MAG 10 or 1-AD which is better

[IronGiant]

I'm looking to pack on a good 10-15 pounds, I've heard good things about Biotest MAG 10 and 1-AD. anyone tried eiter one?:help:

[Fek]

Im currently on Mag-10 right now, Im in day 3 of week two, and have put 7 pounds as of today, although most of this is bulk from massive eating, I can defiently tell the difference in the gym, my strength has increased greatly, and my weights are finally up to where they used to be before i hurt my shoulder and knee

[IronGiant]

thanks. I really wanted to try theMAG 10, but i couldnt find any good info on it besides what biotest claims. I just started taking 1-AD today, i'll let you know how it goes. as for MAG10 i think i'm gonna deffinatley try it eventually

[D&G]

None of the above - get a 1-Test product - much better

ONE by Avant Labs or 1-Test Ethergels by Molecular Nutrition

[Blood&Iron]

Originally posted by D&G
None of the above - get a 1-Test product - much better

Mag-10 is a 1-Test product. Just a crappy one, from what I've heard.

[tony touch]

i havent heard if its crappy or not. either one

[Mark]

I'm going to give MAG 10 a try myself in the near future. The dealer I'll get it from tried it himself and put on 7 lbs in 1 week!

You can read his report at www.gymratz.co.uk.

[IronGiant]

day 4 on 1-AD. this stuff is awsome!!! a week ago i was doing DB shoulder presses at 100 x 4 today i did them at 120 x 6!!!! this stuff is awsome, my pumps are anbeleivable. I've never done AS, but this must be what its like!!!! I just hope it continues like this

[Kev70]

Dpsnutrition.com has Ergopharm (Ergotest?) Capsules for 39.95 for 60. Does this come in any other forms? The Biotest MAG-10 was 70.00 for 4 oz. Why so much more? Is it better than the 1-AD capsules? :help:

[IronGiant]

I havent tried the MAG-10, mainly because i havent heard too much to back up the claims the company makes. it's probably so damn expensive because of how much advertsing BIOTESt does. If you can get the 1-AD for that price i'd say go for it!!! I payed $55!!! for the same stuff (ERGOPHARM) the stuff is awsome my weights have shot up across the board!!!

[Mark]

Incredible results Iron Giant, I don't think you get that rapid a reult even with AS although like you I've never tried them so cannot speak with any authority.

I'd be grateful if you can keep us posted on your results. Have you changed your diet since you started the 1-AD?

[the doc]

Incredible results Iron Giant, I don't think you get that rapid a reult even with AS although like you I've never tried them so cannot speak with any authority.

hmmm that might be because 1 -ad is a steroid. only a legal technicality allows them to be sold. Make no mistake to use "prohormones" is actually using steroids. You should learn as much as possible about them before using

[Blood&Iron]

Originally posted by the doc

hmmm that might be because 1 -ad is a steroid. only a legal technicality allows them to be sold. Make no mistake to use "prohormones" is actually using steroids. You should learn as much as possible about them before using
Prohormones and steroids are not the same things. There are enzymatic limitations that occur with prohormones that are not an issue with steroids. Of course, if you want to get technical, yes, 1-AD is a steroid, but then so are vitamin-D and cholesterol. That said, anyone thinking 1-AD is "safe" because it is legal is asking for trouble. It is still a drug, and has not gone through the clinical trials that prescription medications have. You are offering yourself up as a test-subject by taking it(Though, provided your use is limited, it's probably relatively safe.)

[tony touch]

r any of u guys gonna run clomid or zma or somethin after ur done with the 1-ad to get ur balls goin again? 1-ad does suppress natural test production.

what do u guys think of the newest andro popper? its basically 1-ad and 4-ad combined.


did any of u guys read ironman magazine this month and read that interview concerning 1-Test? theres a whole lotta hype and claims going around. im really anxious about this.

[IronGiant]

I havent changed my diet too much. I'm still in my bulking phase and wil be for another 5 weeks. right now i'm taking in around 3500-4000 cals a day. todays an off day, tomorrow i hit chest and bis. i havent hit my chest since i started 1-AD so i' pretty excited. I'll keep you posted!!

[Mark]

Doc, I think you'd better tell us all a little more as it sounds as if you know more about the subject than the rest of us.

If a prodcuct is legal, works and has minimal side effects then I would take it, as would anybody else who reads these posts.

Iron Giant - I'm looking forward to hearing about your chest and bicep worlout.

