dymethazine?

[ripchase]

sorry if im breaking any rules mentioning this...but was reading about it and wondering what anyone thought about it...
its a old 60's found steriod they say, but a non-sponsor has introduced a product claiming it in it...

[king8329]

yea, Ive seen the I-force product. Requires pct after cycle = to dangerous for my body. Also mixed reviews on whether it really was all that great back in the 60's. Was discontinued due to lack if effectiveness. IMO risk vs. gain is too high nothing I would try.

[ripchase]

really/.... not effective? they were saying that it was like superdrol,but better.....cause you get the gains and stength but not as harsh of side effects

[Tom Mutaffis]

Any of the OTC stuff is going to have harsh sides if you get any gains from them... the only stuff that seems to work are the methyls and they are super toxic.

I would avoid them like the plague if you care about your health - and long term gains for that matter.

[king8329]

really/.... not effective? they were saying that it was like superdrol,but better.....cause you get the gains and stength but not as harsh of side effects

Its been around since the sixties and is better than superdrol but nobody paid attention to it until 2008?...... Its all hype (from what I've come across in my research). It was big in Italy I believe in the early sixties but was discontinued because it didnt give results in comparison to others at the time. If you have to pct after a cycle you cant tell me that it doesnt have harsh side effects. This is just my opinion and what little research that Ive done on it so I may be wrong but.....

[big_paul_ski]

yea its a great product! ill be running it in a few weeks. let me know if you want any details. i just joined here today. whats up everyone.

[big_paul_ski]

A never before seen molecular structure enables Dymethazine to harness one of the strongest anabolic:androgenic ratios ever seen. Featuring a greater myotropic effect than Winstrol, Oxymethalone, Testosterone Prop, and Methyl-Test, Dymethazine has been shown to not only be the strongest PH ever made, but also one of the strongest compounds ever produced.
Unable to aromatize, Dymethazine offers users ZERO estrogen related side effects. On top of that, studies show that Dymethazine may not be anywhere near as suppressive as as current PH's on the market. This means more intense cycles with less down time when you use Reversitol and Testabolan V2 for post cycle therapy.
The recommended dose of Dymethazine is 2-3 pills/day, however larger/more advanced users can use as many as 4-5(5 only if seriously advanced) pills/day to maximize skin tearing pumps, huge weight gains, and bone crushing strength. Dymethazine should be cycled for a maximum of 4-6 weeks and followed by a proper 4 week i-Force PCT plus 60 additional days off.

[big_paul_ski]

yea, Ive seen the I-force product. Requires pct after cycle = to dangerous for my body. Also mixed reviews on whether it really was all that great back in the 60's. Was discontinued due to lack if effectiveness. IMO risk vs. gain is too high nothing I would try.

very low risk.

[big_paul_ski]

Any of the OTC stuff is going to have harsh sides if you get any gains from them... the only stuff that seems to work are the methyls and they are super toxic.

I would avoid them like the plague if you care about your health - and long term gains for that matter.

1.Don't use anabolics if you don't know possible risks
2. Azine Bond in the Dymethazine will yield less pronounced side effects
3. Although they reccomend Reversitol the user should use what he feels is a sufficient PCT whether it be there product or another companies or both.
4. Although a methyl the studies show little to know increase in liver values so if it makes the user feel more inclined to use if they take Hawthorne Berry or Milk Thistle etc. by all means do so.

[big_paul_ski]

Here is some FAQ's
FAQ
1) What is Dymethazine?
Dymethazine is a designer anabolic that uses ?Azine Bond Technology.?
It?s a complex molecular structure that is unlike everything else on the market. This compound has been clinically proven to have the same or greater muscle building effects than Testosterone propionate, winstrol, and anadrol. Its great for anyone who is looking to take the next step in developing a muscular, lean physique.

2) What does it do, what can I expect?
It?s a strong compound that will give you huge gains in size, strength and muscle fullness. You can expect to gain from 10-20 pounds in a cycle of Dymethazine, as well as make dramatic gains in strength from week to week. In addition, the extra glycogen storage will cause a rapid ?cell swelling? effect that will give you that full, hard look and awesome pumps.

3) Whats the best way to take Dymethazine?
Dymethazine should be cycled for 4-6 weeks. Most users should start with 2 caps spread throughout the day, preferably preworkout and another 6-8 hours later. Advanced users can go up to 3 caps per day, spread throughout the morning, preworkout, and evening.

4) Are there any side effects?
Because of its Azine bond technology, the side effects of Dymethazine are greatly reduced compared to other anabolics. Liver values have been clinically shown to be negligible and the same goes for its effects on the HPT axis.

5) Do I need to do PCT when I use it?
PCT is recommended for this product. Use a product such as REVERSITOL to make sure that you keep all of the gains you make on your cycle.

6) Do I need to take support supplements?
No. Support supplements are not needed. They can be added if someone chooses to, but in our opinion it is not needed.

7) Can I keep taking my other supplements?
Yes! Keep taking your protein, Creatine, preworkout, and any other supplements you are taking. Anything that can help you in the gym or with recovery you should definitely keep taking it. However, we do suggest that you not use other hormonal products with Dymethazine, as it will be potent enough for most users.

8) Any tips on how to get the most out of my cycle?
EAT! Dymethazine allows you to greatly increase protein synthesis and glycogen storage. That means the more protein and clean carbs you eat the more muscle you will grow! And train hard. The strength gains you can make with Dymethazine are incredible, train hard and make the most of your workouts!


