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vdizenzo
05-12-2008, 07:48 PM
Alright, after trying to hide it for the past few years I have to get something off my chest--I'm a bench specialist. I have been squatting, deadlifting, and training strongman for the past couple of years. Let's see what this has done for me. Log pressing strangulated my hernia causing an unpleasant operation. Deadlifting caused a complete bicep rupture causing another unpleasant operation. Deadlifting an axle recently caused a partial bicep tear of my non repaired arm. I pulled my groin squatting a few weeks ago only to do it again this past weekend. There was quite an angry pop when I was in the hole. I will be paying for this one for a while.

Interestingly I have never hurt myself benching. Here's the new plan. Box squats only for reps. Deadlifting with a trap bar so I don't have to supinate. Learn the new shirts and make my mark in the bench world again (I have already had a good start at that thanks to advice from Rob Luyando).

My apologies to those of you who were hoping for something else when reading the title of this thread.

Jason Pegg
05-12-2008, 08:06 PM
Congratulations big man. Admitting you have a problem is the first step. :D

Jason

Travis Bell
05-12-2008, 08:17 PM
geesh, I kinda hesitated to open this thread after the title.....hahaha

Good plan on the training Vin, I think your a 900+ bencher in the waiting.

kingkong51
05-12-2008, 08:32 PM
LOL I know what u mean Travis

bencher8
05-12-2008, 08:39 PM
Thanks Vinnie.....now I think I can come out too!

Hello...my name is Paul Key...and I am a bench specialist....:thumbup:

I decided to start pulling and squatting(just a little) in my training after noticing that most of the top benchers train their squat and pull too. They may not compete in it, but they sure train them.

I say that you should only use ssb when squatting too...do hatfield squats, box squats with the ssb. Trap bar pulls, and also just pull overhand if u have too...

chris mason
05-12-2008, 11:01 PM
I agree, I think 900+ is definitely in the cards for Vin.

Buffman
05-13-2008, 01:59 AM
Alright, after trying to hide it for the past few years I have to get something off my chest--I'm a bench specialist. I have been squatting, deadlifting, and training strongman for the past couple of years. Let's see what this has done for me. Log pressing strangulated my hernia causing an unpleasant operation. Deadlifting caused a complete bicep rupture causing another unpleasant operation. Deadlifting an axle recently caused a partial bicep tear of my non repaired arm. I pulled my groin squatting a few weeks ago only to do it again this past weekend. There was quite an angry pop when I was in the hole. I will be paying for this one for a while.

Interestingly I have never hurt myself benching. Here's the new plan. Box squats only for reps. Deadlifting with a trap bar so I don't have to supinate. Learn the new shirts and make my mark in the bench world again (I have already had a good start at that thanks to advice from Rob Luyando).

My apologies to those of you who were hoping for something else when reading the title of this thread.



Great postt vinnie

I have had similiar problems with Squatting and Deadlifting.
Just not quite as extreme.
That is why I only compete in the Bench now.

I totally understand where you are coming from.

vdizenzo
05-13-2008, 06:00 AM
Thanks guys. Oh yeah, I forgot to thank my life--um--I mean my training partner Matt Rhodes for standing by me through this difficult time.

Bob
05-13-2008, 07:27 AM
GL Vinnie...
Does this mean you are not going to do that upcoming strongman comp. you were training for?

Is this an official retirement from full PL and strongman?

Guido
05-13-2008, 07:34 AM
At least you are not in denial.

Rob Luyando
05-13-2008, 07:40 AM
Wow now Vin hold on just a second. If you want to come out of the closet that is cool and all but don't throw my name in the mix thanking me! LOL!

I am a bench only guy for one reason and one reason only. When I started my addiction there was no one around my area that I knew of that squated and pulled so I stuck with benching because everyone can bench right? But after doing it for so long I have really limited my range of motion so me getting under a squat bar in next to impossible.

I love to squat so I purchased a Melitia Lift and a Safety Squat bar from Westside Barbell and can now enjoy squating with out putting any undeeded stress on my shoulders. I mainly do box squating. What other exercise can you do and get to sit down and relax for a second?

As for pulling I even made a deadlift platform nad have two jacks. I try to do the majority of my sets with double overhand grip to avoid straining my biceps.

I know all you full power guys are thinking WTF? But if you want to have a big bench you have to train your whole body leg drive and back strength are critical to a big bench. Not that i would know anything about that.

