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Erik 23
12-02-2008, 05:07 PM
Im doing the Coan Phillipi Deadlift Routine This is a Rack Pull from this week. And no ,I didnt mean to drop the weight like that on the second rep.
The box makes it about Equal to off the floor height.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4-AiLBa3GQ

Ben Moore
12-02-2008, 05:16 PM
What's the point in pulling out of a rack on the box? The purpose of those rack pulls are for top end work if I recall

Travis Bell
12-02-2008, 05:16 PM
Good stuff! Any reason you don't just do it off the floor if the box makes it equal to the floor?

Chalky Palms
12-02-2008, 05:20 PM
Good stuff! Any reason you don't just do it off the floor if the box makes it equal to the floor?

that's what I was wondering, nice pull though either way.

Erik 23
12-02-2008, 05:20 PM
Good stuff! Any reason you don't just do it off the floor if the box makes it equal to the floor?

Thanx Travis yeah this is at another gym that was way too crowded so i just did them in the rack that day.And at first i was just going to do them out of the lowest pin in the rack then i just decided to do them off the box instead to replicate pulling off the floor instead.

Lones Green
12-02-2008, 05:36 PM
great strength! get rid of them straps though :evillaugh:

Travis Bell
12-02-2008, 05:49 PM
Thanx Travis yeah this is at another gym that was way too crowded so i just did them in the rack that day.And at first i was just going to do them out of the lowest pin in the rack then i just decided to do them off the box instead to replicate pulling off the floor instead.

Right, but all you have to do is just put the bar outside the rack, in the front. Plus that way you don't bend the pins when you come down. Just tryin to understand what you're shootin for here.


great strength! get rid of them straps though :evillaugh:

Agree with this. Straps, for a powerlifter tend to more handicap you than enable you.

Erik 23
12-02-2008, 05:55 PM
great strength! get rid of them straps though :evillaugh:Thanx man i probally will get rid of them for my max single in a few weeks.


Right, but all you have to do is just put the bar outside the rack, in the front. Plus that way you don't bend the pins when you come down. Just tryin to understand what you're shootin for here.



Agree with this. Straps, for a powerlifter tend to more handicap you than enable you. Gotcha yeah ill probally do that next time.I started using the straps recently again after i seen that ano turitan guy tear his bicep. From what i read doing double overhand is a little easier on the biceps then over under.

Chris Rodgers
12-03-2008, 03:47 PM
What is your max pull from the floor?

I would say what you did is good for an ME type movement, but definitely doesn't duplicate pulling off the floor. I'd say that was a few inches up, plus it comes off the pins differently than it does off the floor. I'd be willing to bet you bent the pins and the bar on that bounce, lol.

Also, are you going to compete? If so I would make sure to work on a smoother lockout(no hitch). You are definitely bull strong, just need to clean it up a bit.

Erik 23
12-03-2008, 09:45 PM
What is your max pull from the floor?

I would say what you did is good for an ME type movement, but definitely doesn't duplicate pulling off the floor. I'd say that was a few inches up, plus it comes off the pins differently than it does off the floor. I'd be willing to bet you bent the pins and the bar on that bounce, lol.

Also, are you going to compete? If so I would make sure to work on a smoother lockout(no hitch). You are definitely bull strong, just need to clean it up a bit.

Thanx Chris My max off the floor is 745. and yes i am going to compete but just not right now.and yeah i thought the bar was going to bend also but it didnt lol Thanx for the advice take care.

Hazerboy
12-04-2008, 02:31 AM
Damn eric and I thought you were a bench specialist hah.

Lones Green
12-04-2008, 03:13 AM
What is your max pull from the floor?

I would say what you did is good for an ME type movement, but definitely doesn't duplicate pulling off the floor. I'd say that was a few inches up, plus it comes off the pins differently than it does off the floor. I'd be willing to bet you bent the pins and the bar on that bounce, lol.

Also, are you going to compete? If so I would make sure to work on a smoother lockout(no hitch). You are definitely bull strong, just need to clean it up a bit.

good post Chris. hitching is a nasty habit :clown:

i don't blame you for being scared after seeing Ano's video, LOL

Erik 23
12-04-2008, 05:01 AM
Damn eric and I thought you were a bench specialist hah.
Haha Thanx Bro im not a specialist though wish i was, im still trying to get advice like everybody else here.

good post Chris. hitching is a nasty habit :clown:

i don't blame you for being scared after seeing Ano's video, LOL

Yea your right actually i only started hicthing once i started out of the rack IDK it throws off my normal form off the floor. i never hitch off the floor, it seems like im quicker and have more leg drive from the floor.And yeah after seeing Ano's injury it kind of made me a little nervous, and i read the double over hand grip is safer so i started doing that a lot more instead thanx for the post take care.

brihead301
12-04-2008, 07:00 AM
Dude, that 2nd pull, even though it was a "touch and go" type thing, went up ridiculously easy. That was impressive!

Erik 23
12-04-2008, 04:08 PM
Dude, that 2nd pull, even though it was a "touch and go" type thing, went up ridiculously easy. That was impressive!

Thanx Bro Ill post a better video in a few weeks when i take my max pull.Ill probally just go off the floor but i might still use straps depends on how i feel that day.

Lones Green
12-04-2008, 05:21 PM
do heavy rows and bicep work and you won't have to worry about tearing a bicep.

the hitching could either be an upper back weakness or just a form problem.

