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SeanW
03-25-2009, 09:34 PM
My best deadlift is 455 (which i just hit today and is a big PR for me) however, my best squat is only 320. 135lbs seems like a big difference between the two. Anyone else have a real big difference? What would be the weak muscle group? I was thinking quads maybe.

Brodiesel
03-25-2009, 09:57 PM
your form could suck ass? or you just need to get stronger

Brian Hopper
03-25-2009, 10:03 PM
How long have you been lifting? When I first started training and competing my squat and dead were very close together. Now they are 210lbs apart.

MarcusWild
03-25-2009, 10:14 PM
Skinny people will usually deadlift quite a bit more than they squat unless your name is Sam Byrd. I know my raw squat has gotten close to my raw dead as I've gained weight.

Notorious
03-25-2009, 10:19 PM
I think in general people's raw deadlifts are a lot higher than their raw squats.

abebesheir
03-25-2009, 10:26 PM
My raw squat and deadlift have always been about 50-75 pounds apart, with the deadlift being the bigger of the two. As I have gotten stronger my squat has closed in on my deadlift somewhat... I think this has a lot to do with learning proper technique.
Here are some numbers:

1st meet- SQ 331 DL 408
2nd meet- SQ 360 DL 425
4th meet- SQ 400 DL 430 (injured when I pulled this)
6th meet- SQ 405 DL 460

johnst_nhb
03-26-2009, 09:42 AM
LOL when I first read the subject line of this thread, I thought of a co-worker who once told me that a deadlift was just a reverse squat without the weight.

THAT is the true difference between a squat and a dead!

rbtrout
03-26-2009, 09:55 AM
I'm not an expert like many of the guys here, but as my squat form has got better and I've got bigger and heavier, my squat has nearly caught my dead. Current best pull (sumo) 660X1, current best squat 635X1 (two singles this morning).

=Travis=
03-26-2009, 10:08 AM
Maybe I'm just bad at deadlifting but I squat about 50 more than I deadlift

Brad08
03-26-2009, 10:33 AM
Deadlifting about 100 pounds more than you squat doesn't seem uncommon (raw, anyway).

In OP's case, technique and skill could be a large component. Deadlifting is pretty easy: grip it and rip it! Squatting is a whole other animal and really takes some time to learn, and even more time to become proficient at.

Bennuendo
03-26-2009, 03:43 PM
My best deadlift is 455 (which i just hit today and is a big PR for me) however, my best squat is only 320. 135lbs seems like a big difference between the two. Anyone else have a real big difference? What would be the weak muscle group? I was thinking quads maybe.

I would guess it would depend on your form, your height and so on... I've never squatted as much as I could deadlift though.. I'm about 6'3"

Chris Rodgers
03-26-2009, 03:53 PM
Maybe I'm just bad at deadlifting but I squat about 50 more than I deadlift

Nah, you probably just squat high. :evillaugh: Short arms? Short legs?

SeanW
03-26-2009, 06:12 PM
I am about 5'10-11" 180-185lbs. So I am still a little guy. I am 20 years old. I have been an on again off again lifter never taking it seriously until this December. Thanks for all the comments. I imagine i just need to get stronger all over and the weak points will catch up. I posted a vid of my training a few month back. I have gained some weight and got stronger on all my lifts since then. I will try to get some video soon and post up.

Brian C
03-26-2009, 06:44 PM
You still have beginner strength to gain. That combined with keeping strict form you should see your squat #s come up

Chris Rodgers
03-26-2009, 06:46 PM
I am about 5'10-11" 180-185lbs. So I am still a little guy. I am 20 years old. I have been an on again off again lifter never taking it seriously until this December. Thanks for all the comments. I imagine i just need to get stronger all over and the weak points will catch up. I posted a vid of my training a few month back. I have gained some weight and got stronger on all my lifts since then. I will try to get some video soon and post up.


Going by your height and weight I would say you are probably built more to pull than squat. Us little guys are typically like that. Once you start looking like a dumpster with legs *cough..John Bernor...cough* then you might be able to outsquat your pull raw. :D

Posting vids is always helpful though. We have a lot of experienced lifters here of all shapes and sizes so you can definitely get some good tips on your technique.

Brian C
03-26-2009, 06:47 PM
Oh, and there's nothing wrong with bring a "little guy" ;)