NASAKYCHAIRMAN
05-13-2008, 07:53 AM
Great post Vinne!

TRAIN HARD

"BIG WILLIE" J.T. HALL
GOT MAXIMUM MASS STACK?

Travis Bell
05-13-2008, 07:59 AM
Im with Rob here, I train the squat and dead as well. I think its good to be a overall lifter. I believe the stronger your core is the more stable you'll be on the bench. I just don't train my squat and dead with the same intensity as I do my bench

Rob Luyando
05-13-2008, 09:44 AM
Im with Rob here, I train the squat and dead as well. I think its good to be a overall lifter. I believe the stronger your core is the more stable you'll be on the bench. I just don't train my squat and dead with the same intensity as I do my bench

That is where you are messing up! You should train every exercise with the same amount of intesity. If you want a bigger bench you have to bust your ass on all the other lifts for it to pay off. Your heart will always favor your favorite lift but as for insensity you have to give it 110% on everything you do to suceed.

Travis Bell
05-13-2008, 09:57 AM
haha you're exactly right Rob, what I meant was I don't squat twice a week, nor do I wear gear for my squatting. Only reason being is I want my CNS as refreshed as possible for benching, there is no reason for myself to be wearing squat gear.

Intensity was the wrong word choice. I think I was still a little confused by the vague references by Vin between him and Rhodes hahaha

Rob Luyando
05-13-2008, 10:23 AM
I will wear briefs when I squat and pull from time to time. The heavier weight I can handle the stonger I become all around. Its all about shocking the cns overe and over again.

RhodeHouse
05-13-2008, 10:27 AM
Vincent would be standing, or sitting, on the side of a bridge, sucking his thumb and questioning his manhood and strength, if it wasn't for me. I am the glue that holds his fragile little (by little I mean gingundous) head together. Without my support and wisdom, he would be lost in the strength world, looking to prove himself in ways that are unnecesary. Strongman, Vincent? You and I both know you don't have to be strong to be good. Hell, I qualified for Nationals in my first contest after training for it for 8 weeks. That's no way to prove that you're strong. Squatting and pulling? That's just plain stupid. Haven't you learned anything from me, over the years? I have said over and over that squatting and pulling suck donkey balls.

Squatting - it's what you do before you bench.
Deadlifting - it's what you do before you eat.

Guys, I'm sorry you had to bear witness to Vincent's internet meltdown. In fact, he has been out of the closet for quite sometime. The fact is, he could never fit in the closet, to actually come out.

WE LOVE YOU, VINCENT! We're all behind you, but not in the way you're hoping for.

PriestCometh
05-13-2008, 02:25 PM
Damn it, I thought this was gonna be a funny a$$ thread!

bigbadwolfe
05-13-2008, 07:35 PM
I will wear briefs when I squat and pull from time to time. The heavier weight I can handle the stonger I become all around. Its all about shocking the cns overe and over again.

Like Tighty Whitey ones you were wearing in the pic of you shaving that McVicar took? Do those offer good support :)

bigbadwolfe
05-13-2008, 07:38 PM
Yeah Vin before I opened this I went and made room in my guest room for your wife. Figured you two were done and she would need a place to umm sleep :) But then when I opened this I just realized you were just admitting that you were a bench fag.

Well Damn tell us something we did'nt know :)

jtteg_x
05-14-2008, 02:13 AM
you sure got me. sucks to hear about the injuries but its great to hear your still training every part of your body. for awhile i couldn't squat/deadlift...i went out and bought a pulling harness.

theres another thing you need to get off your chest: IRON :strong:

Rob Luyando
05-14-2008, 07:23 AM
Like Tighty Whitey ones you were wearing in the pic of you shaving that McVicar took? Do those offer good support :)

LOL! I had a feeling that was coming!

Guido
05-14-2008, 08:36 AM
Damn it, I thought this was gonna be a funny a$$ thread!


Like Tighty Whitey ones you were wearing in the pic of you shaving that McVicar took? Do those offer good support

That's better. :)

StrongAsHell
05-14-2008, 09:16 AM
I can sympathize. My bench never messed me up, always felt tight and strong. I began training strongman over a year ago and as my overhead goes up, my bench feels like crap. I have also just about tore every underused muscle in my body. I wish I could admit defeat but Im to young and dumb.

Good luck with 900!

thewicked
05-15-2008, 11:40 AM
there goes another one!

if i hate squatting what's that make me?


you guys say pussy i'll plead the fifth! :D