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Repllica
02-24-2008, 10:52 PM
I currently play on an unnamed D-I college football team and will be transfering schools next year. I've put a lot of thought into it and am 100% in on taking steroids during my off period between schools. I'm currently 5'10 195. I'm trying to get as strong as possible without putting too much weight on. A friend of mine suggested Anavar and i've read into it and its just so expensive. So i'm just trying to get some opinions as to what will be my best options to take for not putting much weight on as well as best options for athletic training and speed. Thanks a lot.
Jordanbcool
02-25-2008, 11:13 AM
Why would you ever "not want to put much weight on" when playing football. That is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life especially since using steroids will put on quality muscle if everything is in order. You can work on your performance and strength naturally right now, its not that hard at all.
Repllica
02-25-2008, 11:30 AM
It's actually very simple why i do not want to put on much weight. Seeing is how you know so much about football you would also know that speed not size is the number one factor on how you play.(ever hear "speed kills"?? not size but good try) The number one commedety at my position is non other than speed. I have absolutley no reason to be more than 200. It doesn't matter how big you are if you can't run away from people in this game. But you already knew that. And i know i can work on it naturally but we all hit plateaus and need something to push you through as in my case.
not putting on weight will depend on your diet, not your drug selection. why is it that nobody seems to understand this? true, you may gain more water on weight while using some compounds, but it'll all come off when you go off cycle.
so to answer your question, use whatever you want and keep your diet in check if you don't want a lot of weight gain. if you're looking for some big strength increases try stacking some test and tren. you could even run tren alone if you're looking to avoid any and all bloat from water retention. just watch out for the limp dick.
Slim Schaedle
02-25-2008, 02:03 PM
Why would you ever "not want to put much weight on" when playing football. That is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life especially since using steroids will put on quality muscle if everything is in order. You can work on your performance and strength naturally right now, its not that hard at all.
Jordan, I have never even played football and I know the answer to that.
Some athletes purposely lose weight in order to improve their playing ability.
Jordanbcool
02-25-2008, 03:46 PM
But just because you are big does not mean you are slow. Sure, many athletes want to improve their power/weight ratio but being only 5'10 and 195 I would want to put on some more weight just so I don't get creamed if I got tackled. I guess I kinda came off as a jerk off..... Anyways, thats beside the point I guess. You need to send us some more information though so we can help you more with advice on a cycle.
Also there are many different factors when considering athletic ability, speed, strength, size, agility, hand/eye coordination etc. all come into play.
But just because you are big does not mean you are slow. Sure, many athletes want to improve their power/weight ratio but being only 5'10 and 195 I would want to put on some more weight just so I don't get creamed if I got tackled. I guess I kinda came off as a jerk off..... Anyways, thats beside the point I guess. You need to send us some more information though so we can help you more with advice on a cycle.
Also there are many different factors when considering athletic ability, speed, strength, size, agility, hand/eye coordination etc. all come into play.
5'10" 195 is plenty big for a lot of positions. he didn't tell us what position he plays, jordan. and yes, you will be slower with any siginificant amount of weight gain.
Slim Schaedle
02-25-2008, 06:33 PM
5'10" 195 is plenty big for a lot of positions.
I was going to add this as well.
I've seen some good D1 players at 10 pounds less than that.
method115
02-25-2008, 06:55 PM
Sounds to me like just test would be perfect for you. Cheap and good gains (with proper diet of course). You will gain water weight but that will come off with the cycle.
jAy_Dub
02-25-2008, 07:06 PM
I'd go with what RBB suggested. Test and Tren will give you some major gains strength wise.
HahnB
02-25-2008, 08:04 PM
I currently play on an unnamed D-I college football team and will be transfering schools next year. I've put a lot of thought into it and am 100% in on taking steroids during my off period between schools. I'm currently 5'10 195. I'm trying to get as strong as possible without putting too much weight on. A friend of mine suggested Anavar and i've read into it and its just so expensive. So i'm just trying to get some opinions as to what will be my best options to take for not putting much weight on as well as best options for athletic training and speed. Thanks a lot.
In my opinion, there's no point in taking drugs for strength if you're not going to continue to use them during the season. It's not as though you shoot up a gram of test a week for a few months and you're permanently as strong for the rest of your life as you were on 1000mg of testosterone. I would actually advise against this. I don't care what anyone says, you will be significantly stronger on the cycle than you will afterwards, and it's gonna be pretty depressing when football season comes back around and you're losing numbers in the gym. Just my .02
If you want to put on size, that's another animal.
In my opinion, there's no point in taking drugs for strength if you're not going to continue to use them during the season. It's not as though you shoot up a gram of test a week for a few months and you're permanently as strong for the rest of your life as you were on 1000mg of testosterone. I would actually advise against this. I don't care what anyone says, you will be significantly stronger on the cycle than you will afterwards, and it's gonna be pretty depressing when football season comes back around and you're losing numbers in the gym. Just my .02
If you want to put on size, that's another animal.
hahn's got a very good point here. if you run a cycle and gain virtually no weight, then you can say goodbye to almost any strength gains you make when you come off.
Hatred
02-27-2008, 05:41 PM
Or you can put on the size and then cut the fat off making you more efficient.
More muscle,less fat,same weight= faster. Might be heavier for awhile but your diet is going to have to be 100% or you are wasting your time.
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