PDA

View Full Version : The Inevitable...GEAR!!!!



ThePunisherson
11-11-2008, 09:38 PM
So I would like to dedicate this whole thread to gear discussion, as in what people have tried and what they liked and didn't like etc. And also comment about the certain questions I have about certain items, if you have tried it and how it compares to the other stuff I mention.

So here is a list of gear to keep in mind....

metal pro squatter
metal ace pro squatter
metal pro briefs
metal ace briefs
metal viking briefs
metal pro bash bench shirt
metal viking bench shirt
metal pro denim bench shirt

IFP metal gear

metal king presser
metal king bencher
metal king x-type
metal king squatter
metal king squatter v type

Karin klein double denim suits
karin klein double denim shirts
karin klein double denim briefs

ginny canvas suits
ginny canvas briefs
ginny double denim bench shirts
ginny triple denim bench shirts

frantz excalibur canvas squat suit(i think its actually denim!!)
Denim shirts, two ply and three ply (I heard their denim bench shirts stink though)
and their briefs are pretty good

Inzer trx
Inzer hardcore (single and double ply)
Inzer fusion
Inzer leviathan
Inzer t-rex
inzer phenom (single and double)
inzer rage x (single and double)
inzer super phenom
inzer super duper phenom
inzer double denims
inzer predator briefs
inzer groove briefs

lastly, titan hahaha

centurion nxg super + reg stance and wide stance
dual quad nxg super +
boss suit (nxg super + 2 or 3 ply laminated together)
boss briefs (nxg super + laminated together)
boss shirt (nxg super + laminated together)
f6 bench shirt (double and single ply)
katana bench shirt (double and single ply)
fury bench shirt (double and single ply)
super katana- double and single
super training cut katana- (single)
ANYBODY HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THE KATANA A/S AND S/S, WHATS THE DIFFERENCE AND WHICH ONE IS BETTER?
fury bench shirt (double and single ply)

THE QUESTIONS I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS COMPARING...

GINNY PHILLIPS DOUBLE OR TRIPLE PLY CANVAS TO THE INZER LEVIATHAN
BOSS SUIT VS. ACE PRO SQUATTER
RAGE X VS. SUPER PHENOM VS. SUPER DUPER PHENOM
ANYONE WITH EXPERIENCE WITH A BOSS SHIRT!!!!
SINGLE VS. DOUBLE PLY KATANA
PREDATOR BRIEFS VS. ACE BRIEFS

Here we go....

I go back and forth between TITAN and INZER gear, some say the titan fabric is beefier and better than inzer, but it seems like all the records and the majority of lifters use inzer, but they are usually the ones sponsored by them...and for the last point, I know a lot of the sponsored guys on here are going to support their brand and say its the best, but I don't want people to just say its good because they are sponsored, I want them to say its better because they have experience with other stuff, etc. THANKS

Travis Bell
11-11-2008, 10:04 PM
Wow! That was quite a post LOL

I'm not sponsored by either companies, but I will say The Super Duper Phenom trumps all. By far the best material IMO. I've never worn a Boss shirt, bout the only Titan shirt I haven't tried, but most I've known who've tried one said it was just way too hard to learn and I'm not sure I've heard of anyone touching very well in one LOL

I've worn Karin's, Titan, Inzer, Metal and Inzer is really the best one.

The squat suits I'm not an authority on, but the Ginnys are great, but a little advanced. Most of our guys wear Inzer Levithan's. Briefs are all over the place. You're going to have to try some and see which works best for you

ThePunisherson
11-11-2008, 10:13 PM
Wow! That was quite a post LOL

I'm not sponsored by either companies, but I will say The Super Duper Phenom trumps all. By far the best material IMO. I've never worn a Boss shirt, bout the only Titan shirt I haven't tried, but most I've known who've tried one said it was just way too hard to learn and I'm not sure I've heard of anyone touching very well in one LOL

I've worn Karin's, Titan, Inzer, Metal and Inzer is really the best one.

