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Lones Green
09-23-2008, 06:14 PM
another from PLwatch:

http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/770

My Grand for A Grand Challenge


This is an open challenge to anyone in the strength, fitness or just in the regular world. Be the first person to duplicate or beat my 1,000lb bottom position squat and Iíll give you $1,000 dollars.

Iíve debated on sending out this challenge for a while. Got advice from close friends on both directions, but I decided that it was something I wanted to do and something that I would respect of other people. You see I think that if you say you can do something then you ought to have the guts to put something behind it. Similarly if you donít then maybe you should shut up about it. So in the tradition of the old time strongmen, I challenge anybody in the world to duplicate or beat my 1,000lb bottom position squat.

Iíll make it very simple. You have to start at parallel, bar sitting on the pins of a rack and using a belt only, stand all the way up with 1,000lbs. I donít care what you weigh. I donít care what kind of plate, bar or rack you use, as long as it adds up to 1,000lbs. I donít care how ugly the lift is as long as nobody else touches you. Before you do the lift take a picture of your starting position from the side and send it to me. Weíll arrange for an independent person to witness and verify the starting height and relative authenticity of the plates and that you only use a belt. Then video tape the lift. For now, weíll set a preliminary cut off date of May 1, 2006. Thatíll give you 16 weeks to start with, more than the length of the average powerlifting cycle.

My only other condition is that you take a drug test and prove that youíre lifetime drug free. I know lots of guys who take roids and this is not a personal slap against them, but I do think it is wrong and does discount your lift. Again this is not meant to personally insult anyone, nor is this challenge. But this is my challenge and if you want to take it up you have to play by my rules. That means no drugs and if you do it Iíll give you $1,000.00.

When you open up to do something public like post a video of yourself performing a lift, you open up to a great deal of idiotic criticism. Thatís fine and I expect it. People have variously suggested all kinds of things about me and the lift that I have on my website, because itís easy to say anything about anyone behind a computer screen. One of the things thatís been said is that any big time lifter could duplicate the lift with little trouble. WellÖ hereís their chance. If they can Iíd be more than happy to see it. Iím even allowing for training time, even though the opinion seems to be among several mouthy critics that they wouldnít need it. Notice I said critics, because I have found almost universally that truly strong, hard training people are respectful and usually quite pleasant.

Iím willing to do something that almost no one else is willing to do. I believe in my training techniques enough that Iím putting money on the line to see if theyíre the best. Who else is willing to do that?

If as people have suggested that itís no big deal, then it ought to be easy for someone to walk up and take that money. All you gotta make is one lift.

People are going to say all kinds of stuff about this. Thatís fine. Let me tell you some of why Iím doing this. Because I honestly want to see if anyone else can do it, not to stroke my own ego. Because I think it is the most legitimate way to squat regardless of what anybody elseís rules or competitive organization says. Because I donít think competition would legitimize a lift or settle any kind of controversy. Because I want people to see that true drug free heavy lifting DOES exist. Because I also want people to see that you donít have to have on double suits and wraps to squat heavy. Because I donít normally acknowledge critics and I wonít acknowledge them on this, but this is my answer.

I hope that someone takes up the challenge. I think itíll be great for real lifting! Even though people have said some pretty nasty stuff about me, this is not intended to be disrespectful towards anyone, but as a challenge to bolster the strength world. Most of you reading this have probably seen the footage of this lift, if not itís on the front page of the website http://strongeman.com.

God bless and hope you all have a great new year.

Bud Jeffries


i don't really care about how $1,000 is not a lot of money, etc.

who do you guys think could do this? i need some time to think on this, but one person comes to mind who i think could come close right off the top of my head, James "Pitbull" Searcy. i've never seen raw strength like that guys before.

Chubrock
09-23-2008, 06:20 PM
Is there even a ****ing test that can show "lifetime" drug free? Seems like BS to me. Was he (Bud) tested at the time he did this feat of strength?

Travis Bell
09-23-2008, 06:30 PM
I'm pretty sure this challenge was issued like 2 years ago.

Personally I think there are quite a few guys out there who could do this. Its just nobody cares. Plus I'm not sure how reliable the payoff would be

Ben Moore
09-23-2008, 07:05 PM
I'm pretty sure this challenge was issued like 2 years ago.

Personally I think there are quite a few guys out there who could do this. Its just nobody cares. Plus I'm not sure how reliable the payoff would be

QFT...

WillNoble
09-23-2008, 07:12 PM
really who cares?


Last time I checked "Bottom Position Squatting" was not in any way a test of strength or ever used in competition.


How bout he just says: "Hey, Im strong and claim to be drug free, If you claim to be drug free too, then I challenge you to a battle of lifts that no one gives a **** about. If you win you get 1000$, Don't know when or how you'll get it, but hey you'll be an internet legend"

Lones Green
09-24-2008, 03:32 AM
I'm pretty sure this challenge was issued like 2 years ago.

Personally I think there are quite a few guys out there who could do this. Its just nobody cares. Plus I'm not sure how reliable the payoff would be

LOL, this is true.

McLaughlin
09-24-2008, 04:22 AM
I could do that no problem....

In a few years maybe...

Or never...

Detard
09-24-2008, 10:44 AM
Submitted by jon on January 4, 2006 - 9:24am.

ehubbard
09-24-2008, 11:06 AM
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See for yourself. Red lights from my keyboard.

WillNoble
09-24-2008, 11:08 AM
that was....



that was ehhhhh....



wow

Lones Green
09-24-2008, 12:03 PM
someone must have updated the thread, i thought it was new. i must say it takes some very brute strength to do that...i wish there was a video from the side.

