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BIG POPPA PUMP
04-17-2002, 07:19 PM
I posted my next cycle about 69,000 times but I got some questions that NEED TO BE ANSWERED. My goals are to drop BF% and alot of LBM. Anyway the cycle is gonna kinda look like this.
week 1-10 750mg of some kind of test (soon to be question)
week 1-10 400mg of EQ (another question)
week 1-6 100mg EOD Winny (Zambon for sure)
week 1-8 75mg ED of Fina (lot o questions)
week 1-10 1mg EOD of Arimidex
week 1-10 1000mg ED Metformin?? (not sure if I am gonna need this or not)
post cycle:
10,000 IU HCG and 50mg ED of clomid through and three weeks after done with the HCG. Now it is time for my questions:
1) was gonna use Ara-test but now I am gonna use good human gear should I go with and Enanthate or a Sust? or something else? Remember lean and pretty for the summer
2) I am 90% sure I am going to mix the Fina with my EQ, Which would be best to mix with? quality-Vet 200mg/ml (Uhh no), or Ultragan by Denkall 100mg/ml, or the fort Dodge 50mg/ml stuff, or if thier is something better let me know. Or do u think it would be better just to do the EQ and Fina seperatly.
3) Fina I hear is Harsh stuff so is it gonna mess with my pepe for the summer I cannot have that. Let me stress this point I CANNOT HAVE THAT:D
4) If need be could I dose my Fina differently I already have a gang of juice in here as is. but I want people to be like damn he's juicing:p So I am willing to do what it takes.
5) What kind of diet should I go with? high calories 4,000-5,000 just make it good food low carbs and about 400g of protien?
6) I am a big boy as is (6'2" 250lbs though I am starting to shrink down a bit) What can I expect from this cycle?
7) how will the metfomin play into this? Is it really worth it?
8) What will be the major sides from this I have thick hair, Kinda prone to Acne on chest,back, and back of neck, no gyno (not really sure what to look for here nipples are never sore but they do sometimes fluctuate in size throughout the day, at times they seem a little puffy.
9) needle size- I have an ass load of 1.5" and 1" needles should I go with 1.5 in glutes and quads and 1" every where else tri's, bi's, delts etc...
Let me say this the Mods on this board are the **** you've done nothing but help me out even though I post the same things again and again. I am extremley lucky to have come accross this board. I am doing my best to learn and I think I am catching on kinda quick and I would have not had 1/100 of the knowledge I do if it wasn't for this board. So thanks alot fellas u been a great help.
BIG POPPA PUMP IS YOUR HOOK-UP HOLLA IF U HEAR ME- SCOTT STIENER
i'd say use prop for your test.. um, other people can answer the rest :D
Belial
04-19-2002, 11:42 AM
Aight, I'll give my opinion on a few of these:
1) If you wanna stay lean, I'd keep the test low, and preferably with a short ester so you can control bloat. Arimidex would be key here. Test prop, phenylprop are your best bets, but 500mg/week enanthate shouldn't bloat you up much if you're on arimidex. 750....well, after 4-5 weeks concentration will be pretty damn high.
2) I say mix the fina with the fort dodge. I don't know how well extra steroid will actually go into an alrady saturated solution (like 200mg/ml EQ). Either way, Fort Dodge is some of the best, so stick with that.
3) If you're on 500+mg/week of test, the fina probably won't cause impotence.
4) 75mg ED of fina is plenty. Some dudes do 150ED, others do 75 EOD, but 75mg ED, with all the stuff you've got there, will be more than enough.
5) 400-500g of protein. DON'T go low carbs. Keep fat low, protein high, and carbs moderate to high. ST will probably have some good diet tips. 5,000 + calories, start slightly lower, and after a few weeks go slightly higher.
6) No clue, man. Should get some damn good growth outta this, how much is anybody's guess. Depends on diet!
7) uhhh..... run a search. Somebody's talked about it here, "Glucophage"
8) The fina and test will definitely cause oily skin. Acne.... who knows. That seems to be more of a toss up. It'll probably get worse, but that doesn't happen to everyone. Hair growth, well, you won't turn into an ape overnight, so I wouldn't sweat it. Do you already have back hair?
9) 1.5 for glutes, 1 for quads, 5/8" for delts, bi's, and tri's. You're a big dude, so a 1" might be okay for upper body (just don't go in all the way), but 5/8", 25 gauge is pretty comfortable.
10) Oh, there wasn't a 10.
tony touch
04-19-2002, 02:14 PM
dude if ur like 250 lbs already, how much ******* weight do u wanna put on?? if i were u, i'd do a strictly cutting cycle and be totally ******* ripped. could u imagine urself at like 230 lbs with like 7-8 percent bodyfat?
winstrol\anavar\primo\maybe some clen and if u can get it for a decent price GH. expensive i kno but ive seen guys get soo ****in lean on dat ****.
just my opinion
BIG POPPA PUMP
04-19-2002, 03:23 PM
Thanks B and Tony your absoultely right but I'd rather be 265 at 9-10% BF. If I can gain 15-20 solid pounds and drop my BF% say 5-7% I would be extatic. I'm also going to afternoon shift at work and it's easiley a 100 plus Degrees in thier the fat will be dripping off me.
tony touch
04-19-2002, 09:26 PM
everyone hates deca here but deca\winny works for that but after ST new thread, i would think twice about it.
how about EQ?
