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IgniteMyRockets
05-26-2008, 12:47 PM
http://www.brianmac.co.uk/dash.htm

if you don't know but you have 60m, 100m, and 200m times
thats a faily accurate calculator

if its hand timed add .24 seconds


don't lie over the internet :)

CrazyK
05-26-2008, 01:48 PM
I ran a 4.97 at 285 lbs., my football playing weight. Probably could get a better time if I had lost weight but mass it where its at when playing on the line.

bcraig5509
05-26-2008, 04:48 PM
I believe it was in the 5.5 area, electronically timed. That was last year when I was 215. We'll be testing this week again, so I'll have my new time at 190. I'm a center/nose guard.

biglift
05-26-2008, 04:54 PM
5.6 bw 230 ht 6ft

ThomasG
05-26-2008, 06:01 PM
4.8 .......

BPM Osgood
05-26-2008, 06:40 PM
Back in my High School Days I would Do Speed Training with the gym Owner. we would do Crazy Amounts of 40 yard Sprints with and without a parachute We did these all Summer to get ready for football.... He clamed I could run a 4.2 40... but I just never could believe it. I was always good for under 4.5! Under 5 with a parachute...!!

Reko
05-26-2008, 07:06 PM
4.7 .. 6 years and 70 pounds ago. hand timed fwiw

BigRic
05-26-2008, 07:31 PM
I've run a number of times under 4.5

bcraig5509
05-26-2008, 07:46 PM
Is it possible to really improve on that time, or is there a natural limit that your body won't ever break?

BigRic
05-26-2008, 08:28 PM
Of course their is genetic limits. Some people are born to be sprinters.

IgniteMyRockets
05-26-2008, 09:59 PM
Is it possible to really improve on that time, or is there a natural limit that your body won't ever break?

you can improve, but there is a limit. you'll never reach that limit though unless you train at it for years.
its like pulling a rubber band. its easy when you start and then it gets harder and harder to stretch it.


but hard work does wonders. i ran a 13.0flat 100m a year and a half ago, now i can do under 11.7s

my 40yd was 5.12hand timed a little less then year ago and now its 4.8


oh and
4.5s is equivalent to a 10.6second 100meter
4.4s is equivalent to a 10.4second 100meter
4.3s is equivalent to a 10.2second 100meter

the fastest person this track season in wisconsin did 10.92s 100meter so far.
generally at state for D1 people win with 10.5-10.7

and for college D2 and D3 people generally win with a 10.3-10.5
and college D1 and D2 is generally 10.1-10.3

for highschool 12s is average
11.8 is above average
11.5 is good
11 is very very good
anything under 11s is mindblowing


just so everyone who says they run under 4.6s know who they are comparing themselves with.

the fastest real 40yd time ever recorded in the NFL was Deon Sanders at 4.3seconds. everything that is recorded in NFL combines is generally b.s. or hand timed (and all nfl 40yard dashes are designed so the clock startes whenever the athlete starts running)

marice greene ran a 4.2s when he set the record for 60meter sprint.

Detard
05-27-2008, 02:06 PM
I think it was 4.90 with full gear on (last september). Pretty slow but I'm working on it.

I play LB and this year i'll be playing fullback in highschool football.

Edited because I actually checked my 40 time with my coach from last season.

Guido
05-27-2008, 02:26 PM
I ran a 4.90 FAT in high school when I was all of 125lbs and hadn't touched a weight in my life. I have no idea what I'd do now. I'm now over 200lbs but a LOT stronger in the legs. I know my verticle is higher now but don't know if that means anything.

Goodwinm
05-28-2008, 02:44 AM
100m was 12.5 in high school. So assuming I could still do that then 40 yard dash would be around 5.5 am i right?
but Same as Guido my legs are a hell of alot stornger now than in high school so maybe sprinting 40 yards with 215lbs would hit the same score again. (I need to give that a go).

Relentless
05-28-2008, 05:50 AM
I'm old and slow now but can still clock a 4.9 or 5.0.
Actually last summer I started training sprints again. At first the best I could must was 5.5s or so. After some training (just more sprinting, really), I got under 5.0 again.

FWIW in my experience 40 times mean a lot less than game speed.