Erik 23
12-04-2008, 05:38 PM
do heavy rows and bicep work and you won't have to worry about tearing a bicep.

the hitching could either be an upper back weakness or just a form problem.

Ok thanx Lones i appreciate the advice i was conteplating going back to doing heavy rows i think i probally will.And the only bicep work i really do is Hammer curls.Thanx again.

Lones Green
12-04-2008, 05:41 PM
Ok thanx Lones i appreciate the advice i was conteplating going back to doing heavy rows i think i probally will.And the only bicep work i really do is Hammer curls.Thanx again.

hammer curls are great, all the bicep work i do too!

it feels weird giving someone with a 700 something deadlift advice. you have some insane strength my friend.

Erik 23
12-04-2008, 05:54 PM
hammer curls are great, all the bicep work i do too!

it feels weird giving someone with a 700 something deadlift advice. you have some insane strength my friend.

Thanx man,Yeah bicep work from what i read is what helps prevent tears in your biceps From heavy Deadlifting.They are very important in that respect so thats why im starting to do them again myself.And also man im the same as you or the next guy trying to break a 300 Lbs Deadlift.I accept all advice and i respect everyones views and opinions on lifting technique etc... The way i look at it is you always have to be humble thats how you learn,the day you start acting like you know everything is the day you stop making progress.Thanx again for the advice.

Pete22
12-04-2008, 07:24 PM
Nice pulling. One plus of pulling off that box/pins is it probably makes it a hell of a lot easier to load and unload plates.

mosley1990
12-04-2008, 08:31 PM
i cant wait to see your 1RM video haha.

Erik 23
12-04-2008, 09:01 PM
Nice pulling. One plus of pulling off that box/pins is it probably makes it a hell of a lot easier to load and unload plates.
Thanx and Yeah that is true the plates just slide on i dont even have to use collars half the time til i get to the bigger weights lol.

i cant wait to see your 1RM video haha.

Thanx yeah ima post it in a few weeks providing i get the weight ima try 780 then 800.

SELK
12-04-2008, 09:26 PM
i think what causes bicep tears is when someone starts to hitch a deadlift and puts all the force on the bicep. I'm not really convinced some curls are going to solve the problem, it seems like more of a form issue.

I use straps in training somtimes as it allows me to use a little better deadlift form constantly as ive noticed sometimes when I do reps with a mixed grip I twist - singles is fine though. mind you, i have ridiculous sized hands and grip problem has never really been an issue for me, other then on skinny deadlift bars where my hand is to big for the bar so i end up ripping my hands open.

you got some strength there, nice work.

pie zar
12-04-2008, 09:37 PM
you might want to get some better footwear to pull like wrestling shoes or socks but still very nice lift.

Erik 23
12-04-2008, 09:41 PM
i think what causes bicep tears is when someone starts to hitch a deadlift and puts all the force on the bicep. I'm not really convinced some curls are going to solve the problem, it seems like more of a form issue.

I use straps in training somtimes as it allows me to use a little better deadlift form constantly as ive noticed sometimes when I do reps with a mixed grip I twist - singles is fine though. mind you, i have ridiculous sized hands and grip problem has never really been an issue for me, other then on skinny deadlift bars where my hand is to big for the bar so i end up ripping my hands open.

you got some strength there, nice work.

Thanx for the response Selk i think the reason he was talking about curl's, is because i know when you pull your biceps get involved a lot.

So i think he was thinking that maybe by strengthing up the biceps, it may help to lessen the chance of a tear, which i can see his point of view.

It wont totally eliminate the risk but it will significantly reduce the risk.

Erik 23
12-04-2008, 09:45 PM
you might want to get some better footwear to pull like wrestling shoes or socks but still very nice lift.

Thanx yeah i might just pull barefoot or something next time i do have chuck taylors also but i find i can pull better with no shoes on lol.

pie zar
12-04-2008, 09:49 PM
Thanx yeah i might just pull barefoot or something next time i do have chuck taylors also but i find i can pull better with no shoes on lol.

yeah i pull barefoot too, i tryed wearing my chucks once but I didnt like it i think the soles are just too thick for deadlifting in my opinion.

SELK
12-04-2008, 11:01 PM
I guess I am just not convinced that curling a 70lbs DB or whatever you use, is anything like the force of a 700+lbs deadlift with a non-straight arm.

Cant hurt I suppose.

Im a little paranoid about tearing a bicep as ive seen it happen a few times as well. Just gotta get the double overhand grip up to par! haha.

Lones Green
12-05-2008, 03:30 AM
I guess I am just not convinced that curling a 70lbs DB or whatever you use, is anything like the force of a 700+lbs deadlift with a non-straight arm.

Cant hurt I suppose.

Im a little paranoid about tearing a bicep as ive seen it happen a few times as well. Just gotta get the double overhand grip up to par! haha.

what do you mean a "non straight arm?" your arms should be straight down when you deadlift.

and curls and rows won't eliminate a bicep tear, but if you strengthen that bicep tendon its going to be harder to tear it.

i've seen plenty of bicep tears that didn't have a thing to do with hitching. its the heavy weight.

notlef70
12-05-2008, 03:17 PM
I have seen alot of guys not lock their arms fully at the start of the deadlift, and try to "yank" the bar up. That's a perfect time for a biceps tear. Also, some guys do try to use their arms to pull the weight up, instead of back and legs. The arms are supposed to be "hooks, or levers," per se.