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SGT ROCK
05-14-2008, 09:21 PM
Ok..this one deserves its own thread, lets try and narrow this one down to THREE lifters each division. 114-181, 198-242 and 242 to SHW!

LT JOE BRADLEY....if you do NOT know who this is....you need to! FIRST MAN TO EVER DO TRIPLE BODYWEIGHT...and did it MINUS THE SHIRT

Mike Bridges...his 523 was done with no shirt

Kerwin Unten and Ed Morishima...ok thats four lol...two guys I respect very much.


Mwt: MIKE MCDONALD....held the ALL TIME WR in 4 classes at the SAME TIME.

Rob Luyando....good in these classes, not a bit arrogant, great shirt technician, clean lifts

Larry Pacifico...I accidentally left him off my 3 lift list. Anytime a 3 lift guy can break a WR bench as well deserves much respect. His raw lifts would still make the top five even now.


HWT: Ted Arcidi...if you saw his 705 in Hawaii you would know why

Kennelly....very modest and a great lifter with a great physique

Kaz Again, 3 lift guy with a great bench. Had he not tore his pec what could he have done?

LOTS of room for arguement here, whats your list?

Semper Fi

Travis Bell
05-14-2008, 10:47 PM
Rob Luyando - arguably Mr. Consistent right here, only one that could contend with him on that title would be Kennelly, plus he holds more All Time WRs in different weight classes than anyone currently if Im not mistaken

Ryan Kennelly - put shirted benching beyond what we all thought was possible. I love watching him bench

Ted Arcidi - extremely impressive bencher. One of my old school favorites

Mike McDonald - pretty sure he's still got the all time 220 or 242 wr raw bench

I'll give a nod to Gene Rychlak. Not the best of all time, but deserves respect for being the first to hit 900 and then 1000 in comp.

And then George Halbert round out my list. George has been through alot of different weight classes and is now starting his reign all over again.

SGT ROCK
05-14-2008, 11:14 PM
Travis,
I always enjoy reading your responses brother, you are much like I would be if I had the priviledge to train at WSB, a sponge...and willing to share your knowledge, for that we all thank you!

GEORGE HALBERT...dang how did I forget? I have never hid the fact he is a HERO of mine, a true inspiration. A pure beast on the platform and a true gentleman off it. PLEASE tell him hello for me!!!

Semper Fi

NASAKYCHAIRMAN
05-15-2008, 05:40 AM
Bench press
Heavy weight: Ryan Kennelly, James Henderson, Scott Mendelson, Ted Arcidi

Middle weight: Rob Luyando, Mike Macdonald,George Halbert,Dennis Ceiri, Shawn Frankl

Light weight: Joe Mazza, Joe Ceklovsky, Markus Schick

TRAIN HARD

"BIG WILLIE" J.T. HALL
GOT MAXIMUM MASS STACK?
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David_HoffWSBB
05-15-2008, 06:11 AM
shawn Frankl 810 @ 198 in a full meet..... ouchie

bill
05-15-2008, 07:02 AM
I remember some of the old guys.
Ken Lain, Ted Arcidi, Anthony Clarke R.I.P all battling for #1

Ryano
05-15-2008, 08:12 AM
HW- Kennelly
MW- Luyando
LW- Frankl

At least two, if not all three of these guys will on the platform at the UPA Pro-Am in July.

SGT ROCK
05-15-2008, 09:01 AM
There I go again...I forgot my friend JOE MAZZA! My best friend BPM will be on this list very, very soon! Great responses guys...a wealth of knowledge on this board! Keep the posts coming!!!

Semper Fi

SGT ROCK
05-15-2008, 09:02 AM
shawn Frankl 810 @ 198 in a full meet..... ouchie

A VERY good bencher! That gym has some of the BEST lifters today!!

Semper Fi

Rob Luyando
05-15-2008, 09:15 AM
Since we are talking all time.
Light weight : George Halbert, Joe Mazza, Brad Heck, Sean Frankl, Jeff McVicar
Middle Weight : Ken Lain, Kenny Patterson, Brad Hein, John Zemmin
Heavy Weight :Ryan Kennelly, Anthony Clark (RIP), Gene Ryachlek

I made my picks based on how long the guys have been in the sport and what a dominating focrce they have been during there time. If I had to pick just 1 bencher it would be a toss up between George Halbert and Ryan Kennelly both guys have been in the game a long time kicking ass and taking numbers as they go.

Then theres me. I have a lot of unfinished business to put myself amongst the greatest of all time.

Bill Carpenter
05-15-2008, 09:37 AM
This is a hard one.

Lightweight - Halbert, Frankl, Heck, Mazza, Coker
Middleweight - Halbert, Luyando, Briggs (HUGE FUTURE - THIS KID IS STRONG!!), Mike McDonald. Halbert and Luyando are both strong Raw or shirted. I like to see that.
Heavyweight - This is easy Ryan Kennelly shirt or not the guy is a true freak of nature.