The squat suits I'm not an authority on, but the Ginnys are great, but a little advanced. Most of our guys wear Inzer Levithan's. Briefs are all over the place. You're going to have to try some and see which works best for you

HAHAHA thanks man it was definitely a post lol, sweet, thats awesome man that you have all that experience with the gear, thats pretty sweet, you even tried the single and double ply katanas? haha yeah I figured the boss shirt was going to be crazy as **** and hard ass hell to learn especially when people are getting a lot more out of the phenoms...yeah I noticed that, a lot of guys love the Leviathan it seems like a pretty bad ass suit. I am hoping to try all of it one day.

Lones Green
11-12-2008, 03:22 AM
the poster mikesbench has a BOSS shirt on here. hopefully he'll comment.

i have a super phenom but have no benched in it enough yet to form an opinion.

frantz briefs are great for starters. other than that i'd go with pro briefs or viking briefs. vikings are what i've always worn, i love them. they fit me big and still give me tons of support.

the pro squatter is also very nice. i have velcro straps on mine, gives me some great pop.

the king sumo deadlifter is also one of the best DLing suits out there.

my first suit was the v-type squatter, it was a pretty good little first suit. learned it by myself, but it ended up ripping a bit at the hip.

Travis Bell
11-12-2008, 04:54 AM
you even tried the single and double ply katanas?

Well I've worn two of them, I know one was a double, but I'm not sure about the other. It may have just been a bigger double ply. I just felt like it would really start locking up from the start. What a pain to touch. Joe Mazza seems to have it figured out though LOL

Ryano
11-12-2008, 05:38 AM
Since I'm a benchonly guy and sponsored by Titan, the only comparison I can give is the single v. double F6 or Katana shirts. I think the best shirt Titan has is the Super F6, single ply. I'm getting about 250# carryover out of it. I have a loose regular single ply Katana I get about 200# out of. This shirt, I can put on myself and will be opening in it this week at WABDL Worlds with 300Kg. I have three double ply Katana's. One open back/grid stitched, one closed back/grid stitched and one closed back plain. I have yet to get a good lift in a meet with any of them. I did touch 325Kg and locked it out with the closed back non grid, but got called for a dip(I later got this weight in a single).

Double ply F6 is hard to break in, but once it's there is a real good shirt.

Basically, the double Katana's are REAL hard to break in. Way to much shirt for most people. I don't have a BOSS, but MasterMonster has one. I don't think he has ever gotten a successfull lift in it. Single Super F6's are great shirts.

Matthew White
11-12-2008, 06:26 AM
Question about the briefs, what kind of carryover do you guys see out of the different types of briefs you use?

drew
11-12-2008, 06:34 AM
Love Inzer bench shirt, hate their squat suits.
Love Metal squat suit, hate their bench shirts.

Reko
11-12-2008, 06:34 AM
I wear frantz double ply poly briefs. about 4-5 years old, worn every squat session haha.
I get a little bit out of them, not a whole lot though I couldn't tell you how much because I never go without them! I can still get to parallel/low box with just the bar, fwiw.

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 09:30 AM
the poster mikesbench has a BOSS shirt on here. hopefully he'll comment.

i have a super phenom but have no benched in it enough yet to form an opinion.

frantz briefs are great for starters. other than that i'd go with pro briefs or viking briefs. vikings are what i've always worn, i love them. they fit me big and still give me tons of support.

the pro squatter is also very nice. i have velcro straps on mine, gives me some great pop.

the king sumo deadlifter is also one of the best DLing suits out there.

my first suit was the v-type squatter, it was a pretty good little first suit. learned it by myself, but it ended up ripping a bit at the hip.

I think that is what I am going to do, start out with pro briefs and a metal pro squatter and then go from there. I wish I could pull sumo but I just suck ass at it compared to conventional, it is so much easier than sumo, I have no power off the floor, 515 sumo is my best and 550 conventional is my best. You ever try the king material, I hear its not bad?

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 09:35 AM
Well I've worn two of them, I know one was a double, but I'm not sure about the other. It may have just been a bigger double ply. I just felt like it would really start locking up from the start. What a pain to touch. Joe Mazza seems to have it figured out though LOL

Yeah I can only imagine how hard it is to touch in one of those, I have a single ply katana a/s size 46, I am a 242 so this thing is pretty tight, I think I get around 125 or so out of it right now, I have only worn it 10 times or so, thats all the bench shirt experience I have, but I have to have at least 75 pounds over my raw max on there just to get it to touch, it freaking takes forever, I literally pull the weight down, I don't know if your supposed to do that but thats the only way it will work. hahahahah yeah I think Joe Mazza has that shirt mastered, he might be ready to try that boss shirt haha.

