Inactive Ready Reserve Marines

[BigNic]

These guys make up like 1/3 of my battalion. and to think most people dont even think about the fact that all military contracts are actually 8 years long.




More IRR Marines face involuntary call-ups

By Kimberly Johnson - staff writer
Posted : Friday Feb 2, 2007 21:34:35 EST

Marines in the Individual Ready Reserve could face involuntary activations to fill the gap as the Corps moves to increase its end strength by 22,000 Marines, according to the Corps’ top mobilization official.

Last August, President Bush gave the Corps authority to involuntarily activate up to 2,500 IRR Marines at any one time. That power was exercised in December when 150 IRR Marines were involuntarily called up for duty — the first time the Corps had made such a call since 2002. Activations would be for up to 18 months for each Marine.

There will probably be more involuntary activations in the near future, Brig. Gen. Darrell Moore, commanding general of Marine Corps Mobilization Command, told Marine Corps Times on Feb. 2. Moore would not give further details but said it would be “more than 150.”

Reservists could also be used to fill manpower gaps until proposed end-strength increases are achieved, the MobCom commander said. The Bush administration has said it wants to increase end strength by 5,000 Marines a year until it reaches 202,000. End strength is at 180,000.

“The IRR exists for a reason,” Moore said. “I think an operational Reserve does have a place in helping the Marine Corps meet its manpower demands, whatever those might be, whether they are part of a congressionally authorized end-strength increase over time, whether they are for very legitimate deployment tempo concerns, as testified to the commandant regarding our infantry battalion and others regarding their rotation schedules.”

Moore was referring to Commandant Gen. James Conway’s initiative to increase time at home between deployments for Marines. Right now, Marines spend about seven months at home after seven months deployed. He wants to double that time at home to 14 months.

Involuntarily activating IRR Marines could make sense with respect to small skill sets, such as intelligence, explosive ordnance disposal, military police or other job fields that might have long school lengths, low density or lack of available school seats, said Frank Hoffman, a research fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute in Philadelphia.

There are about 60,000 leathernecks in the IRR, which can lay hands on about 80 percent of its Marines. The remaining 20 percent — or about 12,000 — have not kept their contact information current. “They’ve not been proactive,” Moore said.

Plus-ups to Corps end strength would also round out the Reserve, Moore said.

“That obviously will have a ripple effect,” he said. “More Marines on active duty means, down the road, Marines leaving active duty.”

Corps leaders have said they plan to make the end-strength goal by stepping up recruiting and luring back leathernecks already out of service.

The Corps loses about 39,000 Marines annually and estimates there are about 100,000 released from duty who are re-enlistment eligible, Lt. Gen. Emerson Gardner, deputy commandant for programs and resources, said during a press briefing last month.

“We are going to go out, and our commandant will make a call to arms and see what number of those 100,000 would be willing to come back on active duty,” Gardner said. Ë
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[must_eat]

My friend is going into the marines the recruiter guaranteed sniper/recon MUS for him. He tried to talk me into it on the buddy program I said HELL NO!! lol i couldnt have a dude screaming at me all day! :hello:

[blackboard]

My friend is going into the marines the recruiter guaranteed sniper/recon MUS for him. He tried to talk me into it on the buddy program I said HELL NO!! lol i couldnt have a dude screaming at me all day! :hello:

You can't be guaranteed recon or sniper anything. Your friend doesn't even know if he can shoot yet.

[bassboy]

My friend is going into the marines the recruiter guaranteed sniper/recon MUS for him. He tried to talk me into it on the buddy program I said HELL NO!! lol i couldnt have a dude screaming at me all day! :hello:

Is that even possible?

I thought recon Marines and scout snipers were chosen? Isn't the only thing you could be guaranteed for active duty was the type of MOS. Infantry is 03xx, with being in the infantry the only thing set in stone. After that don't they assign you the last two numbers based on the needs of the Marine Corps?