Bill Carpenter
05-15-2008, 09:39 AM
Since we are talking all time.
Light weight : George Halbert, Joe Mazza, Brad Heck, Sean Frankl, Jeff McVicar
Middle Weight : Ken Lain, Kenny Patterson, Brad Hein, John Zemmin
Heavy Weight :Ryan Kennelly, Anthony Clark (RIP), Gene Ryachlek

I made my picks based on how long the guys have been in the sport and what a dominating focrce they have been during there time. If I had to pick just 1 bencher it would be a toss up between George Halbert and Ryan Kennelly both guys have been in the game a long time kicking ass and taking numbers as they go.

Then theres me. I have a lot of unfinished business to put myself amongst the greatest of all time.

Pssh! I broke that Kenny Patterson guys record 3 times. And I broke Chris Confessore's all time 242 record that stood for many years. LOL! Who is Kenny? LOL!

dbcb314
05-15-2008, 10:17 AM
I don't see how everyone is leaving mendy off the SHW list. At one point he had the raw and the geared WR's... and hes raw wr no one has come close to still

NASAKYCHAIRMAN
05-15-2008, 11:16 AM
I remember some of the old guys.
Ken Lain, Ted Arcidi, Anthony Clarke R.I.P all battling for #1

Anthony Clarke is a legend:strong: I wish that I could have got a chance to meet or talk to him.

TRAIN HARD

"BIG WILLIE" J.T. HALL
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PriestCometh
05-15-2008, 12:13 PM
Lightweight - Frankl, Heck, Mazza
Middleweight - Halbert, Luyando
Heavyweight - Ryan Kennelly, Mendy, Rychlack(I would like to see these 3 go head to head sometime within the next couple of years). Wouldnt it be cool to see this happen with the 3 biggest benchers? I know Ryan and Scot would be onboard to do this. I have talked to them about doing this. It could happen when Big Gene heals up.

Travis Bell
05-15-2008, 12:25 PM
Ryan and Scot already went head to head in the Ukraine didn't they?

kingkong51
05-15-2008, 03:06 PM
Kaz,Mendy raw bencher ,Luyando,and Kennelly Shirted Beast

Guido
05-15-2008, 03:18 PM
Definitely Kaz, Mendy, and Nick Winters if we are talking raw.

Shirted, I'd have Kennelly, Mendy, Rychlak, Unten, and I'll throw Roger Ryan in there as the strongest bencher over 50.

Rob Luyando
05-15-2008, 04:32 PM
Pssh! I broke that Kenny Patterson guys record 3 times. And I broke Chris Confessore's all time 242 record that stood for many years. LOL! Who is Kenny? LOL!


I intentionally left you off of this list for one reason and one reason only. Because I can. LOL! Seriously Bill ranks right up there with my picks but until he gets back in the saddle i'm not voting for him.:evillaugh:

Rob Luyando
05-15-2008, 04:38 PM
I don't see how everyone is leaving mendy off the SHW list. At one point he had the raw and the geared WR's... and hes raw wr no one has come close to still

Mendy is left off the list by a lot of lifters for probably the same reason. He is cock strong no doubt 715 raw bench speaks for himself. But when you talk the best you have to look at successful atempts in meets.

Me and Mendy don't always see eye to eye but he is strong no doubt. Just think if he had someone to coach him the numbers he could hit. Behind every acomplished lifter there is either a great coach or training partner in the background busting your ass the whole way.

Bill Carpenter
05-15-2008, 06:52 PM
I intentionally left you off of this list for one reason and one reason only. Because I can. LOL! Seriously Bill ranks right up there with my picks but until he gets back in the saddle i'm not voting for him.:evillaugh:

I knew what you were doing. I just had to throw my 2 seconds of fame in there. LOL!

You might see me do a meet in the fall but right now I am enjoying the BB style right now. Easy on the joints.

vdizenzo
05-15-2008, 07:33 PM
Many moons ago I took the 275 record from a couple of guys you might have heard of, Ryan Kennelly and Bill Crawford. Yeah, then some prick named Andy Fiedler took it away from me. The filthy animal. I liked Andy. He was a freak. We used to talk. After he did his BB show he just up and disappeared.

I'm heading back to the 275's. I hear a pretty good guy holds that world record now. I'll just be happy to hit anything over 800. I have not put up an equipped bench in over three years.

My picks are Ryan and Rob. They have the biggest lifts and even more impressive is that they are consistent. Can't ask for more than that.

chris mason
05-15-2008, 08:05 PM
Let's go really old school and talk about Doug Hepburn.

We can then mention Pat Casey who did over 600 lbs raw UNRACKING THE WEIGHT HIMSELF and with a long pause.