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 09:39 AM
Since I'm a benchonly guy and sponsored by Titan, the only comparison I can give is the single v. double F6 or Katana shirts. I think the best shirt Titan has is the Super F6, single ply. I'm getting about 250# carryover out of it. I have a loose regular single ply Katana I get about 200# out of. This shirt, I can put on myself and will be opening in it this week at WABDL Worlds with 300Kg. I have three double ply Katana's. One open back/grid stitched, one closed back/grid stitched and one closed back plain. I have yet to get a good lift in a meet with any of them. I did touch 325Kg and locked it out with the closed back non grid, but got called for a dip(I later got this weight in a single).

Double ply F6 is hard to break in, but once it's there is a real good shirt.

Basically, the double Katana's are REAL hard to break in. Way to much shirt for most people. I don't have a BOSS, but MasterMonster has one. I don't think he has ever gotten a successfull lift in it. Single Super F6's are great shirts.

Damn so you got 325KG later on in a single ply katana over your closed back non grid double ply katana? Holy crap...what exactly is a super f6 single ply? Oh really, I haven't heard much about double ply f6's, I am thinking about buying an F6 single ply though and compare it to the katana. Wow, sounds like that BOSS shirt might be a little too hard...

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 09:40 AM
Love Inzer bench shirt, hate their squat suits.
Love Metal squat suit, hate their bench shirts.

hahaha nice, you ever use a Leviathan, I think I have only heard good things about them....yeah you don't see a lot of metal shirts unless they are sponsored by them or something, but I have been seeing a lot of metal suits, haha thats for damn sure.

Jon Elick
11-12-2008, 02:15 PM
I've used Karin's, Inzer, and Titan....sponsored by each at some point (currently Ken Anderson/Titan). My experience is with Karin's DD, Rage/RageX/Dbl RageX, F6, Dbl F6, Katana, Dbl Katana. I can say without a doubt I get more from Titan gear. I feel safer in it. The material & stitching doesn't creak or pop or feel like it's gonna blow. I ripped every RageX and Karin's denims I ever had. I actually went out and bought my first Titan shirt while I was with another company because I got tired of dealing with rips.
I didn't think there was much difference in learning the Dbl Katana or single Katana. Once I learned the single, all I needed for the double was just to add more weight. The groove felt the same. I get 150-175 from my single and 225-250 from my double. The grid-stitch is key to keeping the plys working together and it helps reduce stretching.

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 03:10 PM
I've used Karin's, Inzer, and Titan....sponsored by each at some point (currently Ken Anderson/Titan). My experience is with Karin's DD, Rage/RageX/Dbl RageX, F6, Dbl F6, Katana, Dbl Katana. I can say without a doubt I get more from Titan gear. I feel safer in it. The material & stitching doesn't creak or pop or feel like it's gonna blow. I ripped every RageX and Karin's denims I ever had. I actually went out and bought my first Titan shirt while I was with another company because I got tired of dealing with rips.
I didn't think there was much difference in learning the Dbl Katana or single Katana. Once I learned the single, all I needed for the double was just to add more weight. The groove felt the same. I get 150-175 from my single and 225-250 from my double. The grid-stitch is key to keeping the plys working together and it helps reduce stretching.

Damn man, you ever hear of the boss shirt, that might suit you well.....I figured all you really had to do was add weight, I mean it sounds ******ed and too easy but thats what I did with my single katana, my buddy was like 455 is going to be too heavy try to touch 405, well 10 years later it finally touched and a week later I tried 455 and blew it up faster than the 405, so I could definitely see that.

Lones Green
11-12-2008, 03:14 PM
I think that is what I am going to do, start out with pro briefs and a metal pro squatter and then go from there. I wish I could pull sumo but I just suck ass at it compared to conventional, it is so much easier than sumo, I have no power off the floor, 515 sumo is my best and 550 conventional is my best. You ever try the king material, I hear its not bad?

re-read my post, i stated i have a king sumo deadlift suit

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 03:36 PM
re-read my post, i stated i have a king sumo deadlift suit

hahaah my bad man, I am a dumbass

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 03:39 PM
Wow! That was quite a post LOL

I'm not sponsored by either companies, but I will say The Super Duper Phenom trumps all. By far the best material IMO. I've never worn a Boss shirt, bout the only Titan shirt I haven't tried, but most I've known who've tried one said it was just way too hard to learn and I'm not sure I've heard of anyone touching very well in one LOL

I've worn Karin's, Titan, Inzer, Metal and Inzer is really the best one.

