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Brian Hopper
12-05-2008, 08:07 AM
Can someone explain to me how to figure out band tension? or is there a website i can go to? maybe even a video that shows proper ways to hook up bands etc? THANKS in advance!

Sensei
12-05-2008, 09:22 AM
You can find charts that graph out tension of bands. Here's how I figure it out:

Mini bands = a little
light bands = enough
medium bands = more than enough
heavy bands = a ****load
any kind of band doubled over = a ****load+

Seriously though, how you set them up (choke the bands), your height, the age/wear of the bands, etc. all vary and affect how much tension you are going to get. At best, the numbers you come up with are going to be a very, very rough estimate.

I talk about bands and chains and basic set up in this video.
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Brian Hopper
12-05-2008, 10:08 AM
Thanks!

Lones Green
12-05-2008, 10:12 AM
LOL at Sensei's post. like he said, any number you come up with is going to be extremely rough.

they make tensioners though

BigTallOx
12-05-2008, 11:02 AM
The first time I did reverse band presses, I put various weights on the bar and measured how far the bands extend. I think measuring it is really the only way to know for sure.

HP666
12-05-2008, 01:22 PM
Does it really matter though? What I mean is that it's all relative to your lifting anyway. For instance, I set myself up in a rack with the green bands choked at the bottom and placed on the bar. So I'm 6-3, so right away there is more band tension at the top than for someone who is 5-7. I just know that for me that when I use the green bands I can work up to 495 pounds of bar weight plus those green bands. I never worry about exactly what the tension weight is but focus on the weight on the bar as far as making gains. So Next time I train I can either A) add more bar weight or B) Use the blue bands and start with lesser bar weight. It works the same way with using the reverse bands for benching, worry about the weight on the bar.
Someone else mentioned it but it is almost friggin impossible to figure out exactly how much band tension equals in weight. What Sensei said, while funny, is right on the mark; "more than enough", "a **** load", that's what you need to know.
Part of the problem is people get too caught up in it, they want to say, "well I squatted 400lbs but with 137.524lbs of band tension, so my squat is awesome at 537.524lbs", or on the bench, "well I benched 455 with the reverse green bands so my real bench is stellar at around 405". Whatever, I think you get what I'm saying. Use the bands, worry about the weight on the bar. You're not gonna go for a PR with the bands anyway, so worry about that weight when the time comes.

Do not over think, just SFW.

FFHill
12-05-2008, 01:46 PM
^^ I'm with HP666. Bands aren't used in competition, so the number doesn't really matter. I do however work for PR's in each movement (i.e. bench with mini's, bench with monster mini's, reverse band bench, etc.) Use them to get stronger, that's it.

HP666
12-05-2008, 01:54 PM
^^ I'm with HP666. Bands aren't used in competition, so the number doesn't really matter. I do however work for PR's in each movement (i.e. bench with mini's, bench with monster mini's, reverse band bench, etc.) Use them to get stronger, that's it.

Yes, I should have said it more clearly regarding the PR thing, I just meant going for a PR as preparation for a meet lift. But you most certainly can track your PR's with bands like FFHill is saying.

Brian Hopper
12-05-2008, 03:27 PM
i understand what you guys are saying, i was just wondering thats all.

HP666
12-05-2008, 04:10 PM
This is from EliteFTS:

Band Tension

Dave and I recently measured band tension on the EFS Monolift and figured some people would like to know what we came up with. This may help you figure out what kind of tension that you have or give you an approximate idea of what you have.

1. Base of the Monolift is 4x4.
2. All bands were choked.
3. All bands were Jump Stretch Bands.
4. Bar was placed 52 inches from the ground.
5. Bands were on the sleeve of the barbell.
6. Bands were either brand new or used 2-3 times.
7. For every inch the bar went down, the tension decreased by about 10lbs. This only held true for the first 1/3 of the way down.
8. We found that choking the bands around a 3x3 base caused the tension to decrease 40lb; thus holding statement #6 true.

Band/Tension at the Top

Strong band 175lb
Average band 115lb
Light band 70lb

KarstenDD
12-05-2008, 10:01 PM
You can find charts that graph out tension of bands. Here's how I figure it out:

Mini bands = a little
light bands = enough
medium bands = more than enough
heavy bands = a ****load
any kind of band doubled over = a ****load+

This. There is no other answer.