What is Azine Bond Technology?
Azine Bond Technology is what makes Dymethazine unique. It is a bond that links the 2 molecules of Dymethazine together. This azine bond creates a ?time release? effect. Because of the time release the liver is spared much of the damage that normal methylation creates. Clinical studies have shown that Dymethazine has little to no effect on liver enzymes.

The azine bond also decreases the chances of ? HPTA shutdown.? If your bodies natural testosterone production is shut down it can impact your gains, mood, and libido both on your cycle and during PCT.
Azine Bond technology allows users to run cycles of up to 6 weeks. This is because of the reduced liver toxicity and mild impact on the HPTA. Because of the Azine bond, the 2 molecules of Dymethazine are metabolized seperately. In conjuction with staggered daily dosing, the result is much more stable blood levels of the active hormones

i hope this helps with some of the questions you guys might have.

[big_paul_ski]

Any of the OTC stuff is going to have harsh sides if you get any gains from them... the only stuff that seems to work are the methyls and they are super toxic.

I would avoid them like the plague if you care about your health - and long term gains for that matter.

actually the study states approximately this


"20mg was administered for 45-90 days. Upon finishing the tests, 50% of all users were found to have no elevation in liver values, while 50% noticed mild to moderate increases."
So this means 50% people saw NO change, and 50% saw a very small change. No users had liver enzymes beyond normal levels, and none had any lasting negative effects.

[big_paul_ski]

this is another name for dymethazine and more info.

Roxilon, Anabolic Steroid
Category: Steroid Information

Roxilon is the commercial name given to the steroid compound Dimethazine, also known as mebolazine. This potent oral anabolic steroid was derived from dihydrotestosterone and has a very unique structure.

The dimethazine molecule is made from two methyldrostanolone molecules, bonded together with an azine bridge. When administered, the body chemically breaks this bond so that the drug provides free methyldrostalone, the compound used in Superdrol.

Dimethazine was first described in 1962 and developed further into a medicine by Ormonoterapia Richter in Italy. The firm sold the steroid as Roxilon throughout Italy and as Dostalon in Mexico. It has also been sold under licence by Lepetit.

When sold, dimethazine was evaluated to cure and treat several conditions ranging from promotion of growth in underweight children and adolescents, the treatment of osteoporosis and as a general anabolic in conditions necessitating the use of such an agent.

The steroid has since been added to the list of long and forgotten anabolic preparations. The steroid saw limited success in the medical field and was discontinued by the manufacturer some years ago which marked the end of dimethazine as it was once known.

When used by athletes, this drug was highly favoured for it?s ability to promote solid gains in lean muscle tissue without excess water retention and fat gain. The results and behaviour of this steroid compares vary similarly with drostanolone propionate (Matheron), although as an oral c-17alpha alkylated steroid it presents considerably more toxicity.

Under the administration of dimethazine, estrogen related side effects should not be a concern. dimethazine is not aromatised by the body and anti estrogens will not be necessary. Due to the inability to convert to estrogen, even sensitive intervals should not suffer side effects like gynecomastia and a lean ripped look will be produced.

Androgenic side effects are always likely to present themselves, even with weak anabolic steroids. Side effects relating to the increase of androgens can range from acne and oily skin, to hair loss. Women are warned off using anabolic steroids in doses required to promote muscle growth as typical side effects for women can be, deepening of the voice, facial and body hair growth along with menstrual irregularities

[Tom Mutaffis]

1.Don't use anabolics if you don't know possible risks
2. Azine Bond in the Dymethazine will yield less pronounced side effects
3. Although they reccomend Reversitol the user should use what he feels is a sufficient PCT whether it be there product or another companies or both.
4. Although a methyl the studies show little to know increase in liver values so if it makes the user feel more inclined to use if they take Hawthorne Berry or Milk Thistle etc. by all means do so.

You have put a lot of information out there in this thread. Usually when these type of claims are put out there and something sounds "too good to be true", well... that is what it ends up to be.

In your "response" to me you said that "reversitol" (which I have never heard of - probably made by this same company) can be used as PCT. But in your earlier post you stated that this product has something that makes it "impossible to aromatize"; without aromatization there would be not need for any PCT since it would not shut you down - so therefore you have contradicted yourself.

Can you please post the studies on Methyls that show "little to know" (maybe this is some kind of pun...) toxicity? There are dozens of people on this board who have used methyl testosterone supplements and had harsh side effects, so I am inclined to believe that your study was created by a company trying to market those products.

As it has been said before, an argument can be made to make almost anything sound very dangerous or like the best thing ever to hit the market.

Take a look at where your information comes from that that is how I would make my decisions on what I put into my body. Maybe dymethazine works, maybe it is total garbage... you have piqued my interest so I am going to look into it further and post back again in a couple of days with an objective and further informed opinion.

[Ryan Bracewell]

Man, there are alot of thread out there about this product.

First, any methylated compound, otc or illegal, is going to have affects on the liver. Some are worse than others, but they all affect the liver atleast a little. If you choose to take one of these methylated products make sure that you:
-drink lots of water
-do not drink alcohol
-take normal amounts(more is not better with these)
-take some kind of liver support(i recommend liver longer or liv. 52)

Second, i-Force does recommend Reversitol(an i-Force product) for PCT and they do have lab reports to back up its effectiveness. I would highly recommend that you take "real" pct products like nolvadex or clomid for your post cycle. But since most people use OTC pro hormones because they want to stay legal, I highly doubt they will break the law for nolva.........So Reversitol is your best option.

Third, if you are going to take an OTC pro hormone I would highly recommend using an i-Force or Geared Up Nutrition. Both have good quality products.