Your buddy's recruiter may not have been honest. I could be wrong though.

[blackboard]

Is that even possible?

I thought recon Marines and scout snipers were chosen? Isn't the only thing you could be guaranteed for active duty was the type of MOS. Infantry is 03xx, with being in the infantry the only thing set in stone. After that don't they assign you the last two numbers based on the needs of the Marine Corps?

Your buddy's recruiter may not have been honest. I could be wrong though.

You are correct. Recon and sniper is something you earn. Every infantry person wants those jobs but few get them. Signing up for Infantry is a ticket straight to Iraq after SOI school. His new unit won't have the manpower or time to let him try out for those jobs. Also, if he shoots bad or average at the range or can't do 20 pull ups or run 3 miles in 18 minutes his unit will laugh at him for talking about the ideal of recon or sniper. In other words welcome to Iraq and not sniper or recon school.

[must_eat]

wELL i talked to him and he said the recruiter said GUaranteed 0311 AND 0321???? wHATEVER THAT IS??? :confused: He can already run 17 mins on 3 mile, 20 pullups and 100 situps so he's all set he said.

Oh and he's not going to Iraq because the recruiter told him that by the time he gets out of bootcamps and soi and all his training that the marines will be out of iraq, he leaves in august for bootcamp.

All his recruiter said is that he will be fast roping out of helos, doing swat training, etc... so hes going to get good training. :shoot:

[Blackhawk08]

0311 is infantry. Im not sure on 0321. But while he will have VERY good training unless he manages to get into a Spec Ops school... welcome to Iraq, and with the mobilization going on i gaurentee there will be Marines in Iraq then. BTW tell him good luck, I leave at the end of July for Navy Basic.

[BigNic]

0321 is a Reconaissance Marine.

heres some info i found, its all cut and paste

There is currently (as of right now) a guaranteed 0321 enlistment option. Designator - Uniform Zulu (UZ).

Applicants must
- be a U.S. Citizen
- be a high school graduate - no GED's
- No drug waivers
- No moral waivers
- have normal color perception
- 20/20 vision - minor corrections allowed
- must have a GT score of 105 or better

The guarantee is contigent upon
- 2nd Class or better swimmer in Boot Camp
- 1st Class PFT in Boot Camp
- passing the Indoc/BRC
- obtaining a secret clearance

otherwise enlistee is reverted to 03xx.

AND...

There is an $8000 enlistment bonus for this option.

Everything you need to know about the enlistment option is stated above.

Everything you need to know about Recon can be found here:
http://www.forcerecon.com/reconfaq.htm
http://www.forcerecon.com/strongmenarmed.htm

[blackboard]

wELL i talked to him and he said the recruiter said GUaranteed 0311 AND 0321???? wHATEVER THAT IS??? :confused: He can already run 17 mins on 3 mile, 20 pullups and 100 situps so he's all set he said.

Oh and he's not going to Iraq because the recruiter told him that by the time he gets out of bootcamps and soi and all his training that the marines will be out of iraq, he leaves in august for bootcamp.

All his recruiter said is that he will be fast roping out of helos, doing swat training, etc... so hes going to get good training. :shoot:

Don't forget we're fighting a never ending war in Afgan. He is going to the Middle East one way or another. Maybe if he joined the Army, he would have a small chance of not seeing combat but the Marine Corps is a first class ticket to Camp Desert because of its size.


Your friend should be looking to fight anyways. Kind of defeats the purpose of going recon when we're at war with two countries. Finally, the bonus money comes with a *. If he fails out of school = no money.

[must_eat]

Don't forget we're fighting a never ending war in Afgan. He is going to the Middle East one way or another. Maybe if he joined the Army, he would have a small chance of not seeing combat but the Marine Corps is a first class ticket to Camp Desert because of its size.


Your friend should be looking to fight anyways. Kind of defeats the purpose of going recon when we're at war with two countries. Finally, the bonus money comes with a *. If he fails out of school = no money.

