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CanadianLaxStar
04-14-2002, 02:46 PM
I have been working out hard for the past year and have goten some good gains, but I am not even close to how big I want to be, I eat well, work out hard and have take almost all of the andros and **** like that and now I am considering taking roids

What kind is the best for gaining bulk?

How do the cycles work for each one and how much should be taken a day?

How long can it be detected in a drug test?

Can more then one be taken at a time?

Serious side effects, are they only notice if its abused?

and if you can explain the types

CanadianLaxStar
04-14-2002, 03:44 PM
Oh yeah
Im 18 years old
im 5'11" and 175 lbs
I work out 5 days a week and run 7
and play lacrosse at a high lvl

captain piddles
04-14-2002, 04:09 PM
if you cut the running down to 3-4 days a week you'll notice a difference, you'll gain more, try that before going to roids, not that roids are bad, I want them too but it is an easy way to get gains cause it looks like your burning muscle by doing all the running

Severed Ties
04-14-2002, 10:15 PM
Not trying to be rude but answering your post would require a small book, especially the side effect part. I'd suggest you read the Anabolic FAQ to get familiar with the common terms then read as much of this forum as you can in your spare time.

I will try to give you some quick answers to start your research though.



Originally posted by CanadianLaxStar
I have been working out hard for the past year and have goten some good gains, but I am not even close to how big I want to be, I eat well, work out hard and have take almost all of the andros and **** like that and now I am considering taking roids

What kind is the best for gaining bulk?

****You will quickly learn that their is no best for anything, most common are Testosterone, Tren, Dianabol, Anadrol but any AS can be used in a cutting or bulking cycle effectively.

How do the cycles work for each one and how much should be taken a day?


*****different for every drug and no one is going to outline dosing for 20-30 different steroids.



How long can it be detected in a drug test?

*****certain ones only for a matter of days, others for over a year.

Can more then one be taken at a time?

***** Yes they can, but this does not mean you must. This is referred to as stacking.

Serious side effects, are they only notice if its abused?

*****Depends how you define abuse, everyone has a different opinion as their is no clear line. You will get some side effects but they may just be the milder ones like acne, hairloss, water retention. Severe ones like prostate hypotrophy or liver disease are partly due to hereditary predisposition and partly from amount/duration of the steroid use.

and if you can explain the types

*****This would be a long book, so you going to have to do some research by yourself, when you narrow down your questions we can offer more help then.




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CanadianLaxStar
04-15-2002, 11:37 AM
Ok Ill look into it
Thanks

tony touch
04-15-2002, 02:38 PM
canadian lax r u ******* kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u posted about a month ago that you havent really hit the weights because you dont really have any time. you barely lift weights and u want to juice? u run 7 days a week and u want to put on weight? stop running and start lifting!!!!!!!!!!

ur nutrition sucks because i remember what ur diet looked like and it wasnt high caloric with tons of nutrients.

gimme a ******* break dude, get the hell out of the anabolic section and off to the training and nutrition forum.

ur barely a beginner, start lifting weights and eating right and you'll get juice like results:eek:

CanadianLaxStar
04-15-2002, 11:30 PM
What the **** are you talking about there big guy, i have been working out for over a year and i eat really well and i found this web site about a week ago
and i run 7 days a week because i play lacrosse at a really high calaber, i have to run that much or i dont play
Think about **** befor you make your self look like an idiot

Belial
04-15-2002, 11:38 PM
Aight, chill guys, let's keep this civil.

Lax, try to give us a better idea of WHY you'd take them, what effects you're looking for, etc. Then we can help more.

CanadianLaxStar
04-16-2002, 11:42 AM
Im looking to gain size mostly, as i am only 175 lbs, my goal is 200 lbs

tony touch
04-16-2002, 03:56 PM
i remember u posted something a longtime ago about getting bigger but if im wrong then my bad dude. **** just pisses me off


go with straight test and maybe some anavar or some winny thrown in there. deca works too

Tadger
04-17-2002, 12:42 PM
Tony, I'll have to disagree with ya there... winny is a bad idea if he wants to keep playin lacrosse (or any kind of running for that matter).

