Please help fix my mistake

[tigerfan]

Let me start by saying that I am 28 and have lifting consistantly for about eleven years. The last few years I have really hit a plateau. I tried switching routines, diet, suppliments, you name it ive probably tried it. Through the advise of a local gym rat who is very well respected, I got on a cycle of Deca only (I can see the cringe on your faces). Its my ignorance for not researching, but I trusted the guy, And looking at his physique you could see why. I know now that this was a mistake so please save the tounge lashings. What I really need is some sound advise. Im on my 5th week at 450mg/week and I am starting to see good results. I am a little bloated but other than that, no side affects. I have no sexual problems, everything works just as good as it did when I was 20. My question is what to do now. Is it too late to add test? What pct should I use? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I only wish that I would have found out about this forum a couple of months ago.

[Hatred]

Switch from deca to test like...now. Get some HCG and clomids.

That **** can be in your system a looooong time. so stop now

If it were me I'd switch to a long ester TEstosterone at 500mg's a week.

[tigerfan]

It may take a couple of weeks to get my hands on test. How long should I cycle the test after being on deca for the last 5 weeks? When should I start pct?

[RBB]

most guys run a 12 week cycle their first time. tiger, i would drop the deca as soon as i got the test, frontload the test the first week and then run 500mg for the remainder of your cycle. so, if you get it at week 7, that'll be 5 weeks on the test. actually, that's not what i'd do, i'd probably run it longer, but it would be irresponsible for me to recommend that to you, lol.

start pct 2 weeks after your last shot of test.

[Big J]

These guys have already gave good advice. This is my first time to log on in quite a while. Deca will show up on drug test for around 18months after your LAST shot. Basically u can fail a test up to a year & half after you've quite takin it. Something to think about. It is irresponsible to recommend you take longer than 12 weeks on a cycle, but I suggest you go 15weeks. 5 weeks of test just aint right. You need at least 7 weeks. Get some clomid & nolvadex for PCT, and you will be fine. I used to frequently take 15week cycles with no ill side effects.

[tigerfan]

Sounds like very sound advise. I will get the test asap. As far as the clomid and nolvadex, how much do I take and for how long? Thanks for the help guys

[godofthunder]

What effects are there for using deca with out test?

[tigerfan]

Ive heard all kinds of stuff but have not experienced any of them. Mr. Happy not rising to attention is the main one. Im still hard as ever. I was told by my source that deca was the safest one to take. Ive since turned him on to this web site so that more people wont be misinformed.

I turned my source on to this website so that HE wont misinform anyone else. My post didnt come out the way that I ment it too.

[RBB]

Ive heard all kinds of stuff but have not experienced any of them. Mr. Happy not rising to attention is the main one. Im still hard as ever. I was told by my source that deca was the safest one to take. Ive since turned him on to this web site so that more people wont be misinformed.

i've never heard of anyone having any problems on 500mg's of test a week. maybe a pimple or two. possibly a bit of gyno if you're very prone to it. it's the way to go.

[tigerfan]

RBB, I took your advise and placed my test order. Hopefully it wont take too long. As far as PCT goes, what and how much should I take? Im hearing lots of different things. Nolvadex, Clomid, HCG, my mind is spinning in circles.

[tigerfan]

Ive heard all kinds of stuff but have not experienced any of them. Mr. Happy not rising to attention is the main one. Im still hard as ever. I was told by my source that deca was the safest one to take. Ive since turned him on to this web site so that more people wont be misinformed.

I turned my source on to this website so that HE wont misinform anyone else. My post didnt come out the way that I ment it too.

What I was trying to say was that I told my source about this web site so that he could get a better understanding of the process and not misinform anyone else the way he misinformed me.

[RBB]

RBB, I took your advise and placed my test order. Hopefully it wont take too long. As far as PCT goes, what and how much should I take? Im hearing lots of different things. Nolvadex, Clomid, HCG, my mind is spinning in circles.

either use nolva or clomid. nolva is 40/40/20/20, 10mg/day until you feel normal. i never use clomid so i don't know the protocol off hand, run a search and you'll find it.

hcg is optional and imo very beneficial. it should only be used during your cycle, 250iu every 3rd day. drop it once you begin pct.