The BIG Jim Williams who did a raw 675 lbs way back in the 70s and supposedly hit 700+ in training.

James Henderson also has to be considered.

Beyond the above, I agree with all of the other names mentioned above.

Rob, I think you are truly one of the all-time greats with what you are doing.

Bill, I didn't know you were that good. What are your bests?

bencher8
05-15-2008, 08:15 PM
"Bill, I didn't know you were that good. What are your bests?"

hahahaha....it comes back on bill..he asked me a question like that a while back..

"Old Balls Bill" is a pretty good bencher...been around a while. His 744@242 was a record...he has done 800@275 too ...I think he was 275 when he did it...I know he did 800 anyway

Bill Carpenter
05-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Bill, I didn't know you were that good. What are your bests?

Chris,
I held the record in the 242 class with -
702, 722, 723, and 744. My best lift is a 800 at 253 bodyweight last year at Bill Crawfords meet.

I competed in the 220 class for a long time in my teens and early 20's. Had a few records then too and few national and world titles. Now I would be happy to have a good training cycle with out pain in my body. LOL! I guess 18 years of competing makes the body rust out. LOL!

Here is some videos from Crawford's meet.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/Billypress/th_4-14-07NYBills800.jpg (http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/Billypress/?action=view&current=4-14-07NYBills800.flv)
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/Billypress/th_4-14-07NYBill760.jpg (http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/Billypress/?action=view&current=4-14-07NYBill760.flv)

bencher8
05-15-2008, 09:05 PM
jeeez...he just ignores my comment...I cant have fun at your expense if you ignore me Bill!

Bill Carpenter
05-15-2008, 09:10 PM
jeeez...he just ignores my comment...I cant have fun at your expense if you ignore me Bill!

Ok. You got me Paul. I have old balls. LOL! 35 is not to old. How old are you again? :moon:

chris mason
05-15-2008, 09:20 PM
Chris,
I held the record in the 242 class with -
702, 722, 723, and 744. My best lift is a 800 at 253 bodyweight last year at Bill Crawfords meet.

I competed in the 220 class for a long time in my teens and early 20's. Had a few records then too and few national and world titles. Now I would be happy to have a good training cycle with out pain in my body. LOL! I guess 18 years of competing makes the body rust out. LOL!

Here is some videos from Crawford's meet.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/Billypress/th_4-14-07NYBills800.jpg (http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/Billypress/?action=view&current=4-14-07NYBills800.flv)
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/Billypress/th_4-14-07NYBill760.jpg (http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/Billypress/?action=view&current=4-14-07NYBill760.flv)


Great stuff Bill!

Lol, we need to get you a new camera girl. Methinks she is too emotionally invested :) .

Bill Carpenter
05-15-2008, 09:35 PM
Yeah, the wife got a little to excited. lol!

Rob Luyando
05-16-2008, 07:14 AM
That is my favorite video! I love to watch it with my eyes closed! Better than any porn. LOL!

Probably one of the most impressive feets that Bill has acomplished was at the 2005 Arnold Classic when he broke the world record hitting 744. Not only was that a huge lift a heado f its time at 242 but what is more impressive the shirt he wore at that meet got shipped to him the night before the meet. To put an Ultimate Denim on brand new and break it in, in the warm up room and then go out and hit an all time record with it is sick. Very few people have had great success with the Ultimate Dennim becuase it is one of the toughest shirt to learn and bench in. And Old Balls Bill did it his first time ever in that shirt.

PriestCometh
05-16-2008, 10:51 AM
That is my favorite video! I love to watch it with my eyes closed! Better than any porn. LOL!

Probably one of the most impressive feets that Bill has acomplished was at the 2005 Arnold Classic when he broke the world record hitting 744. Not only was that a huge lift a heado f its time at 242 but what is more impressive the shirt he wore at that meet got shipped to him the night before the meet. To put an Ultimate Denim on brand new and break it in, in the warm up room and then go out and hit an all time record with it is sick. Very few people have had great success with the Ultimate Dennim becuase it is one of the toughest shirt to learn and bench in. And Old Balls Bill did it his first time ever in that shirt.

That was cool to watch!

DrDudley-Robey
05-21-2008, 10:35 PM
My favorite lifts of all time are:

Joe Mazza's 633 bench at 165 3.83xBW, Brad Heck's 705 at 181 3.89xBW and Shawn Frankl's 810 bench at 198 and Joe Ceklovsky 600 bench at 148 both over 4xBW for the light weight's

Rob Luyando's 905 bench at 242 3.78xBW for the middle weight bench

Ryan Kennely's 1050 for the big guys bench

BPM Osgood
05-24-2008, 10:10 AM
didnt see (might have missed it) anyone through out Jason Fry in the Light Weights... 707@181!

bigbadwolfe
05-24-2008, 10:27 AM
Yeah Jay Fry should be right up there also, he has been busting his balls week in and week out!!!! I am so proud to call him a friend and a training partner!!!!

