus, someone looking to permanently decrease their body fat levels should increase their lean muscle mass. Increased muscle mass equates to an increased BMR (the number of calories you burn with no physical activity), which equals a decrease in body fat with no reduction in calories consumed. For women, we are not suggesting you become a bodybuilder, merely that the addition of only a few shapely pounds of muscle will greatly enhance your ability to reduce body fat. Creatine can and will help you do that.

If your physical goals include increased lean muscle tissue, strength and performance, AtLarge's creatine monohydrate is the supplement for you!

[Stray]

It's found naturally in foods such as meats.

I blame ignorance.

If it was anywhere near anabolic as a steroid I'd be sprinkling it on everything I ate.

[thormotox448]

that was a good read...i'm still working on my batch of creatine from ATL and it has been really beneficial to me. i guess it just makes me wonder how in society there is such a misconception if there has been so many studies done to show that it is fine to take

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Your teacher is a crackhead.

Even the dictionary knows better than your teacher.

": a white crystalline nitrogenous substance C4H9N3O2 found especially in the muscles of vertebrates either free or as phosphocreatine; also : a synthetic usually hydrated form of creatine taken especially as a dietary supplement"

Your teacher probably wouldn't even be able to tell you what defines something as a "steroid" either. Not all "steroids" are what people think they are.


You would think as a teacher that she'd do a little more research on something before spouting it off to hundreds of kids. It's her job to "teach". If she can't even properly do that, then what is she doing?

[mikey4402]

ignorance is why. If your teacher doesnt even know what creatine is then she shouldnt be allowed to comment on it.



Creatine monohydrate is the single most scientifically proven lean tissue and strength building supplement on the market. Unbiased studies have shown creatine monohydrate to increase both lean muscle mass and anaerobic strength. AtLarge's creatine monohydrate is made of the purest, finest quality, creatine available.


If your physical goals include increased lean muscle tissue, strength and performance, AtLarge's creatine monohydrate is the supplement for you!

are you being payed by atlarge now? Prove to be that atlarge's creatine is any better then other creatines on the market.


edit: whoops i missed the part where you copied and pasted the artical

[dscarth]

are you being payed by atlarge now? Prove to be that atlarge's creatine is any better then other creatines on the market.

If you're gonna knock an ALN product, how about the multi :P.

AtLarge Creatine 500 is Creapure (http://www.creapure.com/), which is undoubtedly the best creatine monohydrate available. So, its the best, but the same as any other bottle with the creapure logo.

And creatine mono > creatine ester ...

[jdeity]

damn I wish I had a teacher try to tell me that. You have an awesome opportunity to study creatine, know exactly what you're talking about, and embarrass the hell out of her next time she tries saying that. Just have her state any claim she wants and shoot it down, damn I wish I was in your position :)

[RedSpikeyThing]

Creatine:
http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu/metabolomics/standards/creatine/lit/3594.png

Testosterone:
http://www.worldofmolecules.com/emotions/Testosterone.png

Now I'm no scientist, but I don't see that many similarities. BTW, ask her for her references, I'm curious what kinda **** she'll give you.

[mikey4402]

damn I wish I had a teacher try to tell me that. You have an awesome opportunity to study creatine, know exactly what you're talking about, and embarrass the hell out of her next time she tries saying that. Just have her state any claim she wants and shoot it down, damn I wish I was in your position :)

i have been hoping for one of my profs. to bring up anything about creatine being realated to steriods.:clown:

[jdeity]

I used to get quasi-good situations like that, but it was when I sold the stuff and I'd encounter someone who thought they knew a ton and presumed I didn't know anything. Those were always fun, but it'd be like shooting fish in a barrel. At least with a teacher it'd be faaaaar more fun to go to town on that debate! "So, if it's practically a steroid, will I need PCT wit mah creatinz?"

[charliebigspuds]

since we are on the sudject of creatine has any boby found that there kindeys hurt when they are on it.
ive tried it twice for about a week and both time my kidneys have screamed at me to stop.
could it be cheap @~#+ or is it just me..lol..
answers on a post card plz..lol

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

How on earth do you feel your kidneys hurting? Go see a doc.

[jdeity]

lol scarz I may've written that verbatim had you not beat me to it!

[VikingWarlord]

Now I'm no scientist, but I don't see that many similarities. BTW, ask her for her references, I'm curious what kinda **** she'll give you.

What will she give him? An F, most likely.

College professors don't like to be proven wrong by students. If you must confront, do it privately during office hours.

[RedSpikeyThing]

What will she give him? An F, most likely.

College professors don't like to be proven wrong by students. If you must confront, do it privately during office hours.

psh, if she's knows his name :rolleyes:
Also, just because you're asking for references doesn't mean you have to be an ******* about it. "You metnioned in lecture that creatine is 'as bad as steroids'. I'm currently using creatine and wondering if you had any references showing the side effects."

[VikingWarlord]

psh, if she's knows his name :rolleyes:
Also, just because you're asking for references doesn't mean you have to be an ******* about it. "You metnioned in lecture that creatine is 'as bad as steroids'. I'm currently using creatine and wondering if you had any references showing the side effects."

True, the approach is important. Challenging is good as long as it's done in the right way. I guess my point was that you almost never want to do it in class.

[jdeity]

It depends tho - I mean, to be honest, I would haha! Then again I wasn't crazy concerned about my grades, so any potential bias she could show to me wouldn't really bug me. It's not like she could start grading A work as solid B's or C's w/o risking her credibility. If she started giving him unfair grades he could just go to the dept head and say exactly what happened and they'd review the work/grades and see if there was a revenge thing going on.