PowerManDL
04-17-2002, 01:43 PM
Everyone's also missing the fact that A) he's 18, more importantly B) he's only been lifting a year.

Blood&Iron
04-17-2002, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL
Everyone's also missing the fact that A) he's 18, more importantly B) he's only been lifting a year.
Damn straight!

To me, the above is sort like saying "Well, I work at McDonald's and have been saving my money for a whole month to buy a car, but I don't have enough, so I think I'll go rob a 7-11. What do you guys think?"

CanadianLaxStar
04-17-2002, 04:35 PM
hehe
so your saying i should wait for a while?
about how old should i be when i start?

PowerManDL
04-17-2002, 04:51 PM
I'd say at *least* be 21.... but others here have gone earlier than that.

I think once you're over 18 its not all that big a deal; the thing that has me worried is that you've only been lifting a year. One year is not long enough to make any decisions, nor is it likely you'd see any phenomenal gains even with a well-planned cycle.

Blood&Iron
04-17-2002, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by CanadianLaxStar
hehe
so your saying i should wait for a while?
about how old should i be when i start?
Well, I'm sure you'll hear different answers from everybody. Personally, I'd wait another year or two--at the minimum. At 18 your system is flooded with test already. If you really put the proper effort into your training and diet, I think you can quite easily hit 200lbs within that time span--without having to resort to gear.

Tadger
04-17-2002, 06:37 PM
indeed.

YatesNightBlade
04-18-2002, 02:51 AM
I agree. Wait. First get your diet and training sorted out. Gear is nothing without them. You'll make great gains from getting these in order, alone.

tony touch
04-18-2002, 09:24 AM
dodger- no winny because of the joint problems right? i was figuring that the anavar and winny might help keep him lean while trying to pack on so much weight along with the test. test tho should definitely be the backbone of his cycle.

syd
04-19-2002, 02:16 AM
wether u chose to use gear or not is up to you, however if you are using or not, the fact that you need to run so often to stay at that level in your sport means you are going to need a ****load more calories if you want to gain simple as that

heathj
04-19-2002, 08:50 AM
At least 21? I disagree, but I do agree with the rest of your post ;) I don't believe age matters..just the amount of knowledge the person has about steroids/diet/training, how long they have been training and how willing they are to have a excellent diet and training regimen.

PowerManDL
04-19-2002, 09:09 AM
Age does matter. If you start mucking with your hormones while still at a formative age, you can do permanent damage even with all the ancillaries in the world.

Go ask Dave Tate why he can't have children.

CanadianLaxStar
04-19-2002, 11:27 AM
Well as for my Deit it is really really good, I live with my teams trainer and she cooks all the meals and watchs my diet and everything I take
Also there is no way I can run less, I Play Junior A Lacrosse, this is the highest lvl I can play at right now, one step down from pro, so I have to run all the time to stay on top of my game
And I have been working out for a little over a year and i work out hard 5 days a week, and have a good routine

PowerManDL
04-19-2002, 01:09 PM
Again I repeat, if you've only lifted for a year, even the best cycle won't give you the gains you expect it to, especially considering that you're involved in so much endurance training.

Jane
04-19-2002, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Blood&Iron
If you really put the proper effort into your training and diet, I think you can quite easily hit 200lbs within that time span--without having to resort to gear.

Exactly.
Don't forget that using it now would be a *****load of money to waste, do you really want to mess around like that?
Eat, lift, and you'll be at 200 easily.

tony touch
04-19-2002, 02:04 PM
dude i disagree that juice wont give him great results because hes only been liftin a year. i kno people who were liftin for about a year, then went on a cycle of sus or some kind of test and pakced on a good 20-25 lbs in a few months. ive seen sick results and these people arent super-gainers.

what if you're finished growin and ur about 18, what do u guys think about this?

Tadger
04-20-2002, 07:09 AM
still has nothing to do with gains... it's more to do with the fact that your hormone levels won't balance out until you're about 22-25. If you hit the gear too early, you risk low test levels later in life along with a host of other problems that have been discussed in more threads than you can shake a stick at here.