PriestCometh
05-27-2008, 12:29 PM
0 for 2

Guido
05-27-2008, 02:37 PM
I remember seeing Jason Fry benching 710 @ 180ish in the Animal Cage at this year's Arnold. Impressive. He has to be high up on anyone's list of great benchers.

DrDudley-Robey
05-28-2008, 03:37 PM
I remember seeing Jason Fry benching 710 @ 180ish in the Animal Cage at this year's Arnold. Impressive. He has to be high up on anyone's list of great benchers.

Jay is good people gut I doubt he was 180! lol

Rob Luyando
05-28-2008, 03:53 PM
Jay is good people gut I doubt he was 180! lol

He weighed in right at 181 by the rules of the Federation.

Travis Bell
05-28-2008, 04:19 PM
he wasn't 181 at the Arnold this year, but yes he was at the UPA nationals when he benched 707.

Rob Luyando
05-28-2008, 08:20 PM
The only lifts that count are the ones done at a meet. But Fry is still young so I am kicking him off this list.

DrDudley-Robey
05-28-2008, 08:36 PM
He weighed in right at 181 by the rules of the Federation.

He was not 181 at the Arnold - no way he is going to cut weight just for a demo - He does have the highest lift of all time in the 181 class which he hit at the UPA in april, it was a great lift - fast and clean.

Brad lifts this weekend at APF Senior nationals so we will see where the 181 record goes!

Rob Luyando
05-29-2008, 07:10 AM
[QUOTE=DrDudley-Robey;1936405]He was not 181 at the Arnold - no way he is going to cut weight just for a demo - He does have the highest lift of all time in the 181 class which he hit at the UPA in april, it was a great lift - fast and clean.

I miss read the post and thought you were talking about his World record lift. You spend to much time with Mendy giving credit to gym lifts and cage lifts. If the lift isn't completed in a meet it doesn't mean ****!

PriestCometh
05-29-2008, 11:37 AM
I agree, gym lifts dont mean sh%t.

shredder
06-15-2008, 01:31 AM
Anybody know where i can get a clip of Ted Arcidis 705 bench press?

pocoloco blanka
06-17-2008, 03:49 PM
rob it is nice to see that someone remembers the guy who trains with these big names also.. the guy in the background never gets no respect.

BradDunn
06-18-2008, 06:04 AM
I can't believe everyone is ignoring my old roommate and good friend, Jeremy Hoornstra. Ask Kaz what he thinks about Jeremy and he will tell you this: " the best raw bench presser of all time".
Jeremy is who broke Mike Mcdonald's 242 raw record and it now stands at 615 and Jeremy has a ton left in the tank. He did a 675 touch and go at the Arnold this year and watch out at this years Olympia; he should completely smash his own record.
BTW, one of the nicest and funniest guys you will ever meet.

DrDudley-Robey
06-18-2008, 10:45 AM
I am not on Scot's team anymore, for the last year I have been with Priest and the Nemesis Powerlifting team. I agree, only lifts in meets count.

Bob
06-18-2008, 06:16 PM
Anybody know where i can get a clip of Ted Arcidis 705 bench press?
Not a great one but here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8YgoixdEzU

vdizenzo
06-18-2008, 07:02 PM
I can't believe everyone is ignoring my old roommate and good friend, Jeremy Hoornstra. Ask Kaz what he thinks about Jeremy and he will tell you this: " the best raw bench presser of all time".
Jeremy is who broke Mike Mcdonald's 242 raw record and it now stands at 615 and Jeremy has a ton left in the tank. He did a 675 touch and go at the Arnold this year and watch out at this years Olympia; he should completely smash his own record.
BTW, one of the nicest and funniest guys you will ever meet.


675 touch and go counts for nothing. However, the 615 is awesome. Jeremy needs a few more meets under his belt before I'll throw his name out with the best ever.

Prophet
06-19-2008, 09:12 PM
Hoornstra and Chabot

chris mason
06-19-2008, 10:41 PM
Anyone bitching about today's judging needs to watch that Arcidi video. Touch and go all the way...

Anyway, I would have to say:

"Recent Times"
Halbert
Luyando
Kennelly

"Old School"
Williams
Casey
Hepburn


There are others, so many, but the above are some of the very best in my opinion.

ironmaster
06-22-2008, 09:29 PM
Since names are being thrown out there..and everyone I have seen listed are great benchers. I'll add Rock Lewis to the list of great 242 benchers...600 Raw at 229 bodyweight makes him a great bencher by any standards....no liftoffs usually either.

BPM Osgood
06-23-2008, 09:38 AM
Jay Fry Hit 725 at 181 a few weeks ago! Nice and clean Lift, he is on Fire!