IgniteMyRockets
05-28-2008, 07:52 AM
100m was 12.5 in high school. So assuming I could still do that then 40 yard dash would be around 5.5 am i right?

about 5.44 so yea.

WillNoble
05-28-2008, 08:40 AM
High School : 4.79 @ 245lbs. BW Hand Timed (clinic)


College: 5.27 @ 325lbs. BW Hand Timed (pro-day)

schmitty199
05-28-2008, 06:44 PM
I'm old and slow now but can still clock a 4.9 or 5.0.
Actually last summer I started training sprints again. At first the best I could must was 5.5s or so. After some training (just more sprinting, really), I got under 5.0 again.

FWIW in my experience 40 times mean a lot less than game speed.

Agreed, id say agility drills translate better to football speed then a 40, it's extremely rare to sprint in a straight line for that distance in football. Also when talking "football speed" you have to take into account how a player carries his pads. From what ive seen stronger players with stockier builds tend to carry their pads much better then your skinnier prototypical track star.

schmitty199
05-28-2008, 07:08 PM
oh and
4.5s is equivalent to a 10.6second 100meter
4.4s is equivalent to a 10.4second 100meter
4.3s is equivalent to a 10.2second 100meter

just so everyone who says they run under 4.6s know who they are comparing themselves with.

the fastest real 40yd time ever recorded in the NFL was Deon Sanders at 4.3seconds. everything that is recorded in NFL combines is generally b.s. or hand timed (and all nfl 40yard dashes are designed so the clock startes whenever the athlete starts running)

marice greene ran a 4.2s when he set the record for 60meter sprint.

Definetly disagree with a few points in this. IMO in many cases it's not possible to take a 40 and convert it to an accurate 100 time or vise versa. It's just not the same. Most of a 40 is all about the start and your acceleration, you only reach your top speed for a very limited part of that distance. Many runners with a longer stride are going to fare much better in a 100 then a 40 because they can generally cover more distance once they get up to top speed. Those same runners arent going to fare quite as well in a 40. Many olympic sprinters have had their 40's officially timed and quite a few ended up with sub 4.4's, which is excellent, but not tops in the NFL. But would the NFL players that beat them in the 40 win in a 100? Not a chance.

Chris Johnson ran an official 4.24 at the combine, which is the fastest electronic time in the NFL.

The official times from the NFL combine are electronically done, the hand times are unofficial times. The clock starts when the runner starts, whats wrong with that? It eliminates some human error and gets a more legit time.

IgniteMyRockets
05-28-2008, 07:28 PM
Definetly disagree with a few points in this. IMO in many cases it's not possible to take a 40 and convert it to an accurate 100 time or vise versa. It's just not the same. Most of a 40 is all about the start and your acceleration, you only reach your top speed for a very limited part of that distance. Many runners with a longer stride are going to fare much better in a 100 then a 40 because they can generally cover more distance once they get up to top speed. Those same runners arent going to fare quite as well in a 40. Many olympic sprinters have had their 40's officially timed and quite a few ended up with sub 4.4's, which is excellent, but not tops in the NFL. But would the NFL players that beat them in the 40 win in a 100? Not a chance.

Chris Johnson ran an official 4.24 at the combine, which is the fastest electronic time in the NFL.

The official times from the NFL combine are electronically done, the hand times are unofficial times. The clock starts when the runner starts, whats wrong with that? It eliminates some human error and gets a more legit time.

I don't think the calculator is perfectly accurate. but i do not think it more than a margin of more than .3seconds but when tyson gay or asafa powell run 100m run their 100m in the occasional 9.79s, there is NO nfl athlete that would beat them over the 36.5meter mark.

the long legs theory is off because i have good acceleration in 100m, and i get passed up around 50m-60m which is the top speed area. i have the legs and armspan of a 6"0 person, but the torso of a 5"8 person (i'm 5"10)

he may have ran a 4.24, but the clock doesn't start until he passes the starting line

Reko
05-28-2008, 08:13 PM
I don't think the calculator is perfectly accurate. but i do not think it more than a margin of more than .3seconds but when tyson gay or asafa powell run 100m run their 100m in the occasional 9.79s, there is NO nfl athlete that would beat them over the 36.5meter mark.

the long legs theory is off because i have good acceleration in 100m, and i get passed up around 50m-60m which is the top speed area. i have the legs and armspan of a 6"0 person, but the torso of a 5"8 person (i'm 5"10)

he may have ran a 4.24, but the clock doesn't start until he passes the starting line

The clock starts when the runner starts, not before, not after. Therefore it starts when it should. What is your hangup about that?