Hey blackboard he's trying to talk me into joining with him but you said he will not see combat actions with recon??

but Im wondering because I'm short, if I can become a MP or 50 cal gunner? :confused:


and also what about airsoft?? We do airsoft alot will that help us?? :confused: oh and his dad has a ak-47 and we shoot that his dad is hardcore because his dad used to be in the marines. :outnumber:

[BigNic]

yea dude airsoft is all ya need. that or paintball. theyll prolly make yall officers at MCRD. seriously. make sure ya tell your DI's about your airsoft combat experience.

[Chubrock]

Oh dear God.

[ryuage]

everyone knows laser tag is preferred over airsoft.

[blackboard]

Hey blackboard he's trying to talk me into joining with him but you said he will not see combat actions with recon??

but Im wondering because I'm short, if I can become a MP or 50 cal gunner? :confused:


and also what about airsoft?? We do airsoft alot will that help us?? :confused: oh and his dad has a ak-47 and we shoot that his dad is hardcore because his dad used to be in the marines. :outnumber:

Joining the Military is your choice. If you don't want combat then its probably not a good ideal to join.Don't let anyone pressure you into joining because once in, you're property of the US gov't for 8 years. He will see combat and recon isn't easy so chances are he will be just regular infantry. There's no substitute for shooting a M16A2 or M16A4.

You guys shouldn't get caught up in the titles of recon and MP as if those are easy jobs to get. 65'' is the height requirement I believe for MP. Slow down and just take the asvab and see what you possibly qualify for. Please don't sign any contract because of pressure from your buddy.

[BigNic]

dude if your heart set on seeing combat dont go mp. there is always the chance youll go pmo and then your job is just buddy ****ing other Marines. Or if you do go field side you still may do pmo stuff in Iraq, or maybe do convoy security or escorts. If your looking for combat id go 03xx

[blackboard]

dude if your heart set on seeing combat dont go mp. there is always the chance youll go pmo and then your job is just buddy ****ing other Marines. Or if you do go field side you still may do pmo stuff in Iraq, or maybe do convoy security or escorts. If your looking for combat id go 03xx
As of today any job in the Marine Corps equal Iraq, Afgan. The Corps is small meaning Marines are now doing multiple combat tours. He won't get a non deployable Job over any combat experience Marines. In conclusion, welcome to the desert.

[BigNic]

yea man, welcome to you also. im here with an mp company right now. that being said there are several boots here who went to mp school with numerous guys that went straight pmo. on my 1st deployment several of my mp friends also did their first several years pmo. plus most big bases in iraq have pmo mps out here as well. welcome to the desert doesnt mean welcome to combat. theyre a lot of mps that never leave the wire doing provisional duties. theyre are a ton of Marines who go to Iraq and never ever leave the wire. the company im with does eod escort and convoy security. just convoys and ****. obviously ied's and small arms is a threat to anyone outside the wire but if your searching for combat and h2h patrols and all of that good stuff 03 is the way to be. everyone elses job is to support the grunt, no matter what any of us want to say.

[bjohnso]

Possibly a dumb question, but why is there a height requirement for an MP, or anything for that matter?

[must_eat]

yea dude airsoft is all ya need. that or paintball. theyll prolly make yall officers at MCRD. seriously. make sure ya tell your DI's about your airsoft combat experience.


ok but Im not going to brag to them that we did airsoft for the past three years, ill just tell them if they ask. :)

ok thanks blackboard and nic for the info I still dont know if I will join though because its a major decision. My mom says no and I asked her why and she said because our whole family is liberal. :scratch: i dont care though im doing what i want to do!! :clown:

im thinking that if I do go in with my buddy on the buddy program that we will do good though because we have airsoft, im in good shape now and we also beat that game FIRST TO FIGHT CLOSE COMBAT the actual marine sim game is bad ass :outnumber: we learned how a squad works and then we go out and practice it in airsoft and practice the tactics like room clearing. :evillaugh:

