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Unholy
06-08-2008, 09:51 PM
Heres my Buddy Deadlifting 600 for a single, please critique form.

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Reko
06-08-2008, 10:30 PM
The hips shooting up real high at first was really the only thing I noted. Sumo pulling is supposed to be used to take advantage of hip strength (on top of shorter ROM) and by doing that it kind of negates that, IMO. Strong pull though, prolly had more in him.

BFGUITAR
06-08-2008, 11:03 PM
Lol nice slap

Yeh he could have started with his hips lower.

bigsalts
06-09-2008, 05:06 AM
The hips shooting up real high at first was really the only thing I noted. Sumo pulling is supposed to be used to take advantage of hip strength (on top of shorter ROM) and by doing that it kind of negates that, IMO. Strong pull though, prolly had more in him.

Thanks for the critique, After watching the video i felt the same way about shooting up too high.... something to work on

Chubrock
06-09-2008, 07:09 AM
HMB MFers!

Jorge Sanchez
06-09-2008, 09:34 AM
The hips were the first thing I noticed. Huge pull. You made it look easy.

emjlr3
06-09-2008, 10:16 AM
dont think your knees changed their bend angle through the entire lift, 100% back there, hurts my back looking at it

good pull though, very very strong

WBBIRL
06-09-2008, 10:49 AM
He had a good starting position but shot up out of it right as he started the pull, almost like double clutching a squat.

Strong pull though, and tell him not to drop the weights.... for the simple fact your body works to lower it too so why not get that work in. It stretches the muscles when your bring it back down controlled.

bigsalts
06-09-2008, 11:27 AM
He had a good starting position but shot up out of it right as he started the pull, almost like double clutching a squat.

Strong pull though, and tell him not to drop the weights.... for the simple fact your body works to lower it too so why not get that work in. It stretches the muscles when your bring it back down controlled.

Thanks for the critiques everyone. Ill work on the form.
To justify the dropping of weights, i knew someone was going to say something. i normally dont drop them but Schaedle and i hate that gym! So we told each other that when we get to 600 we would drop the weights just because of that
but i completely agree it is best to bring it back down!

bjohnso
06-09-2008, 11:39 AM
Thanks for the critiques everyone. Ill work on the form.
To justify the dropping of weights, i knew someone was going to say something. i normally dont drop them but Schaedle and i hate that gym! So we told each other that when we get to 600 we would drop the weights just because of that
but i completely agree it is best to bring it back down!

B.S. says I. You'll bugger ur back lowering down slowly. Don't risk it, just drop it. Good pulling brah.

WBBIRL
06-09-2008, 01:23 PM
B.S. says I. You'll bugger ur back lowering down slowly. Don't risk it, just drop it. Good pulling brah.


How would you bugger your back letting it down controlled?

Are you trying to say that when the muscles are contracting to exert force that they're in a better position, as far as injuries go, then when they relax?

I would think that if his back is strong enough to pull that weight then it can certainly handle lowering it down.

I don't know about you but I can let 100 + pounds more weight down onto my chest then I can press, and I've never screwed up my chest or anything doing negative bench presses.

bjohnso
06-09-2008, 01:37 PM
How would you bugger your back letting it down controlled?

Are you trying to say that when the muscles are contracting to exert force that they're in a better position, as far as injuries go, then when they relax?

I would think that if his back is strong enough to pull that weight then it can certainly handle lowering it down.

I don't know about you but I can let 100 + pounds more weight down onto my chest then I can press, and I've never screwed up my chest or anything doing negative bench presses.

You mean, you haven't screwed it up yet?

Nosaj
06-09-2008, 01:56 PM
Definitely could use more leg drive in your form if you wanted to "improve your form". That being said, I've seen tons of world class DL'ers who use a very similar style pull, mostly back being used (I think I'm a mostly back puller too) so I think just do what works for you and if you think form might risk an injury, work on it then.

Above all else, ridiculous strength. 600+ is something to be proud of, good job.

bigsalts
06-09-2008, 02:14 PM
Definitely could use more leg drive in your form if you wanted to "improve your form". That being said, I've seen tons of world class DL'ers who use a very similar style pull, mostly back being used (I think I'm a mostly back puller too) so I think just do what works for you and if you think form might risk an injury, work on it then.

Above all else, ridiculous strength. 600+ is something to be proud of, good job.

Thanks man, appreciate it!

bigsalts
06-09-2008, 02:18 PM
B.S. says I. You'll bugger ur back lowering down slowly. Don't risk it, just drop it. Good pulling brah.

Haha, thanks bro... hopefully your there again when i go bigger sometime... im going to practice my form and work with that weight, then im going to start moving up when i take a little more of my back out of the equation. I need my commentary by Brian in the next video... "HMB"
Thanks bud

bjohnso
06-09-2008, 02:27 PM
Haha, thanks bro... hopefully your there again when i go bigger sometime... im going to practice my form and work with that weight, then im going to start moving up when i take a little more of my back out of the equation. I need my commentary by Brian in the next video... "HMB"
Thanks bud

I need Slim to bitch slap me next time so I can move big weights too. I want to see you do 500*10, that would be cool. I'm stuck at 415*1, lol!