IgniteMyRockets
05-28-2008, 08:44 PM
The clock starts when the runner starts, not before, not after. Therefore it starts when it should. What is your hangup about that?

it starts when the runner starts the 40yd
not when the runner starts running

and its electric timed, yes. meaning that the clock stops as the runner crosses the lazer. not how the clock is initiated

Reko
05-28-2008, 08:50 PM
so you are saying they get running starts?

Ben Moore
05-28-2008, 09:16 PM
Reko - you're too short to be a good runner. Give up now...

Reko
05-28-2008, 09:22 PM
There is always hope! Let me at least hang on to that!

Reko
05-28-2008, 09:29 PM
Besides, once I get my new robot suit from MEtal I should be a few inches taller then. I wonder if its too late to add on the jetpack option....

Ben Moore
05-28-2008, 09:31 PM
Why so some Kenyan can beat up on you?!? I can't live with the thought bro!

IgniteMyRockets
05-28-2008, 09:41 PM
so you are saying they get running starts?

no
here this is what i mean:
"In track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.10 to 0.20 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock (after a reaction time of 0.10 to 0.20 seconds).

Although the 40-yard dash is not an official race in track and field, the 60 meter dash is an official distance in indoor track and field, with the world record for that race being 6.39 seconds (run twice by Maurice Greene, and once by Ben Johnson, whose record was annulled for Steroids). The fastest 60m split time is probably 6.32 seconds by Asafa Powell, in his 9.74 second 100m World Record run in Rieti, Italy. Fast starting elite sprinters such as Powell (and others past and present) can run a "Football 40" close to 4 seconds, because the sprinter does not have to react to the sound of the gun, and the starter has to react to their movement before the clock starts. In the 2001 World Championship 100m final in Edmonton, Greene covered 30m in 3.75 seconds running time and 40m in 4.64 seconds running time, putting his 40 yard (36.576m) running time at about 4.24 seconds. Given a hypothetical timer's reaction time to Greene's motion, Greene's "Football 40" time for this race would have been between 4.00 and 4.14 seconds. Billy Emory ran the fastest time ever at 3.89 during an Olympic trial. . "

i'm saying that the fastest official NFL 40yd (4.24?) would be .1 - .2 seconds slower (4.34-4.44) if it was timed the way the olympic runners run.

they run under 4.3s when they run the 60m and the 100m WITH the reaction time of .1 or .2 seconds taken away (so its NFL style) that would translate to 4.2 or 4.1seconds (4.0 for the very fastest races)

IgniteMyRockets
05-28-2008, 09:47 PM
oh and also
in the NFL 40yard they use PARTIAL Electronic Timing (start by hand, end on monitor).

so runner starts
.1-.2 reaction time for hand starter
take a NFL 40yd of 4.25s and add .1-.2s to it for the hand starter starting the clock whenever the runner goes and you get a 4.35-4.45s

and if they did it the way the olympic sprinters do that would be an additional .1-.2s which would make a elite NFL 40yd be anywhere from a 4.4-4.6s

Reko
05-28-2008, 10:09 PM
Why so some Kenyan can beat up on you?!? I can't live with the thought bro!

not if I drink POWER THIRST!!!!

THEN WE WILL TIE AND GET DEPORTED BACK TO KENYA!!!!!!!!


SNAKE EYES!!!!!!

BG5150
05-29-2008, 08:23 AM
I time my forties with a sun dial, I'm so slow.

Guido
05-29-2008, 09:30 AM
I time my forties with a sun dial, I'm so slow.
Is your time measured in epochs?

BG5150
05-30-2008, 06:50 AM
Is your time measured in epochs?