The squat suits I'm not an authority on, but the Ginnys are great, but a little advanced. Most of our guys wear Inzer Levithan's. Briefs are all over the place. You're going to have to try some and see which works best for you

Isn't the super phenom and super duper phenom made with hardcore material???

Ryano
11-12-2008, 03:49 PM
Damn so you got 325KG later on in a single ply katana over your closed back non grid double ply katana? Holy crap...what exactly is a super f6 single ply? Oh really, I haven't heard much about double ply f6's, I am thinking about buying an F6 single ply though and compare it to the katana. Wow, sounds like that BOSS shirt might be a little too hard...

I did the 325Kg in a single ply Super F6. It's an F6 made of the Katana material, with a scoop neck & reinforced seams. I have two of them and will be using one for my closing shirt this weekend. 330Kg is my goal. I hit 725 in the gym three weeks ago in one.

If you have a single Katana, I would stick with that for now, if I were you. Just give it some time. They do stretch over time. If it only takes 75# over your raw max to touch, it may be to loose. A two ply F6 is also a good shirt, but takes time to break in. Good luck.

rbtrout
11-12-2008, 04:06 PM
I got an Inzer squat suit, but I really don't like it. I don't know if it's because I'm not used to it or haven't broken it in or what. Every time I wear it, I feel uncomfortable. I squat better without it. Suggestions?
The Inzer squat shoes are awesome.

mikesbench
11-12-2008, 04:08 PM
I know people are curious about the BOSS shirt, I only have a few minutes right now; but I had one (2 ply, closed back). It was a vry tough shirt to touch in, basically I could force a touch but ad nothing off my chestafter all the effort to get down, and it was actually no an extremely tight shirt. I like a lot of pop off the chest so I decided it wasn't the shirt for me and sold it to a buddy that seems to like it so far. I currently us a 3 1/2 year old rage-x and just can't seem to get a shirt I like any better. Tried a newer rage-x, but I thnk I need to go a size bigger since my old one must be kinda stretched out. To give an idea in the BOSS it took me 535 to get down and I couldn't press it; my old rage-x I can touch about 495 and I've benched 600 in it.

Travis Bell
11-12-2008, 04:19 PM
Isn't the super phenom and super duper phenom made with hardcore material???

No not really but I guess it depends on what level your at training wise

Travis Bell
11-12-2008, 04:30 PM
I've used Karin's, Inzer, and Titan....sponsored by each at some point (currently Ken Anderson/Titan). My experience is with Karin's DD, Rage/RageX/Dbl RageX, F6, Dbl F6, Katana, Dbl Katana. I can say without a doubt I get more from Titan gear. I feel safer in it. The material & stitching doesn't creak or pop or feel like it's gonna blow. I ripped every RageX and Karin's denims I ever had. I actually went out and bought my first Titan shirt while I was with another company because I got tired of dealing with rips.
I didn't think there was much difference in learning the Dbl Katana or single Katana. Once I learned the single, all I needed for the double was just to add more weight. The groove felt the same. I get 150-175 from my single and 225-250 from my double. The grid-stitch is key to keeping the plys working together and it helps reduce stretching.


Thats very interesting Jon, seriously. I guess this proves the point that different people will bench differently in different shirts. I blew out almost every titan I owned (bout 6 of them) one of which blowouts caused me a little bit of injury. I got squished with 520 (LOL it was when I was a 198er and it was a single ply) after the shirt gave way about half way up. That was the last Titan I owned. After that I went to Karins. I have ripped my Karins once, but after a small patch, its never given me trouble. Great shirt to learn double ply in.

Lones Green
11-12-2008, 05:32 PM
i've never seen a shirt give half way up, all the blowouts i've seen are trying to touch. crazy stuff.

