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oxo
02-18-2008, 06:07 PM
hi all this is my 1st thread so be nice
this is a vid of my 1st 500lb squat but i cant tell if its deep enuf for ipf i just want you opinion
thx

watch?v=OtxV8ZG1l-o
it wont lite me post the link so use this

deeder
02-18-2008, 06:08 PM
There you go:

OtxV8ZG1l-o

deeder
02-18-2008, 06:10 PM
I'd say you're still about 2 inches high.

Edit:

After looking again, you're quite high. You really need to work on sinking them.

Ben Moore
02-18-2008, 06:28 PM
That camera angle is decieving and your partners hand in the way doesn't help. I don't think it was that high, but it does need to be lower.

Deeder, pause it in the bottom and take a look. Does it look that high?

deeder
02-18-2008, 06:43 PM
That camera angle is decieving and your partners hand in the way doesn't help. I don't think it was that high, but it does need to be lower.

Deeder, pause it in the bottom and take a look. Does it look that high?

That's what I did. For an IPF competition, yes, it looks high.

minotaur70
02-18-2008, 07:25 PM
agreed, I'm an ipf referee, that looks a couple of inches high to me.

oxo
02-18-2008, 07:27 PM
ya thx guys i thought it mite be high its one of my 1st times useing a squat siut so its hard to get down
thx anyway

Sensei
02-18-2008, 08:04 PM
Looks pretty damn close to me.

Chubrock
02-18-2008, 08:16 PM
Haha I was about to say, that'd pass in the APF.

deeder
02-18-2008, 08:42 PM
Looks pretty damn close to me.


Haha I was about to say, that'd pass in the APF.

The IPF has very strict judging. Wait, let me rephrase that. We follow the rules that we have written in our rulebooks unlike many other federations.

From what I can see this is what seems to be the lowest point of his squat.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e367/deeder1986/Screenshot.jpg

The spotters hands are in the way but it's clear that he's still far from break parrallel according to this rule:

1. Upon receiving the Chief Referee’s signal the lifter must bend the knees and lower the body until the top surface of the legs at the hip joint is lower than the top of the knees.

Here's a picture from the rulebook showing what is required for bar placement and squat depth:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e367/deeder1986/squatpic.jpg

Travis Bell
02-18-2008, 08:54 PM
I'm gonna go with Ben on this one, it was high but not waaay high. You just need to learn how to drop your butt in the hole, dip it down real quick and then go back up. If you descend quicker it'll help

Lones Green
02-19-2008, 03:52 AM
yup, just a few inches. sit back a bit...but dont lean forward anymore than you have to.

90kg_pwrlftr
02-19-2008, 06:22 AM
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii244/90kgpwrlftr/squat.jpg

a little high (as others have said)

BPM Osgood
02-19-2008, 07:08 AM
I'm gonna go with Ben on this one, it was high but not waaay high. You just need to learn how to drop your butt in the hole, dip it down real quick and then go back up. If you descend quicker it'll help

Im with these guys!

RickTheDestroyer
02-19-2008, 07:09 AM
Part of the issue with discussing height here is that you're not looking at it from a perfect horizontal angle, if his knees and hip joint lined up perfectly from this angle then he'd be a bit below parallel because we're looking down on it from above. If the camera were set at knee level, I don't think it'd be as far off as people are thinking. I don't know **** about the IPF so I can't say there, but in terms of the hip crease being below the knee it's probably only an inch or two high.

Ben Moore
02-19-2008, 10:22 AM
Rick that's what I was thinking.

RickTheDestroyer
02-19-2008, 11:58 AM
Rick that's what I was thinking.
Yeah man- you were dead-on with the camera angle comment. I just figured I'd go back to that since people seemed to have missed it. Great minds and whatnot. :)

Sensei
02-19-2008, 12:26 PM
The IPF has very strict judging. Wait, let me rephrase that. We follow the rules that we have written in our rulebooks unlike many other federations.

From what I can see this is what seems to be the lowest point of his squat. You don't have to get all anal about it Deeder. I'm very clear on powerlifting rules APF or IPF. I'm not going to take time to cut and paste images, but when I pause the video at the lowest point, I see something a little lower than the image you have in your post.

Indifference
02-19-2008, 05:02 PM
the height of the camera is robbing you of inches here, if the camera was knee level you'd be very close

Kiaran
02-19-2008, 11:41 PM
a few inches high or not, nice squat, man.

Fuzzy
02-20-2008, 12:28 AM
Wee bit high but who cares!

oxo
02-21-2008, 04:25 PM
thx every1 youv all been a lot of help

Klotz
02-21-2008, 05:04 PM
It's high, but the important thing is that you know it's high so you can work on depth.

joey54
02-21-2008, 06:08 PM
yeah, no doubt you will still make the lift if you go the little bit deeper that is necessary. looking strong man, keep it up.

Bako Lifter
02-21-2008, 06:26 PM
Looks like about 8-12 people who squat 500+ responded to this thread, damn!

Sidior
02-21-2008, 06:29 PM
The IPF has very strict judging. Wait, let me rephrase that. We follow the rules that we have written in our rulebooks unlike many other federations.

From what I can see this is what seems to be the lowest point of his squat.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e367/deeder1986/Screenshot.jpg

The spotters hands are in the way but it's clear that he's still far from break parrallel according to this rule:

1. Upon receiving the Chief Referee’s signal the lifter must bend the knees and lower the body until the top surface of the legs at the hip joint is lower than the top of the knees.

Here's a picture from the rulebook showing what is required for bar placement and squat depth:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e367/deeder1986/squatpic.jpg

Was it necessary to preach your love of the IPF in this thread?

RhodeHouse
02-21-2008, 08:03 PM
Wear double-ply gear and squat high in the IPA or APF. Why work harder than you have to? Besides, the IPF rules are ridiculous. If anyone saw Brian Siders' 1003 squat, it ridiculous that it wasn't passed.

I will say the APF/IPA are getting much better. I was also very impressed with the SSA's judging this past weekend. The IPF/USAPL guys will complain, but I don't care about them.

minotaur70
02-21-2008, 08:18 PM
Was it necessary to preach your love of the IPF in this thread?

lol, thats gold

I agree with Rhodes- if you aren't in love with the IPF go with another fed and you are there already