I start at the VI and end at the IX. So my sun dial 40 time is: III

Reko
05-30-2008, 07:03 AM
I start at the VI and end at the IX. So my sun dial 40 time is: III

LMAO

emjlr3
05-31-2008, 04:15 PM
I was tested at 4.5 flat in hs by my football coach( who played at Miami and for the Redskins a bit - doesn't mean you was perfect, but hopefully that he knew what he was doing)

at the Maryland football combine, the fastest time recorded was a 4.5 when I was there, I clocked in at 4.7

a buddy of mine, who was always just a hair faster then me ran a 4.45 from our hs football coach, but only a 4.8 at the combine

I have no idea what I can do right now, but when I was actually still well into sports in college, i felt as though I was faster then I was as a senior in hs

and that whole comparing 40 times to 100 yard dash times is spedtastic - many ppl have different top ends, and I for one barely get into my stride in a 40 yard dash, - maybe the last 10-15 yards

look at the 200 yard sprinter Michael Johnson - he was not great on the 100, but he whooped after that, once he got into his stride

schmitty199
06-01-2008, 10:26 AM
I don't think the calculator is perfectly accurate. but i do not think it more than a margin of more than .3seconds but when tyson gay or asafa powell run 100m run their 100m in the occasional 9.79s, there is NO nfl athlete that would beat them over the 36.5meter mark.

the long legs theory is off because i have good acceleration in 100m, and i get passed up around 50m-60m which is the top speed area. i have the legs and armspan of a 6"0 person, but the torso of a 5"8 person (i'm 5"10)

he may have ran a 4.24, but the clock doesn't start until he passes the starting line

Agree to disagree on the timing issue, I believe the way they do 40's is legit.

And I wouldnt exactly call 5'10 tall, im a hair under that and I consider myself short...

IgniteMyRockets
06-02-2008, 06:56 AM
look at the 200 yard sprinter Michael Johnson - he was not great on the 100, but he whooped after that, once he got into his stride

wrong - michael johnson was known for being fastest in the first 100meters around the turn.

then why didn't he run the 100meter? he was 6"1 but he has short legs in ratio to his torso compared to other sprinters. his strength was not his stride length. he had prossibly the fastest leg turnover of all the olympic sprinters which gave him an advantage around the turn.
he has the second fastest split time around the turn.


and of course, he could just hold that speed to the very end too.

BigRic
06-02-2008, 07:10 PM
This is one of my pet peeves. Who cares about converting it to olympics times. The 40 is used to compare speeds of players so when taken by the same person that's what it generally does.

Relentless
06-03-2008, 09:22 PM
Agreed, id say agility drills translate better to football speed then a 40, it's extremely rare to sprint in a straight line for that distance in football. Also when talking "football speed" you have to take into account how a player carries his pads. From what ive seen stronger players with stockier builds tend to carry their pads much better then your skinnier prototypical track star.

I don't know what kind of track stars were at your school but the ones at mine were pretty mesomorphic. Sure, distance runners are skinny but the sprinters I've seen are usually diesel.

I think you're a bit off base about the rarity of sprinting for 40 yards+, at least for WRs, TEs, and the guys covering them. Deep go routes, posts and flags are all ABOUT running long and straight. The guys with the fast 40s can achieve separation once they get the defender's hips turned and get that step on 'em.

jed
06-04-2008, 10:12 PM
oops i chose the 4.6-4.69 one but i forgot to add the +.24 so it'd be in the 4.8 one. i got clocked at 4.66 hand time.

this is a great argument. hah.

Reko
06-04-2008, 10:42 PM
You also need to as .04526634 seconds for each degree colder than 70 degrees and then subtract .0029 times pi squared for each raindrop that hits you on the way down.

jed
06-04-2008, 10:47 PM
You also need to as .04526634 seconds for each degree colder than 70 degrees and then subtract .0029 times pi squared for each raindrop that hits you on the way down.

how could we have forgotton? imbicels, we are.

bcraig5509
06-08-2008, 06:53 PM
Just ran it today for the combine at my high school. We had a black button we had to push on and allowed to release it whenever we chose to start. Then at the end of the track there was a camera which picked you up after you finished.

I got 5.55 seconds.

jed
06-08-2008, 07:56 PM
i wish my high school had 'combines'. damn i'm jealous. that's an interesting way of timing the 40 though never heard of that one yet.