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 05:42 PM
I did the 325Kg in a single ply Super F6. It's an F6 made of the Katana material, with a scoop neck & reinforced seams. I have two of them and will be using one for my closing shirt this weekend. 330Kg is my goal. I hit 725 in the gym three weeks ago in one.

If you have a single Katana, I would stick with that for now, if I were you. Just give it some time. They do stretch over time. If it only takes 75# over your raw max to touch, it may be to loose. A two ply F6 is also a good shirt, but takes time to break in. Good luck.

Ok cool will do, you should get a super f6 double ply or a custom boss shirt, I bet that would be pretty bad ass, I wonder how Kennelly would do if he used Titan, like better or worse if he had some practice with these shirts?? something to think about.....thanks man.

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 05:45 PM
I know people are curious about the BOSS shirt, I only have a few minutes right now; but I had one (2 ply, closed back). It was a vry tough shirt to touch in, basically I could force a touch but ad nothing off my chestafter all the effort to get down, and it was actually no an extremely tight shirt. I like a lot of pop off the chest so I decided it wasn't the shirt for me and sold it to a buddy that seems to like it so far. I currently us a 3 1/2 year old rage-x and just can't seem to get a shirt I like any better. Tried a newer rage-x, but I thnk I need to go a size bigger since my old one must be kinda stretched out. To give an idea in the BOSS it took me 535 to get down and I couldn't press it; my old rage-x I can touch about 495 and I've benched 600 in it.

Holy **** man, I guess its just too much, I heard they will pretty much last forever because they don't stretch...does anybody use them in competition that does pretty well, doesn't scott sceppe use one I think?

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 05:46 PM
No not really but I guess it depends on what level your at training wise

haha Travis I think you made me more confused haha, is it the PGX stuff or PXG like whatever the material the rage x is made out of?

Travis Bell
11-12-2008, 07:52 PM
You asked about the Super Phenom and the Super Duper Phenom

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 09:07 PM
You asked about the Super Phenom and the Super Duper Phenom

hahaha yeah, but what is the material they use to make those shirts?

Travis Bell
11-12-2008, 09:08 PM
oh I gottcha. I thought you were just commenting that the shirts themselves were super hardcore, which while they are very techincal shirts, they aren't had to learn if you're smart.

I don't know that Inzer has named the material they are made out of

ThePunisherson
11-12-2008, 09:11 PM
oh I gottcha. I thought you were just commenting that the shirts themselves were super hardcore, which while they are very techincal shirts, they aren't had to learn if you're smart.

I don't know that Inzer has named the material they are made out of

Oh ok cool, thats alright, yeah I can only imagine how technical they are, I'm sure your technique has to be perfect in every way.

Chris Smith
11-12-2008, 11:30 PM
I have been around for a good while, and have used alot of different shirts. Started with an Inzer HD Blast shirt for my very first meet in 1997 and benched 370, and as of this year, have been using the Katana double ply, and benched 730 at 220 and 749 weighing 225. Chronologically, after the HD Blast shirt, I have tried Inzer single ply denim, which blew out all the time, Inzer Double ply Denim (1999 or so), which was a great shirt at the time, then went to a Karin DD, which I felt was a great shirt--I used her shirts for about 4 or 5 years and did extremely well. The new generation of Poly's were coming out--I tried the Rage X Double ply, and I personally didn't like the way the shirt felt--it felt like all the weight and pressure of the shirt was in one small line, behind my arm. The denim felt like even pressure in the chest panel, and behind my whole arm. I wanted to try the poly's again, and after talking with Jon Elick, I decided to purchase a Double Ply Katana. In my opinion, it feels alot like the denim, but more carryover throughout the range of motion. The Katana is a bitch to touch in--I will admit that. You have to have great technique if the shirt is really tight. Thank god I have a good coach (Gritter) to keep me in line and make sure my set-up and technique is up to snuff. That is my unbiased opinion and experience with the shirts, and I am not a sponsored lifter. I plan on trying a Super Duper Phenom in the near future--My training partner has one, and I should be able to squeeze my fat ass into it.

shields
11-13-2008, 07:37 AM
I have used an inzer hd blast shirt back in the day when that was basiclly all there was, i did do my first 600 pound bench in this shirt though. these shirts were ok. actually I am lying, the old inzer shirts hurt like hell, cut you up like crazy and made your arms go numb. you guys that have only used the newer floppy, opened back shirts have no idea how good you have it.