Belial
04-19-2002, 09:27 PM
EQ is a beautiful, beautiful thing.
Severed Ties
04-20-2002, 06:16 AM
I think your using way to much gear for your second cycle.
ST
BIG POPPA PUMP
04-20-2002, 04:06 PM
I think your right but it's kinda a little to late I got the fina and EQ coming I really want the winny but I think I may frontload the test around 1000mg for the first 2 weeks then drop to 500mg for the remainder that's about 1,775mg's of gear a week. St what do u think I hould do instead?I deffiently want the winny and EQ, the Fina was just what everybody and thier grandmother reccommended so I got all these idea's getting thrown at me and I'm just like hell yeah!
Belial
04-20-2002, 06:14 PM
Well, if you do 500mg/week of test, and inject 1ml of fina every day, made with 50mg/ml EQ, that comes out to:
500mg/week test
350mg/week EQ
525mg/week Fina
That's not a huge amount.
I don't see a need to run the winny the whole time. Fina will kick start the cycle nicely, and you already have the EQ as your 'anabolic', so if you want to run 50mg/day of winny (or 100mg EOD) for the first 3 weeks, along with a test frontload, you should be fine.
Severed Ties
04-21-2002, 11:06 PM
You banged your liver up pretty hard last cycle, I say you give 17AA AS a break this one, You don't need more than a gram of gear per week, anything more and your using AS as a mental crutch because realistically your body can only grow so much and your not at a level where you need 4 drugs to grow.
If you feel the need to push your doses Belials cycle is fine but their still more than you need.
ST
BIG POPPA PUMP
04-21-2002, 11:24 PM
Are u saying that by using the larger dose that I am just going to be wasting it, and that I can get the same results using less gear, because odds are I ain't changing my cycle a bit except with the exception of cutting my test down to 500mg weekly> I am still going to frontload the test at 1000mg or 750mg for first 2 weeks and I am still gonna do the winny for 5-6 weeks. I will take at least 4 months after this cycle swear.
BIG POPPA PUMP
04-21-2002, 11:34 PM
I have a couple more questions:
1) which test would be best I'm not gonna get a prop I do belive so it's either the Galenkia enanthate or the Egypt Sust, Everybody says sust is the (king of all test's) but I'm not sure that's what I want in this cycle.
2)All the different gear I'll be using is it cool to mix them in the same shot say like my fina EQ, and winny that will be a 2ml or 3ml if I go EOD with the winny and the test I'll be doing like twice a week maybe 3 times when fronloading.
3) since I am using Fina enriched EQ should I frontload that?I will have extra plain EQ so if frontloading EQ is a good idea I can use that cause I belive frontloading the Fina may not be a good idea.
Thanks bro's
tony touch
04-22-2002, 07:46 AM
how bout one heavy and one light cycle a year? do your heavy bulking one in the winter and your lighter cutting one in the summer.
sus and winny would work good for the summertime
Tadger
04-22-2002, 11:05 AM
1. actually most here will argue that sust isn't the king of tests. I'd go with the galenikas. I was actually thinkin about pickin some up myself for next fall.
2. read the anabolic forum FAQ
3. go ahead and front load the eq. Use the left over stuff and just add that in at the beginning. Just run the fina/eq like you had already planned. The tren is fast acting as it is... no need to pump yourself full of that.
The shorter the test esters half life, the more likely bloat and/or gyno will occur. So contrary to what Belial said, I'd suggest a long acting ester like enanthate. I'll try to find something on this subject if you like. I read something about this a while back.
Belial
04-22-2002, 11:37 AM
Gino, according to half lives, that makes no sense. And empirical evidence points both ways, so that's inconclusive. If I'm injecting 100mg of prop EOD, the highest level that concentrations will ever reach is ~150-200mg in the bloodstream. If I'm injecting 500mg a week of enanthate, by week 7 concentrations will be in the ~700mg range. True, it'll be a more gradual onset, and injecting 200-300mg of prop or suspension in one or two days will cause blood levels to rise VERY quickly (therefore resulting in bloat/gyno), but the total concentration will never be as high.
Do with that what you will.
BIG POPPA PUMP
04-22-2002, 11:44 AM
Thanks Bro's I think I am gonna go with the enanthate frontload at 1000mg's for the first 2weeks and frontload the EQ around 700mg's. I'm gonna be huge
Tadger
04-22-2002, 12:57 PM
lol. that's the spirit.
Belial
04-22-2002, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by BIG POPPA PUMP
I'm gonna be huge
Says the 6'2", 250 pound guy. lol.
S'alright, man. I feel your pain.
BIG POPPA PUMP
04-29-2002, 01:05 PM
U think I might wanna run the Fina EQ for the first 6 weeks and start the Winny the 5th week? I figure this may even out the cycle a little more then hitting all the gear hard at once that way I won't be closing out my cycle with just test and EQ.
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