Alex.V
06-08-2008, 08:38 PM
You also need to as .04526634 seconds for each degree colder than 70 degrees and then subtract .0029 times pi squared for each raindrop that hits you on the way down.

Don't forget to adjust for elevation and various oxygen saturation levels at different air pressures.

This is silly. Arbitrarily asking someone to add 0.24 seconds for hand starting is as ludicrous as asking someone to add 0.16 seconds for running on spikes or 0.5 seconds for being a pisces. Reaction times differ as much as any other variable.

At the end of the day, no two timing mechanisms, track conditions (field in cleats? Rubber track in spikes?) etc. will give identical measurements, so really this is best used as a basis for comparison unless you're asking for 40's in a given arena. Mine was tested in a nose to nose timing gate system, which eliminates reaction time, but could arguably give a miniscule running start. So it's probably not directly comparable to any time here. In fact, none of the times here are PRECISELY comparable, so why you nitpicking?

Chubrock
06-09-2008, 07:28 AM
Don't forget to adjust for elevation and various oxygen saturation levels at different air pressures.

This is silly. Arbitrarily asking someone to add 0.24 seconds for hand starting is as ludicrous as asking someone to add 0.16 seconds for running on spikes or 0.5 seconds for being a pisces. Reaction times differ as much as any other variable.

At the end of the day, no two timing mechanisms, track conditions (field in cleats? Rubber track in spikes?) etc. will give identical measurements, so really this is best used as a basis for comparison unless you're asking for 40's in a given arena. Mine was tested in a nose to nose timing gate system, which eliminates reaction time, but could arguably give a miniscule running start. So it's probably not directly comparable to any time here. In fact, none of the times here are PRECISELY comparable, so why you nitpicking?



Where the hell have you been man?

tangerine dream
06-11-2008, 11:37 PM
I was clocked at a 4.8 electronic start and stop. Which is weird because when I looked at the stats of the soccer team (I play lacrosse) I was faster than anyone on the team (though only by .01). Our soccer team was ranked 25th in the nation for DII soccer too. I thought our soccer team would have some blazingly fast guys running like 4.5's or 4.6's. Are soccer players known for being fast or is it more of a finesse sport?

40 times are only really useful to compare within teams and at recruiting events where the people being evaluated ran in the same conditions. I hope to run a 4.6 next season it was kind of muddy when I ran it this past year.

teenathlete3030
06-16-2008, 11:13 AM
4.9 hand at beginning of football last year. Ran 5.2 electronic after it was over. Since then I've been taught good mechanics and have gotten more powerful, so I figure I should be able to do faster. I'll have to wait till testing.

weasel
06-16-2008, 11:47 AM
6-6.18 Last year and I'm quite a bit faster now been speed training so I'm for sure in the 5.5-6 range now.

not super fast but for a linemen it's decent.

(forgot to mention it was electronic)

Eric Downey
06-16-2008, 04:56 PM
4.5 in high school

fooz
06-16-2008, 05:04 PM
4.9 , center @ 170.

ced^_-
07-17-2008, 09:11 PM
My fastest none bs time was 4.42 Full Automatic Timing. This was done on a track with track shoes back when I ran track.

CosmicForce
08-09-2008, 10:49 AM
Slow!

Football
08-09-2008, 10:54 AM
5.5 lol

Dingus
08-09-2008, 04:45 PM
4.1...minutes

KarstenDD
09-02-2008, 05:13 PM
hmm the last time I ran a 40 was probably around 13 months ago. So my time is about 13 months and counting.

Tennessee Mike
09-03-2008, 11:24 AM
about 40 minutes.

Bupp
09-03-2008, 10:14 PM
Ran a 5.06 and a 5.12 at training camp this year. ran on grass not a track.

gamodye
09-04-2008, 02:15 AM
i ran a 5.4... but it was on a road, with my family timing me with a stopwatch...
no grip, but also no real accuracy

Skinny McFreak
09-04-2008, 04:06 AM
ahh, well im new...

freeride
09-05-2008, 11:20 AM
I ran in the upper 4.8s in high school as a 225lbs tight end. At 310lbs now, I bet I could run it in...twenty minutes.