[Chubrock]

ok but Im not going to brag to them that we did airsoft for the past three years, ill just tell them if they ask. :)

ok thanks blackboard and nic for the info I still dont know if I will join though because its a major decision. My mom says no and I asked her why and she said because our whole family is liberal. :scratch: i dont care though im doing what i want to do!! :clown:

im thinking that if I do go in with my buddy on the buddy program that we will do good though because we have airsoft, im in good shape now and we also beat that game FIRST TO FIGHT CLOSE COMBAT the actual marine sim game is bad ass :outnumber: we learned how a squad works and then we go out and practice it in airsoft and practice the tactics like room clearing. :evillaugh:




You've been here too long to be a troll, so you're either shooting the **** or really are that stupid. In case my gut feeling is correct, PLEASE don't join or encourage your buddy to join. You're going to get somebody or yourself killed.

[Jordanbcool]

ok but Im not going to brag to them that we did airsoft for the past three years, ill just tell them if they ask. :)

ok thanks blackboard and nic for the info I still dont know if I will join though because its a major decision. My mom says no and I asked her why and she said because our whole family is liberal. :scratch: i dont care though im doing what i want to do!! :clown:

im thinking that if I do go in with my buddy on the buddy program that we will do good though because we have airsoft, im in good shape now and we also beat that game FIRST TO FIGHT CLOSE COMBAT the actual marine sim game is bad ass :outnumber: we learned how a squad works and then we go out and practice it in airsoft and practice the tactics like room clearing. :evillaugh:

LMAO!

You should post much much more!! :zipit:

[must_eat]

PLEASE don't join or encourage your buddy to join. You're going to get somebody or yourself killed.


whatever dude your just jealous, i might not be the smartest or whatever, but you know what? I got heart man and that's all I need!!!!

2 late, because tommorow im going to the recruiter 2 see if i can do the ASVAB test, i just have to pass it and im in. :clown:

thanks nic and the other marines who helped me out SEMPER FI DO OR DIE!!! :outnumber:

[thoughtshewas18]

Hahahhah

[killxswitch]

I don't even know what to say. Airsoft. Lol.

[Brawl]

Good luck bro but think it through ... my little brother completed his EOD school last year and got a $10,000.00 bonus then went to a UK bomb school completed that and got another $4,000.00 .

It wasnt easy but he was committed to it .

He cant wait for afghanistan in a month . He's only 21 and still bullet proof . I envy him hahaha .

[Bikkstah]

If you join Marine INF or Army INF, you're guaranteed a slot in the School of Iraqistan. We're still picking up dudes fresh from Infantry School over here. We got one guy who's still 17.

[ProLogic]

My friend is going into the marines the recruiter guaranteed sniper/recon MUS for him. He tried to talk me into it on the buddy program I said HELL NO!! lol i couldnt have a dude screaming at me all day! :hello:

You must chill with a lot of gullible people. "My friend was guaranteed a sniper position". "The manager of wal-mart said I can become manager."

[Guido]

wELL i talked to him and he said the recruiter said GUaranteed 0311 AND 0321???? wHATEVER THAT IS??? :confused: He can already run 17 mins on 3 mile, 20 pullups and 100 situps so he's all set he said.

Oh and he's not going to Iraq because the recruiter told him that by the time he gets out of bootcamps and soi and all his training that the marines will be out of iraq, he leaves in august for bootcamp.

All his recruiter said is that he will be fast roping out of helos, doing swat training, etc... so hes going to get good training. :shoot:That recruiter was selling your buddy a load of crap. Once he signs on the dotted line and raises his right hand and says that oath everything the recruiter told him is out the window. I hope you're not that gullable as to believe all that you hear from a Marine recruiter, are you? Unless it's in writing on official military forms it means NOTHING.

<--------former military