[the doc]

check out these threads as it is debated well

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11931

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12144

[Kev70]

My most pressing questions. Will this change my mood? I am training to become a preacher and mood swings are disasterous in my line of work. Also, can I pass a drug screen? I have to work a public job and needless to say that if I fail, I have a lot of explaining to do... I understand that results vary for everyone but needed a general idea of what to expect. :confused:

[IronGiant]

I havent noticed any mood swings (yet) and i wouldnt worry about the drug test. most employment drug test are geared towards marijuana and narcotics. in my opinion all you should expect is dramatic increases in strenght and endurance during your workouts.

[IronGiant]

just got back from the gym...CHEST DAY!!! day 7 on 1-AD. my weights again increased. last week my last set of benching was 225 x 4 today i hit 225 x 7!!! possibly could've pumped out 8 but i didnt have a spotter:(

[Mark]

Still going like a train then! Please continue to let us know your progress over the next few weeks.

[Blood&Iron]

Originally posted by Kev70
My most pressing questions. Will this change my mood? I am training to become a preacher and mood swings are disasterous in my line of work.
Well, many people report a loss of libido while using 1-AD due to the fact that it is non-aromatizing. Considering your intended profession, maybe this is something of a plus.

[IronGiant]

my buddy just finished a 3 week cycle of 1-AD with similar stength gains as mine, he has since lost some of it though. i guess i'm willing to accept that cause I'm having a blast now!!!!

Blood&Iron: i agree whith the libido thing because i have none...lol. I hope it returns. :)

[tony touch]

im guessing thast it will return once ur testes recover

[Unclepenn1]

OK, I am starting my first cycle of Mag-10 next week. I have always been apprehensive about pro-hormones, simply because of the warnings on some of them. I don't want to lose any hair, I dont want to grow breasts, I don't want to get [more] acne, etc. Has anyone had ANY of these symptoms, even remotely? I'd like to know what the chances are of any of these things happening. Thanks in advance :)


Penn

[IronGiant]

after i week on 1-AD i havent noticed any symptoms you mentioned. i am experiencing a decreased libido, but who cares anyway...lol

[Blood&Iron]

Originally posted by Unclepenn1
OK, I am starting my first cycle of Mag-10 next week. I have always been apprehensive about pro-hormones, simply because of the warnings on some of them. I don't want to lose any hair, I dont want to grow breasts, I don't want to get [more] acne, etc. Has anyone had ANY of these symptoms, even remotely? I'd like to know what the chances are of any of these things happening. Thanks in advance :)


Penn
If you are concerned about hairloss, you should stay away from Mag-10. It is a very real possibility with ANY 1-test product.

[=w=]

Originally posted by Blood&Iron

If you are concerned about hairloss, you should stay away from Mag-10. It is a very real possibility with ANY 1-test product.

Par has recomended anyone prone to (or worried about) hairloss stay away from any/all prohormones/prosteroids with the exception of the nor products.

[Unclepenn1]

But if I have a thick head of hair I am going to be OK, right?


Penn

[Mark]

My guess is that you won't be affected if you do not have any genetic tendency to baldness - unlike me as I've managed to lose quite a bit of hair without even looking at a steroid.

Biotest's ads claim that MAG 10 does not convert to dihydrotestosterone, which is what causes male pattern baldness.

I'm no steroid authority but I do notice that most of the so called 'safe' steroids convert to dihydrotestosterone which does seem a little at odds with the claims of Biotest.

Any real experts out there care to comment further?

[Unclepenn1]

thanks for the info Mark. I am starting it Monday, so I will let eveyone know how it goes.:D

[DasTylZ]

I just bought Mag-10 from biotest didnt try it yet gona wait stil 3 days i want to be sure there is no side affects (no hair loss,libido--Etc)
is there any experts out here?
plz tell me ure experiences with Mag-10

[Unclepenn1]

I am just finishing up with it. I gained 3 lbs so far and I don't think any of it is fat. I am pleased, but thought it would be a little more hardcore. I have been breaking out worse than normal on my face, but other than that, I havent had any side effects at all. I don't know if I would spend the 65 bucks again (got it on Ebay) but who knows.

Penn

[Shark]

I'm going to be starting my 1-AD cycle next monday. I found it online for $40 including shipping so I was pretty stoked. I am not worried about the decrease in Libido as I have no girlfriend right now and am not looking for one =). My only concern would be any chance of developing gynecomastia (malke boobs) as a result of taking this. Supposably 1-AD has some sort of estrogen inhibitor or it does not convert the same way. Anyone know of the truth behind this?

[MWB]

There's no estrogen inhibitor in it, it just doesn't convert to estrogen.