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MightyMaus
06-16-2008, 08:56 AM
I recently finished a 3 week clen cycle with great results - 4% drop in body fat.

Now I want to take it up a notch and add some Liquidex for the next clen cycle.

My plan is

week 1
20mg clen daily
1mg LD EOD

week 2
40 mg clen daily
2 mg LD EOD

week 3
20mg clen daily
3 mg LD EOD

week 4
4 mg LD EOD
Benadryl nightly to clean receptors out for clen reload

week 5
20mg clen daily
4mg LD EOD

week 6
40 mg clen daily
3 mg LD EOD

week 7
20mg clen daily
2 mg LD EOD

week 8
Benadryl nightly to clean receptors
1mg LD EOD


Can anyone suggest a better cycle? has anyone doen a cycle like this and what sort of results have you had?

Thanks!

RBB
06-16-2008, 09:39 AM
why do you want to add adex? that doesn't make any sense to me. and 4mg EOD? you definitely don't want to do that. are you referring to arimidex when you say liquidex?

MightyMaus
06-16-2008, 11:26 AM
why do you want to add adex? that doesn't make any sense to me. and 4mg EOD? you definitely don't want to do that. are you referring to arimidex when you say liquidex?

I'm referring to this product here:

ag-guys.com/store/product.php?productid=16135&cat=254

MightyMaus
06-16-2008, 11:55 AM
why do you want to add adex? that doesn't make any sense to me. and 4mg EOD? you definitely don't want to do that. are you referring to arimidex when you say liquidex?

it is my understanding from the reading I've done that LD drops your E levels and gives you a T level increase as a response. My intent is to create a mild anabolic effect in coordination with slightly increased strength and endurance to assist in cutting with the clen.

Am I mistaken in the effect I should see from the LD?

The above link to the product has a few links giving medical details.

Also, good write up on it here: isteroids.com/steroids/Arimidex-Liquidex.html

RBB
06-16-2008, 01:11 PM
it is my understanding from the reading I've done that LD drops your E levels and gives you a T level increase as a response. My intent is to create a mild anabolic effect in coordination with slightly increased strength and endurance to assist in cutting with the clen.

Am I mistaken in the effect I should see from the LD?

The above link to the product has a few links giving medical details.

Also, good write up on it here: isteroids.com/steroids/Arimidex-Liquidex.html

you're not necessarily mistaken. SERM's and AI's can cause a slight test increase, but honestly it's not enough to make using it worthwhile if that's the sole purpose you're using it. and 3-4g's of adex EOD is a hell of a lot. that's not going to do anything but kill your wallet. the most you'll see anyone using is .5mg EOD.

so, imo, if you're looking for an anabolic effect do yourself a favor and just get some gear. the adex isn't really going to do it for you.

MightyMaus
06-16-2008, 02:33 PM
you're not necessarily mistaken. SERM's and AI's can cause a slight test increase, but honestly it's not enough to make using it worthwhile if that's the sole purpose you're using it. and 3-4g's of adex EOD is a hell of a lot. that's not going to do anything but kill your wallet. the most you'll see anyone using is .5mg EOD.

so, imo, if you're looking for an anabolic effect do yourself a favor and just get some gear. the adex isn't really going to do it for you.

Would this setup make more sense?

Testabol Enenthate
Weeks 1 - 3 1.5 cc, injected once a week
Weeks 4 - 9 2.33 cc, injected once a week
Weeks 10-12 1.5 cc, injected once a week

Nolvadex
20mg a day, all 12 weeks

Vitamin B6
200mg every day for all 15 weeks


Clomid Post Cycle Therapy

Week 13
300 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg

Week 14
100 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg, 50 mg, 50 mg, 50 mg

Week 15
50 mg, 50 mg, 50 mg, 50 mg, 50 mg, 50 mg, 50 mg

Possibly add some Liquidex for weeks 13-15 and extend a microdose
through weeks 16-18

RBB
06-16-2008, 07:42 PM
yeah bro, that's what you need. assuming your test e is 250mg/ml you should just run 2cc's a week from the beginning. maybe frontload the first week if you want. what's the concentration of your gear? and don't run adex post cycle, it will inhibit recovery. nolva/clomid is all you need for PCT.

MightyMaus
06-16-2008, 08:09 PM
yeah bro, that's what you need. assuming your test e is 250mg/ml you should just run 2cc's a week from the beginning. maybe frontload the first week if you want. what's the concentration of your gear? and don't run adex post cycle, it will inhibit recovery. nolva/clomid is all you need for PCT.

The test I have my eye on is 250mg/ml.

I'm considering switching it to sustanon though. I have a cheap reliable source and the profile looks better to me than just plain test e.

Is that a good idea?

RBB
06-16-2008, 08:19 PM
The test I have my eye on is 250mg/ml.

I'm considering switching it to sustanon though. I have a cheap reliable source and the profile looks better to me than just plain test e.

Is that a good idea?

it doesn't really matter. either one is fine. i honestly don't think there's much advantage to sust, but whatever you like. keep in mind that sust will take longer to clear your system as well. you'll need to start pct about 3 weeks after your last shot instead of two.

MightyMaus
06-17-2008, 12:34 PM
it doesn't really matter. either one is fine. i honestly don't think there's much advantage to sust, but whatever you like. keep in mind that sust will take longer to clear your system as well. you'll need to start pct about 3 weeks after your last shot instead of two.

What would you recommend as PCT aside from the Clomid? Is there anything else I should do?

RBB
06-17-2008, 02:34 PM
i'd recommend nolva over clomid, but to each their own. you should recover using either of them. read the first cycle sticky if you haven't, mighty. you'll probably find some good info in there.

Hatred
06-17-2008, 05:23 PM
Yeah, RBB is a reliable source of info man.

I personally like Clomids for recovery better but have used both.