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twm
03-08-2009, 12:51 PM
When cutting, do you switch to water in protein shakes to avoid the carbs? My diet is stalling out and i'm looking for places to shrink.... but the milk makes shakes so, so much better. I'll do what needs to be done but just curious what others do?

slashkills
03-08-2009, 01:45 PM
you could cut with the milk if you must but it would be better to switch to water.

given'er
03-08-2009, 04:07 PM
I would definatley mix with water. It may take a bit to get used to but if you are using a quality protien it shoud mix and taste fine.

ResistancE1
03-08-2009, 07:02 PM
Hey man here is what you should do.

Put 7 ice cubes in a blender

then add about .5 to .75 of cup of pasteurized egg beater.

then add a scoop or two of whey (I prefer choc. 2 scoops)

then add a little less then .2 cup of water.

then blend that shiz up and add water if ice is not grinding up good. (not too much)


If you do it right the resulting thickness and taste is amazing.

Also it has no carbs, so its perfect for cutting.

Let me know if you try it and like it. word.

:birthday:

VikingWarlord
03-08-2009, 08:15 PM
The carbs you'll get from milk are pretty negligible. If you're looking to trim calories overall, it'd be better but if you're just worried about removing carbs, it's not that big a deal.

Holto
03-08-2009, 08:43 PM
Are you counting calories?

VDubb
03-09-2009, 10:48 AM
You could slowly reduce the amount of milk you're using..........

I generally use a mix of 1/4 milk, and 3/4 water........makes for a smooth drink..........

rbtrout
03-09-2009, 11:11 AM
Or use low fat or skim milk.

twm
03-09-2009, 06:23 PM
Are you counting calories?

Yes, I am counting cals. I've learned.. hopefully i can finish it right this time.

its true though -- its only 380 calories per week.. but 380 cals is 380 cals. i'd rather have those calories in some WW bread or ground turkey

Holto
03-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Yes, I am counting cals. I've learned.. hopefully i can finish it right this time.

its true though -- its only 380 calories per week.. but 380 cals is 380 cals. i'd rather have those calories in some WW bread or ground turkey

Excellent.

What was your intake when your diet 'stalled'?

I've just never heard of someone controlling their energy intake have this happen.

twm
03-09-2009, 09:22 PM
i've stalled at 2200 cals plus or minus. I have lost 21lbs with minimal strength loss.. but these last lbs are going to be the tough ones

Holto
03-11-2009, 05:49 PM
In that case, IMO, your cut is over. It sounds like your metabolism is in the toilet. If you're really insistent on continuing to cut, I'd take at least a two week break.

21lbs is EXCELLENT work bro.

ZenMonkey
03-11-2009, 06:21 PM
In that case, IMO, your cut is over. It sounds like your metabolism is in the toilet. If you're really insistent on continuing to cut, I'd take at least a two week break.

21lbs is EXCELLENT work bro.

Great advice from this guy^^.

OP: I think you can maintain cutting if you start to carb and calorie cycle.

Whats your height and weight?

twm
03-12-2009, 05:52 PM
thank you holto, means a lot to me. hopefully i can have some pics i'm proud enough to post in another month or two.

i'm 6' & 195 right now. i'm really not happy with the results yet. i have visible abs but still some fat i need to lose to be pleased (lower chest, love handles, belly, thighs etc). i just started adding cardio this week... i'm thinking about taking a break for a week or so then trying carb cycling or a ketogenic diet. another 5-7lbs of fat loss would really put me there i think

ZenMonkey
03-12-2009, 06:10 PM
Yea man, Id HIGHLY suggest cycling. You can still cut but make your body keep its metabolism high by eating more on some days than others.

HILL
03-16-2009, 05:18 PM
cut the milk mate, its not needed and to be honest if your dieting those cals could be coming from better food sources. theirs 200cals in 400ml semi skimmed milk. you have that 2/3 times a day and thats atleast 400 cals. now when im dieting id rather have that in oats or jackets pots and chicken. if you wouldnt then you aint dieting hard enough.

VikingWarlord
03-20-2009, 07:17 AM
You need not to take milk without fat. keep focus on your workout. Milk does not offer so much fat that can make you fatty.

If someone is looking to cut calories, switching to something with a smaller amount of fat is a good idea.

Progress
03-20-2009, 10:01 AM
Refeed!

Running 2200 cals at 195 is a steep cut.

thompo
03-21-2009, 06:40 AM
if switching milk to water is your only remaining option.... it's time to start eating again.

twm
03-21-2009, 06:57 AM
Refeed!

Running 2200 cals at 195 is a steep cut.


tell me about it :( im starving...

first carb day tommorow after 1 week of carb cycling. every other day has been sub 40g of carbs

Progress
03-21-2009, 03:29 PM
tell me about it :( im starving...

first carb day tommorow after 1 week of carb cycling. every other day has been sub 40g of carbs

Dude that's (nearly) ketogenic. Eat up!

jaz08
03-25-2009, 03:32 AM
If you really want to cut, then switch to water. But then, as suggested above you can actually use skim or lowfat milk. I love milkshakes!:D

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03-26-2009, 05:15 AM
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