Do a search for some of Chris Rodgers videos. He pulls sort of like you do. According to him, a deadlift is strictly a back lift. He doesn't care about legs during a deadlift, and neither do I. That's not what it's for IMO.

You probably had another 10-15lbs in you. You just need to drink 100g of dextrose, caffeine, and you need Slim to slap you harder.

Unholy
06-09-2008, 02:38 PM
More HMB imo.

bigsalts
06-09-2008, 02:53 PM
I need Slim to bitch slap me next time so I can move big weights too. I want to see you do 500*10, that would be cool. I'm stuck at 415*1, lol!

Do a search for some of Chris Rodgers videos. He pulls sort of like you do. According to him, a deadlift is strictly a back lift. He doesn't care about legs during a deadlift, and neither do I. That's not what it's for IMO.

You probably had another 10-15lbs in you. You just need to drink 100g of dextrose, caffeine, and you need Slim to slap you harder.

I definitely need more HMB, but i will do 500*10 next time considering i did 3 strong as a warmup..haha Im going to have Slim place an order for some dextrose (his is cheaper than what i found). Ill jump up on some caffeine and one more thing... WE CANT LISTEN TO MARIAH CAREY NEXT TIME... I HATE OUR REC. Im bringin in a stereo next time ;)

bjohnso
06-09-2008, 03:17 PM
I definitely need more HMB, but i will do 500*10 next time considering i did 3 strong as a warmup..haha Im going to have Slim place an order for some dextrose (his is cheaper than what i found). Ill jump up on some caffeine and one more thing... WE CANT LISTEN TO MARIAH CAREY NEXT TIME... I HATE OUR REC. Im bringin in a stereo next time ;)

I got an 11lb bag of dextrose from supplementsdirect.com for $9. Shipping killed me though, that was like an additional $14. I think they have it at do-it-yourself wine stores, which I have never been to.

TwiloMike
06-12-2008, 07:55 PM
I get maltodextrin and it's awesome- a 7lb bag for cheap... with decent shipping. I find it tastes more mild than dextrose, which to me tastes like sugar death.

Beholder
06-12-2008, 09:54 PM
I get maltodextrin and it's awesome- a 7lb bag for cheap... with decent shipping. I find it tastes more mild than dextrose, which to me tastes like sugar death.

Man me too! I cant handle dextrose thats why I never use it anymore... I started to use Waxy Maize but that **** is too expensive. Is Malto *that* much less sugary?

TwiloMike
06-12-2008, 10:19 PM
Man me too! I cant handle dextrose thats why I never use it anymore... I started to use Waxy Maize but that **** is too expensive. Is Malto *that* much less sugary?

Malto is subtle in its sweetness. Dextrose is nothing short of offensive to me. I get this stuff: http://www.amazon.com/Carbo-Gain-NOW-Foods-Specialty/dp/B000JN4COS/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1213330746&sr=8-1

Franco
06-13-2008, 02:38 PM
Further issue with with the hips and also lack of an arch. If he's taking a wider stance such as that he's missing out on the benefit of his body working more as unit, as opposed to relying more on certain individual parts to take the strain.

He's not keeping himself tight enough from the start, especially his abs. Either he has weak abdominals or he doesn't know how to use them to their full ability.

Phenom
06-14-2008, 10:50 AM
lulz at teh slap ghey

TwiloMike
06-23-2008, 07:03 AM
lulz at teh slap ghey

Funny use of English words there. ;)

ElayneTrakand
06-23-2008, 11:28 AM
Novice here so take what I say with a grain of salt, but shouldn't the upper back be more straight/flat than round?

mickyjune26
06-23-2008, 11:39 AM
I freakin laughed when I saw the slap. ROFL!!

It looked like a wide stance Romainian deadlift. But hey, if it works and you're not prone for injury using that method, go for it.

bjohnso
06-23-2008, 12:21 PM
Novice here so take what I say with a grain of salt, but shouldn't the upper back be more straight/flat than round?

Shoulders rounding shouldn't be a problem.

ZenMonkey
06-29-2008, 12:48 PM
I freakin laughed when I saw the slap. ROFL!!

It looked like a wide stance Romainian deadlift. But hey, if it works and you're not prone for injury using that method, go for it.

I agree it looks like a Romanian DL

bigsalts
06-29-2008, 09:00 PM
lulz at teh slap ghey

What the heck does that mean?

berfles
10-07-2008, 03:14 PM
Holy old thread bump, but I'm kind of glad it was bumped because I use a similar form. Seems like it's ok as long as you don't feel like you're injuring yourself.

fuzzbecool219
10-07-2008, 06:09 PM
that slap was the best

ru sayin hmd??

boomersooner
10-16-2008, 10:04 PM
he brought his back so that it was basically paralell to the ground

not great form, IMO