Longjack

[etcarl]

Anyone notice that longjack is impossible to get any other way than from a bottle? You want the plant, or the seeds? Oh well. I even considered making a penpal in another country and saying ''dude; get me some longjack seeds and I'll stuff ten bucks in an envolope''. You can't trust these bogus companies out there, so I thought ''Hey; I could grow the plant myself''. But apparently I can't. It's like the Mafia has hoarded it all and nobody sellls it in any other form but in a ''proprietary fart formula''.

Anybody know anything I could do? Or am I just screwed? HEY! Idea; atlarge nutrition should start importing and selling seeds for hard to get plants for anyone interested in growing it themselves. Hoodia for instance is almost never a reliable source, even when a fancy seal of approval is involved (which they all have). I'd buy some growing equipment from a garden supply center and grow me some longjack.

[Flynn]

Have you smoked anything recently that you might have grown yourself?

Idea; atlarge nutrition should start importing and selling seeds for hard to get plants for anyone interested in growing it themselves

Atlarge nutrition - for all your horticultural needs

[etcarl]

Haha, good reply. But seriously; people grow pot in their rooms so they can get high. Why wouldn't a person grow their own longjack? Or any other herb that is hard to come by (except in a bottle). I highly doubt growing it would be illegal in any way. You could throw a few seeds in your garden. I however would rather have a grow room for it and obsess over soil quality and junk in an OCDish blaze of crazy. But that's just me.

I do want to make the point though that Tobacco is legal. However; I hear that it's illegal to grow your own without a permit. There might be laws for various herbs that vary from state to state (in America). So research anything before you do it. Anyhow; I looked for the seeds of a few interesting plants and found NOBODY who sold any. You can find fifty species of carnivorous plants; but you can't buy longjack seeds. You can buy thousands of pretty little flower varieties to your hippy girl hearts contint, but you can't find longjack seeds. I find that odd. It's a popular ingredient in supps though; so maybe it is only available in seed form to corporations. And I think as someone who likes to garden; that fact sucks.

[zen]

etcarl, I looked into buying seeds and got dead ends.
I did find a bulk supplier out of Malaysia where you could buy the powder in 5gal buckets, but that's not what I was trying to do. I too was looking for the plant, but to no avail.
Now, granted, it could take many many years to get farmable plants, but I just don't trust these companies who are probably throwing soy or who knows what else into their product to cut it.
Aside from that, you would probably have to try to grow it indoors with specific temp and humidity condition unless you live in a climate similar to SE Asia.

[etcarl]

Thank you very much for your post Zen. I'm considered an odd person because I think about stuff like this; and people on sites like this like to hate me for it, or call me a spammer, or a joke. But I always appreciate when guys like Tom, give an informative post, or just a nice one.

Anyhow; it's nice to see that someone else hit the wall that I did, lol, so I know that I'm not alone. The only thing I can think of to remedy our problem would be a plane ticket, haha. But would there be border laws regarding these plants; that could be a hassle.

[javyn]

Isn't LJ so highly extracted that you'd probably need a field of it to notice anything? How would you extract it once you grew it? From what I've read, anything less than a 50:1 extract is worthless, with 100:1 being what most people have to take to notice anything at all.

As far as I'm concerned, Maca is far cheaper, and even though it doesn't boost test levels like LJ, it works just as well for what I need it for. Which is a massive burst of energy to take to the gym, and the ability to turn me into a sexual beast who leaves his gf laying in a pool of her own sweat exhausted after I'm done with her.

edit: It gives me those nice, massive, Peter North loads too, but hell, what bodybuilding supplement out there DOESN'T increase seminal output? Zinc, lecithin, spirulina, maca, they are all great for that.