View Full Version : What's your favorite "Non-Stim" Nitric Oxide Supplement?
ThunderCat30
06-19-2008, 01:07 PM
What's your favorite "Non-Stim" Nitric Oxide Supplement?
I've been using NeoGenix's Vaso Span and like it a lot. I've
made good gains with it. Not to mention the added benefit
in the bedroom with the ladies!!
Jaybird88
06-19-2008, 04:34 PM
Bad choice, topic wise, for this forum. With good reason to. Save your cash or buy some good protein with it. Its useless, imo.
Ultimate Nutrition's Horse power easily.
thewicked
06-20-2008, 04:45 PM
here's the problem with vasodialotors like non stimulated NO products..and NO product with a stimulant just negates itself and I feel that it's all in your head as far as the pump goes.
An NO product without a stim will granted dialate you out but yoru blood volume itself doesn't change... because it gives you more vaso space, the product gives you a drop in blood pressure. When it comes down to it yeah you get the vasodialation but because you've got a blood pressure drop, the same amount of blood gets into the area no matter what. If you're going all NO product..find one that has more NO product than stimulant to give you SOME advantage. The idea behidn the stimulant is to help increase the heart rate to allow in more blood MOVEMENT with a dialated circulatory system.
did that make any sense to anyone but me?
thewicked
06-20-2008, 04:46 PM
Bad choice, topic wise, for this forum. With good reason to. Save your cash or buy some good protein with it. Its useless, imo.
pretty much yeah...i'd invest in a good protien source or give ALN's RESULTS a try. It's been a fantastic performer for everyone on it so far.
Slim Schaedle
06-21-2008, 12:25 AM
here's the problem with vasodialotors like non stimulated NO products..and NO product with a stimulant just negates itself and I feel that it's all in your head as far as the pump goes.
An NO product without a stim will granted dialate you out but yoru blood volume itself doesn't change... because it gives you more vaso space, the product gives you a drop in blood pressure. When it comes down to it yeah you get the vasodialation but because you've got a blood pressure drop, the same amount of blood gets into the area no matter what. If you're going all NO product..find one that has more NO product than stimulant to give you SOME advantage. The idea behidn the stimulant is to help increase the heart rate to allow in more blood MOVEMENT with a dialated circulatory system.
did that make any sense to anyone but me?
I would say it only made sense to you, b/c quite a bit of it is incorrect.
:)
An NO precursor coupled with a stimulant does not result in cancellation of eachother.
Stimulants are included b/c most of the products are meant to be taken pre-workout, and the effects from pre-workout caffeine are obvious. The inclusion is simply a little extra thing to make the product more "lucrative" in a way you can physically feel.
If we are going to debate the use of NO precursors, pumps, etc.....then let's include products such as cialis and viagra since they work by the same concept. I don't see anyone saying those are pointless or worthless.
Some people will pay for a pump.
Some people will pay for an erection.
To each their own.
Also keep in mind the body produces its own NO in order to control vessel size or various reasons.
thewicked
06-22-2008, 06:56 PM
I would say it only made sense to you, b/c quite a bit of it is incorrect.
:)
An NO precursor coupled with a stimulant does not result in cancellation of eachother.
Stimulants are included b/c most of the products are meant to be taken pre-workout, and the effects from pre-workout caffeine are obvious. The inclusion is simply a little extra thing to make the product more "lucrative" in a way you can physically feel.
If we are going to debate the use of NO precursors, pumps, etc.....then let's include products such as cialis and viagra since they work by the same concept. I don't see anyone saying those are pointless or worthless.
Some people will pay for a pump.
Some people will pay for an erection.
To each their own.
Also keep in mind the body produces its own NO in order to control vessel size or various reasons.
then how is it that they don't cancel each other out? :confused:
ThunderCat30
06-22-2008, 09:07 PM
Thanks for the feedback!!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I
do respect that!!
For me individually, I can honestly say that I've
been much better off over all since I started taking
NO products. My favorite has been NeoGenix VasoSpan.
One thing I've began to notice with my 10yr supplement
experience is, the supplement will either work with the
individual, it won't, and placebo effect.
For the times a supplement works from person to person,
I think the cases where a particular supplement works could
largely be due to a defficiency in the individual.
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