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cphafner

08-02-2009, 02:31 PM

They have turned down a deal with the UFC. Fedor's manager is demanding he be a co-partner with the UFC. That is an insane demand. You give them 1 guy and they give you half their promotion? Ridiculous. If Fedor was a man and wants the best fights he will go to the UFC. He has fought cupcakes recently, and that looks like it will continue. According to mmaweekly, 8 of the top 10 heavyweights are in the UFC. No denying Fedor's talent, but he is wasting it.

08-02-2009, 02:34 PM

cphafner

08-02-2009, 02:40 PM

Ive been reading alot of articles on this whole situation, and as much as I cannot stand dana at times, he is right about this one, giving away 50% for one fighter is a joke, and I am glad that he did not give in.

That would be like a biotech company coming out with one promising drug and in exchange for selling it to Merck saying give us half your company. No company in the world would go for something like this!

backseatwitme13

08-02-2009, 02:50 PM

either fedor is legally ******ed by keeping that guy as his manager or he just knows he'll be nothing special in the UFC. either way, you can't help but lose a ton of respect for that guy.

08-02-2009, 02:50 PM

That would be like a biotech company coming out with one promising drug and in exchange for selling it to Merck saying give us half your company. No company in the world would go for something like this!

Exactly what they are requesting is just flat out unreal, dana the lorenzo brothers built the UFC into what it is today, does M-1 really think they are going to just give up half now???

Heres and interview with the M-1 vice president.

http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/07/31/m-1-official-ufc-is-wwe-of-mma/

Now what gets me about this interview is this line

My thing is this: Dana says there's no way he's going to do a co-promotion. How bad does Dana want to prove his fighters are the top in the world? If they want to say they got the top fighter in the world. Prove it. We're willing to prove it. Fedor's willing to fight anybody anytime. And he is, he's willing to fight anybody [but] on equal terms. We're not asking for more. We won't settle for less -- we're not asking for more though. Fedor will fight anybody on equal terms. So if Dana believes he has the best fighters in the world then shut up or put up.

Im sorry but in this case its fedor who needs to prove that he is the number 1 heavy weight in the world, he has fought lack luster opposition the last couple of years, now is the time to prove yourself.

backseatwitme13

08-02-2009, 02:50 PM

sorry, mentally challenged.

cphafner

08-02-2009, 02:53 PM

Im sorry but in this case its fedor who needs to prove that he is the number 1 heavy weight in the world, he has fought lack luster opposition the last couple of years, now is the time to prove yourself.

Exactly.

ncsuLuke

08-02-2009, 04:28 PM

I wish Lesnar would get in the octagon with Fedor's manager instead of Fedor

backseatwitme13

08-02-2009, 05:55 PM

I wish Lesnar would get in the octagon with Fedor's manager instead of Fedor

Fedor's not a puppet. he could make sure the deal gets done. this is just him hiding behind his manager.

lilotaku

08-02-2009, 06:19 PM

Fedor's not a puppet. he could make sure the deal gets done. this is just him hiding behind his manager.

I agree with you. Fedor's stake/investment in M1 is quite large and I guess its pretty much his nest egg when he retires. I don't blame him for wanting to build it up before his career is over, but I also don't think that he has cemented his legacy as being the p4p best fighter in the world. I'm still hoping they work something out for a super fight some time next year between him and whoever is UFC's HW champ.

I personally am hoping Mirko beats the **** out of Brock and we see Fedor vs Cro Cop 2.

backseatwitme13

08-02-2009, 06:40 PM

I personally am hoping Mirko beats the **** out of Brock and we see Fedor vs Cro Cop 2.

Is Mirko gonna get the chance tho? he's pretty far down the list

lilotaku

08-02-2009, 06:55 PM

Is Mirko gonna get the chance tho? he's pretty far down the list

I think as long as he wins his next 2 fights It will definitely put him in contention. I think Brock is most likely going to fight whoever wins between Carwin/Velasquez. Cro Cop may fight whoever wins between Nog/Couture and that will most likely set him up for a Title shot. Who knows, Brock might get taken out by Carwin/Velasquez....