Tyler The Beast
09-13-2008, 06:07 PM
Just ran a 4.3 at baseball camp last weekend, hopefully i can get it down to a 4.1 flat by the end of winter.

EVILGOOSEY
09-20-2008, 10:40 PM
Ran a 4.72 FAT at a recent football game.
little kiddie thing but I decided to try it out ;D

BigRic
09-21-2008, 08:55 PM
Just ran a 4.3 at baseball camp last weekend, hopefully i can get it down to a 4.1 flat by the end of winter.
Ha Ha Ha

Cristo27
09-26-2008, 02:02 AM
4.7 at 220lbs

TXslapshot
10-08-2008, 11:01 AM
Playing football in highschool i ran a 4.9 at 190. I was slow but ran routes with precision and had quickness. My freshman year in highschool i saw our staring QB run a 4.3 flat, it was electronically timed. Too bad he burnt a dorm down his freshman year in college haha.

Painzer
10-27-2008, 11:55 PM
Never ran a timed 40 (ran a 60 but don't remember). But I was the only one in my high school under 4 seconds to first base out of the right handed batter box...

CrazyK
11-01-2008, 02:06 AM
4.97 as a 305 lbs. center in college. That was a year ago.

Geeek
11-03-2008, 01:24 PM
Some of those times sound awfully fast....

juggz
11-03-2008, 01:38 PM
Faaaaaaaaast...

sIghtLines
11-06-2008, 06:21 PM
electronically timed this past summer at a 4.5. probably could of gotten it down a little bit more. am a QB

AJL11
11-13-2008, 02:25 PM
4.69... Timed by our coaches during spring testing......

4.9... During a pro day held by NFL scouts.......

I didn't make it........................

WillNoble
12-14-2008, 10:25 PM
I didn't make it........................


Welcome to the club.....its a VERY large club....





:alcoholic:

Cant_See_D
01-30-2009, 12:37 PM
mines 4.5 but i been doin track long time my 100 is 11.2 and 200m is 21.9 came in 4th and 5th in the western mass finals high jump was also 6'2 maxed out at 6'4 once in a meet but idk how


but the 40 for me is nothign because i keep accelerating to around 80m

Whuditdew
02-22-2009, 09:00 PM
I run a 4.7 40. Their is a player on my schools football team who runs a 4.41.

squat huge
02-23-2009, 12:07 AM
I don't think the calculator is perfectly accurate. but i do not think it more than a margin of more than .3seconds but when tyson gay or asafa powell run 100m run their 100m in the occasional 9.79s, there is NO nfl athlete that would beat them over the 36.5meter mark.

the long legs theory is off because i have good acceleration in 100m, and i get passed up around 50m-60m which is the top speed area. i have the legs and armspan of a 6"0 person, but the torso of a 5"8 person (i'm 5"10)

he may have ran a 4.24, but the clock doesn't start until he passes the starting line

Usain Bolt has very long legs. He did not take the lead until about the half way mark. Same goes for Donovon Bailey when he won gold. Usain is 6'5" I would imagine he has much longer legs than you. Maybe he is a better test for the long leg theory than you are.

Ike
02-25-2009, 04:27 PM
geez... I haven't run a 40 in ages. Back when I was younger I was pretty quick. I could run it in about 5.8, but now... who knows. I strive for distance, not speed.

AJL11
02-25-2009, 06:20 PM
geez... I haven't run a 40 in ages. Back when I was younger I was pretty quick. I could run it in about 5.8, but now... who knows. I strive for distance, not speed.

No offense my man, but a 5.8 is very slooooowww.....

Godssoulja
02-25-2009, 06:29 PM
5.0 flat on bad wheels 4.8 if this ankle ever heals.

vdizenzo
02-26-2009, 05:45 AM
I'd need a calendar to record mine.

RonnyB
02-26-2009, 11:36 AM
This makes me want to see where i'm at now.... faster or slower than i was in HS, in HS i ran a 4.67 at 5'9" 185 lbs. I was in much better shape then, HS wrestling and hockey, but i'm much stronger now.... i'm gonna go time myself. In the Police academy i had the fastest 300 meter time of 38 seconds in the whole 120 person class. Don't know how that compares.