I switched to titan because I like to try new things and have had great luck. I had one of the first fury shirts in the old nxg material and it pretty much sucked and took like 10 weeks to get. I got a newer fury with the nxg+ and it is a good shirt. I did 660 in that shirt back several years ago. I latter switched to the f6. the f6 is a great shirt and my best contest in a full meet is 700 at around 285bwt, this was number one on powerlifting watch last year. I still love this shirt, but will probably get a new super katana soon.

I also got a double ply katana grid stitch. It was a little big on me but I have done 755 in an unsanctioned contest with it. I recently got it altered with the sleves shortened and taken in and this thing is now a beast. In training I did 815x2 almost touching and then 815x1 very easy. I can probably do around 525 or so raw to give you a reference. the double is a beast to touch the second set with 815, maybe, barly touched.

just an aside observation. I have seen a dramatic drop off in busted shirts at meets and also on the face plant bar dumps that were so common a couple of years ago. better shirts? better training?

ThePunisherson
11-13-2008, 11:20 AM
I have been around for a good while, and have used alot of different shirts. Started with an Inzer HD Blast shirt for my very first meet in 1997 and benched 370, and as of this year, have been using the Katana double ply, and benched 730 at 220 and 749 weighing 225. Chronologically, after the HD Blast shirt, I have tried Inzer single ply denim, which blew out all the time, Inzer Double ply Denim (1999 or so), which was a great shirt at the time, then went to a Karin DD, which I felt was a great shirt--I used her shirts for about 4 or 5 years and did extremely well. The new generation of Poly's were coming out--I tried the Rage X Double ply, and I personally didn't like the way the shirt felt--it felt like all the weight and pressure of the shirt was in one small line, behind my arm. The denim felt like even pressure in the chest panel, and behind my whole arm. I wanted to try the poly's again, and after talking with Jon Elick, I decided to purchase a Double Ply Katana. In my opinion, it feels alot like the denim, but more carryover throughout the range of motion. The Katana is a bitch to touch in--I will admit that. You have to have great technique if the shirt is really tight. Thank god I have a good coach (Gritter) to keep me in line and make sure my set-up and technique is up to snuff. That is my unbiased opinion and experience with the shirts, and I am not a sponsored lifter. I plan on trying a Super Duper Phenom in the near future--My training partner has one, and I should be able to squeeze my fat ass into it.

Awesome post man I appreciate it, it seems like the Titan has a lot of people using their gear, I know they definitely make some awesome gear. Let me know when you try out the super duper phenom, I heard they stretch out like mofo and you need to get a new one by the end of a bench cycle.

ThePunisherson
11-13-2008, 11:22 AM
I have used an inzer hd blast shirt back in the day when that was basiclly all there was, i did do my first 600 pound bench in this shirt though. these shirts were ok. actually I am lying, the old inzer shirts hurt like hell, cut you up like crazy and made your arms go numb. you guys that have only used the newer floppy, opened back shirts have no idea how good you have it.

I switched to titan because I like to try new things and have had great luck. I had one of the first fury shirts in the old nxg material and it pretty much sucked and took like 10 weeks to get. I got a newer fury with the nxg+ and it is a good shirt. I did 660 in that shirt back several years ago. I latter switched to the f6. the f6 is a great shirt and my best contest in a full meet is 700 at around 285bwt, this was number one on powerlifting watch last year. I still love this shirt, but will probably get a new super katana soon.

I also got a double ply katana grid stitch. It was a little big on me but I have done 755 in an unsanctioned contest with it. I recently got it altered with the sleves shortened and taken in and this thing is now a beast. In training I did 815x2 almost touching and then 815x1 very easy. I can probably do around 525 or so raw to give you a reference. the double is a beast to touch the second set with 815, maybe, barly touched.

just an aside observation. I have seen a dramatic drop off in busted shirts at meets and also on the face plant bar dumps that were so common a couple of years ago. better shirts? better training?

Thats sweet man, damn 815 for 2 is no joke...I think it is both, better shirts and better training to be honest.

ThePunisherson
11-13-2008, 01:48 PM
Anybody else have any gear experiences they would like to share.....