Twirl
09-24-2008, 12:27 PM
impressive that's for sure, but..... i thought the squat was a 2 part exercise? just pushing it us is amazing but, is it considered a squat?

nhlfan
09-24-2008, 01:52 PM
It's a bottom position squat. It's a competition to see if anyone else can do 1000lbs. It's meant to be fun; why not have fun with the strength you've worked so hard for?

I know it's an old contest, but on this forum, I'd think jon bernor and kingkong would be up to it

Travis Bell
09-24-2008, 02:00 PM
Problem with something like that is a) risk of injury on something that has nothing to do with a meet and b)this would take some training, time away from training your regular squat

It actually wasn't meant to be fun. Bud Jefferies got mad that everyone was not giving him the credit he felt he deserved for the lift.

Its a cool lift, no doubt, but its not jaw dropping amazing whoa bud is the man type lift. Had it been full range this would be different.

nhlfan
09-24-2008, 02:01 PM
Problem with something like that is a) risk of injury on something that has nothing to do with a meet and b)this would take some training, time away from training your regular squat

It actually wasn't meant to be fun. Bud Jefferies got mad that everyone was not giving him the credit he felt he deserved for the lift.

Its a cool lift, no doubt, but its not jaw dropping amazing whoa bud is the man type lift. Had it been full range this would be different.

You make good points

Brad08
09-24-2008, 02:37 PM
Had it been full range this would be different.

?? Bottom-up squatting is much more difficult, and this was not a suited lift, was it?

Travis Bell
09-24-2008, 03:19 PM
nope not suited.

I'd disagree with you on which is easier. Its very similar to benching off pins, even if the pin height was only an inch or two off your chest.

To be honest if it was easier to full squat 1000lbs I think he'd have done it in competition

WillNoble
09-24-2008, 03:31 PM
To be honest if it was easier to full squat 1000lbs I think he'd have done it in competition



agreed

HP666
09-24-2008, 04:04 PM
Is there even a ****ing test that can show "lifetime" drug free? Seems like BS to me. Was he (Bud) tested at the time he did this feat of strength?

There is an orginization in the Northeast/East, I forget at the moment, that is drug free and also has a "lifetime" drug free division. They do the normal testing as well as Polygraph testing as far as the lifetime thing.

Notorious
09-24-2008, 04:06 PM
?? Bottom-up squatting is much more difficult, and this was not a suited lift, was it?

It seems harder because you don't get any stretch reflex, but when you have 1000lbs on your back the down part HAS to take something out of you.

Brad08
09-24-2008, 04:07 PM
I'd disagree with you on which is easier.

Huh. I wouldn't have thought that. I've only messed around with pin squats a time or two and they were damn hard.

PriestCometh
09-24-2008, 05:40 PM
Uh, Why doesnt he just do a full range squat with a grand?
Even if it was with gear?

WillKuenzel
09-24-2008, 07:01 PM
I'm not sure that was a squat but more of a side effect from the epileptic seizure.

Twirl
09-24-2008, 10:54 PM
I'm not sure that was a squat but more of a side effect from the epileptic seizure.

lol, someone had to say it

elitepler
09-25-2008, 05:16 AM
Bud is just a circus lifter. There is another younger version of him that has been posting videos for some time but cannot seem to ever put a total together. If your so strong, then come beat the other guys in your weight class at a REAL meet.

Invain
09-25-2008, 06:17 AM
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See for yourself. Red lights from my keyboard.

Lol! I don't think I'd be that excited if I won a million dollars.

Leeman
09-25-2008, 08:57 PM
Bud is just a circus lifter. There is another younger version of him that has been posting videos for some time but cannot seem to ever put a total together. If your so strong, then come beat the other guys in your weight class at a REAL meet.

whos the younger guy?

Stumprrp
09-27-2008, 08:57 AM
personally, the bottom position is harder, i dont care what anyone says, it is. no one squats 1000 RAW yet up and down, i can bet my money that bud could squat 850-900 no problem, hes not a powerlifter hes a strongman and does a variety of fighting

Ben Moore
09-27-2008, 09:11 AM
personally, the bottom position is harder, i dont care what anyone says, it is. no one squats 1000 RAW yet up and down, i can bet my money that bud could squat 850-900 no problem, hes not a powerlifter hes a strongman and does a variety of fighting

Not a strongman in the competing sense - just clarifying

bill
09-27-2008, 09:21 AM
personally, the bottom position is harder, i dont care what anyone says, it is. no one squats 1000 RAW yet up and down, i can bet my money that bud could squat 850-900 no problem, hes not a powerlifter hes a strongman and does a variety of fighting

Fighting? I would like to see some of that. I can't imagine him not gassing in 1min.

Travis Bell
09-27-2008, 11:27 AM
personally, the bottom position is harder, i dont care what anyone says, it is. no one squats 1000 RAW yet up and down, i can bet my money that bud could squat 850-900 no problem, hes not a powerlifter hes a strongman and does a variety of fighting

last I checked 850-900 is still less than 1,000. If its so much easier to do a full squat he'd have done it. He didn't.

mickyjune26
09-27-2008, 11:58 AM
From my view on the vid, he looked 4 inches (or more) above parallel by the time the bar left the pins. Stronger than me, so that's all I'll say for now.

smitsky
09-28-2008, 07:04 PM
There is an orginization in the Northeast/East, I forget at the moment, that is drug free and also has a "lifetime" drug free division. They do the normal testing as well as Polygraph testing as far as the lifetime thing.

It's the WNPF. I lift in the Fed.

I don't think there is any conclusive test to determine if one is lifetime drug free. Someone please feel free to correct me if they have better info.