TrynaGetBig21
03-10-2009, 02:13 AM
4.46 electronically timed at the Miami University football camp.

Cazerz
03-10-2009, 11:15 PM
4.56 is my hand timed 40 last year in my school Athletics.

And I dont think the 40 times correlate with the 100m dash because so far I've ran a 11.2 and your chart would say otherwise.

WillNoble
04-04-2009, 05:34 PM
And I dont think the 40 times correlate with the 100m dash because so far I've ran a 11.2 and your chart would say otherwise.


they certainly dont...


the 40 yd dash is an acceleration test, the 100yd dash is a speed test

UcfFootball07
04-26-2009, 02:04 PM
4.49 electronically timed during off-season workouts, but anywhere from the high 4.4's to low 4.5's. This s probably the thing I am going to work on most this off-season, but football wise this is the most over rated topic of all. I know guys that can get it (4.43, 4.39) but have no hands to catch a ball, or the football sense to go along with it. 5'10 187 CB

WillNoble
04-26-2009, 02:37 PM
4.49 electronically timed during off-season workouts, but anywhere from the high 4.4's to low 4.5's. This s probably the thing I am going to work on most this off-season, but football wise this is the most over rated topic of all. I know guys that can get it (4.43, 4.39) but have no hands to catch a ball, or the football sense to go along with it. 5'10 187 CB


yes but its the difference in 6 figures and 8 figures in the league

Marc123
04-28-2009, 03:47 PM
Yeah the 40 time is by far the most over-rated thing about football skills. Junior year in HS i ran a 4.51 at 5"9 204 pounds i never ran it senior year cause i got into bad stuff but i'm going to try and get up to 5"9 215 pounds and run a 4.5 and then try out for a juko team

slashkills
04-28-2009, 04:00 PM
Yes itís over rated but still one of the first things i would look for in an athlete. Football is all about acceleration and speed. The 40yard is the best off field test for that.

Travis Bell
04-28-2009, 05:28 PM
Yeah the 40 time is by far the most over-rated thing about football skills. Junior year in HS i ran a 4.51 at 5"9 204 pounds i never ran it senior year cause i got into bad stuff but i'm going to try and get up to 5"9 215 pounds and run a 4.5 and then try out for a juko team

No, the 185 and 225 rep max is the most over rated measure

40 times can tell you a lot about a player

WillNoble
04-28-2009, 06:30 PM
Yeah the 40 time is by far the most over-rated thing about football skills. Junior year in HS i ran a 4.51 at 5"9 204 pounds i never ran it senior year cause i got into bad stuff but i'm going to try and get up to 5"9 215 pounds and run a 4.5 and then try out for a juko team

yes but at 5'9" you arent going to have much chance of making anywhere serious in college football, unless you are a Parade or Lindy's all american

KarstenDD
04-28-2009, 08:03 PM
yes but at 5'9" you arent going to have much chance of making anywhere serious in college football, unless you are a Parade or Lindy's all american

Just like Buster Davis.

ShaneSauce
04-28-2009, 08:52 PM
Last time I ran it was January of this year.

Ran a 5.2 @ 6'1 270 pounds

And by the way the coaches look at multiple things not just your 40 yard dash and how many times you can rep 225.

They also look at your vertical jump, long jump, 400m run, mile run, shuttle run.

WillNoble
04-28-2009, 10:47 PM
Just like Buster Davis.

The across the board average for the NFL is:


This shows that average player is 6'1.5" and 245 lbs.


The 3 shortest active players are

Darren Sprowles 5'6"
Maurice Jones-Drew 5'8"
Buster Davis 5'9"

slashkills
04-29-2009, 05:50 AM
Darren sprowles is a fast little ******

rainjack
04-29-2009, 12:28 PM
My 40 time is completely dependent on who is chasing me - and how confident I am that, once caught, I will get my face pummeled.

Guido
04-29-2009, 02:55 PM
The across the board average for the NFL is:




The 3 shortest active players are

Darren Sprowles 5'6"
Maurice Jones-Drew 5'8"
Buster Davis 5'9"Garrett Wolfe of the Bears is also 5'7.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Wolfe

schmitty199
04-29-2009, 03:42 PM
yes but at 5'9" you arent going to have much chance of making anywhere serious in college football, unless you are a Parade or Lindy's all american

That just depends.. 5'9-5'11 is the ideal height of the modern day RB, and if the talents there CB's can make it at that height as well, and there's some WR's at that height as well. But in general your right, hard to seriously play anything else at that height.

slashkills
04-29-2009, 03:54 PM
My 40 time is completely dependent on who is chasing me - and how confident I am that, once caught, I will get my face pummeled.

...awesome

KoSh
04-29-2009, 07:02 PM
40 time is really not at all a good test for any offensive line position. There guys are asked to accelerate VERY quickly. I'd say the shortest distance to accurately measure acceleration is best for a lineman, especially, and probably more beneficial to most positions in the league, honestly. I'd say a 20 would be a much better guage. If you could realistically record times for shorter distances that might even be a better measure.

WillNoble
04-29-2009, 07:41 PM
40 time is really not at all a good test for any offensive line position. There guys are asked to accelerate VERY quickly. I'd say the shortest distance to accurately measure acceleration is best for a lineman, especially, and probably more beneficial to most positions in the league, honestly. I'd say a 20 would be a much better guage. If you could realistically record times for shorter distances that might even be a better measure.

thats why the key indicator for OLs is their 10-yd dash time, it will become much more popular in the coming years, but is really surfacing as a major test at not only the NFL combine, but most other pro-days and combines

KoSh
04-29-2009, 08:21 PM
thats why the key indicator for OLs is their 10-yd dash time, it will become much more popular in the coming years, but is really surfacing as a major test at not only the NFL combine, but most other pro-days and combines

I'm a big proponent of the shorter distances, even for a lot of the skill positions. If a receiver can get off the line incredibly fast and get separation within a few yards, they have a HUGE advantage.

The 40 is a very overrated test, just due to the fact that it's so long. Sure, it has a bit of carry over, albeit not too great because you don't get your 40 timed in pads... But it does have some. But how often does a guy get to run 40 yards in a straight line without being hit? It's rare.

The Bench Press is also an overrated test, albeit a terrible 225 rep test doesn't bode too well for your overall strength. Take Andre Smith, for example. At 325 pounds he only pressed 225 19 times. That's not very good. I'd like to see his squat numbers, but my guess is he's overall weak for a man of that size.

I think he's got bust written all over him, but that's a different story.

I think they used a sundial to time his 40, too.

scott rowe
04-30-2009, 12:37 PM
a few years ago i was an all-american div III track and field sprinter so believe if you want: 40 yard time 4.26 fat 100m 10.68fat 200m 21.66 fat now i'm much heavier and squatted over 900 benched over 700 and pulled over 700 i have a few fast twitch muscle fibers.

slashkills
04-30-2009, 03:17 PM
Are all of those fat's supposed to be flat?

Jesse Hernandez
04-30-2009, 07:04 PM
5.1 Laser @ 316lbs

scott rowe
04-30-2009, 09:11 PM
no fully auto timed. in comps.

schmitty199
05-01-2009, 09:28 PM
I'm a big proponent of the shorter distances, even for a lot of the skill positions. If a receiver can get off the line incredibly fast and get separation within a few yards, they have a HUGE advantage.

The 40 is a very overrated test, just due to the fact that it's so long. Sure, it has a bit of carry over, albeit not too great because you don't get your 40 timed in pads... But it does have some. But how often does a guy get to run 40 yards in a straight line without being hit? It's rare.

The Bench Press is also an overrated test, albeit a terrible 225 rep test doesn't bode too well for your overall strength. Take Andre Smith, for example. At 325 pounds he only pressed 225 19 times. That's not very good. I'd like to see his squat numbers, but my guess is he's overall weak for a man of that size.

I think he's got bust written all over him, but that's a different story.

I think they used a sundial to time his 40, too.

And on the other hand high weight room numbers doesnt always transfer directly to the field.. there's many other things like proper use of leverage and hands, toughness, feet quickness,and their "motor" that determines how much push a lineman gets. If Andre Smith fails in the NFL I really doubt it's because he's not strong enough. It'll be because his off-season antics lead one to believe he's lazy, isnt real passionate about the game, and he's playing for the Bengals..