As for right now, Im pretty excited about Rua vs Machida. Sorta sucks though since I like both fighters. 2 men enter, one man leaves champion.

joey54

08-02-2009, 07:01 PM

Cro Cop fights Dos Santos, which is not an automatic win by any stretch. I hope he does well, but it is going to be tough for him. I would love to see him kick Brock's head off, but at this point that is wishful thinking.

ncsuLuke

08-02-2009, 07:26 PM

If we see the Cro Cop of old we will see him fight Lesnar...Still don't think he would win though

lilotaku

08-02-2009, 07:58 PM

If we see the Cro Cop of old we will see him fight Lesnar...Still don't think he would win though

Shena****ns. If the old Cro Cop were in there, It would be a helluva battle. I'm not going to say he would out right win, but if his take down defense is as solid as it used to be and he kept it standing, Brock would get pummeled. Brock's striking is nowhere NEAR that of Mirko's. At the same time though, if it goes to the ground, I see big trouble for Mirko.

backseatwitme13

08-02-2009, 08:22 PM

the last time i saw cro cop, his face met gabriel gonzaga's foot and they got well-acquianted. i honestly think the old Cro Cop is gone for good, buried in the same cemetery as old Chuck Liddell

WBBIRL

08-02-2009, 08:44 PM

Lesnar would pound Cro Cop with those short "annyoing 2 inch punches that feel like your getting hit by your sister".. you know the ones that turned Mir's face into hamburger.

He's a good deal bigger, way stronger and takes little to no speed disadvantage for the 40+ pounds he has on Cro Cop and can take an incredible amount of pain.

I wouldn't give Cro Cop much more then a min into the second round before he loses by TKO.

His only chance would be to land some big kicks to brocks face at very least two of them.

lilotaku

08-02-2009, 08:52 PM

Well, I hope we atleast have a chance to find out in the coming months. I'll be riding the Croatian anti-terrorist flaming death wagon to victory or ruin.

KoSh

08-02-2009, 08:54 PM

I stick by to what I said before... Fedor is ducking Lesnar. Not necessarily because he thinks he'd lose... But because he knows he could lose. Why blemish his nearly perfect record?

platypus

08-02-2009, 09:52 PM

I stick by to what I said before... Fedor is ducking Lesnar. Not necessarily because he thinks he'd lose... But because he knows he could lose. Why blemish his nearly perfect record?

cuz MMA fighters should not act like pussies.

Travis Bell

08-02-2009, 09:57 PM

Fedor will end up in the UFC one way or another. His manager is a tool thinking he's the one in the seat of power here with all the bargaining chips. The UFC whether you like it or not is the premier fighting place in the world.

Fedor will not be able to find good contenders anywhere else. If he truly wants to fight the best, he needs to go to them. He will (IMO) but it make take a bit of time.

There is no way Dana will ever accept a co-promotion deal. That's a bunch of horsecrap anyways. Why should he have to give away half of what he's made just for one particular fighter? Hes making kajillions as is, he doesn't need Fedor to make more.

08-02-2009, 10:24 PM

These are comedy...

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3369/fedordana.gif

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2678/danafedor2withname.gif

lilotaku

08-02-2009, 10:27 PM

lol, View 1. I first saw those on Sherdog and after see'ing the 2nd one. I remember nearly laughing for a good few mins. Those were both really well done.

ncsuLuke

08-03-2009, 04:54 AM

08-03-2009, 11:48 AM

Fedor Signs with Strikeforce

Fedor Emelianenko has signed a multi-fight agreement that will see the world’s No. 1-ranked heavyweight compete for Strikeforce, the promotion announced Monday.

Emelianenko, who became a free agent after Affliction Entertainment canceled its Aug. 1 event two weeks ago, will make his debut on Showtime under a co-promoted Strikeforce/M-1 Global production this fall. Emelianenko was to have faced Josh Barnett at Affliction “Trilogy” on Aug. 1, but Barnett failed a pre-fight test for anabolic steroids and was refused licensure by the California State Athletic Commission.

Emelianenko, along with his promoters and management team M-1 Global, negotiated with the UFC last week, but could not come to an agreement over co-promotion.

"Strikeforce is a top fight promotion that houses some of the greatest fighters in the world," said Emelianenko in a press release. "I am prepared to fight any of them."

Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker told Sherdog.com last week that he plans to match the stoic Russian against the likes of Brett Rogers, Fabricio Werdum and the promotion’s heavyweight champion, Alistair Overeem.

“I feel pretty confident that we could give him four or five opponents that would make sense for him,” Coker told Sherdog.com in an exclusive video interview.

KoSh

08-03-2009, 01:23 PM

cuz MMA fighters should not act like pussies.

That wasn't a question... It was tongue in cheek.

no you just think that because you are a Lesnar nuthugger

Nuthugger? No. Fan? Yes. Fedor could beat Brock, I've never denied that. But there's a chance Fedor will lose to him. I don't think Fedor is saying a damned thing to his manager because he knows there's a possibility that Lesnar beats him.

Going in to UFC, losing to Brock and not having half the promotion is no good for them.

However going in and beating Brock is good for them. But there's a high risk there.

If Fedor's rat manager got the co-promotion, then losing isn't so bad.

Travis Bell

08-03-2009, 01:23 PM

ncsuLuke

08-03-2009, 04:32 PM

joey54

08-03-2009, 04:56 PM

If history repeats itself, Strikeforce will soon falter like the other promotions. There are a few interesting match ups for him at least. After Lesnar, there is no one else in the UFC I really could care about Fedor fighting. Overeem and Rogers are intriguing.

Blade55

08-03-2009, 05:06 PM

I really don't see Strikeforce going under like the other promotions(Pride, Bodog, WFA, IFL, EliteXC, Affliction) have in the past 2-3 years. Strikeforce has been running in some form or another since 1985.

Travis Bell

08-03-2009, 05:54 PM

Mike G

08-03-2009, 06:32 PM

Course that was before they gave away half their company....

Exactly. Strikeforce has been able to stay around because they didn't spend huge amounts of money. They don't have big name fighters, but now they have the biggest world wide name and had to give up a lot to get him.

I put this squarely on Fedor. There was a good article on yahoo about everything and at the end of the day, if Fedor really wanted to be in the UFC, he would be. As far as the division not being that good, where is there a better HW division? There are some young guys who are on the verge of being top guys, there are older guys who can still fight and there are plenty of gate keeper type guys. Like it or not, the UFC is the biggest stage in MMA.

I still don't buy Fedor ducking Lesnar. If that's the case, then he must have been ducking Timmy, Couture, or AA when he was a free agent in the past. As far as not looking good if he lost, he's fought the top guys in the past, so I'm not sure that's a huge concern. Yes, he could lose to Brock, he also could have lost to AA, Tim, Cro Cop, Nog, Herring..... but he took all of those fights. If he's concerned about his legacy, he would hang it up now, before he does get caught.

cphafner

08-03-2009, 06:42 PM

no you just think that because you are a Lesnar nuthugger

Play nice or you won't be allowed to play! Stop the name calling.

08-03-2009, 07:11 PM

Man that sucks.

He'll certainly beat all of those guys. I wonder why he and his manager are so stuck on co-promotion.

Ah well. I still think he'll eventually end up in the UFC but for now it looks like some more yawn fests for Fedor

Fedor owns a stake in M-1 and is also signed to them as well ( odd but true ). M-1 is an upstart organization and all they really have to offer is fedor. They need to do co-promotion because they do not have the financial backing to do it themselves so they look for other organizations to flip the bill for them so to speak. This is why they have to do co-promotion.

backseatwitme13

08-03-2009, 07:29 PM

Fedor owns a stake in M-1 and is also signed to them as well ( odd but true ). M-1 is an upstart organization and all they really have to offer is fedor. They need to do co-promotion because they do not have the financial backing to do it themselves so they look for other organizations to flip the bill for them so to speak. This is why they have to do co-promotion.

Ban this man!! He is speaking defensively of Fedor and his manager, and using logic. the thread is called "Screw Fedor and his manager". Not "Fedor and his manager's co-promotion makes financial sense."

Slappy

08-03-2009, 07:32 PM

cphafner

08-03-2009, 07:51 PM

Ban this man!! He is speaking defensively of Fedor and his manager, and using logic. the thread is called "Screw Fedor and his manager". Not "Fedor and his manager's co-promotion makes financial sense."

Exactly. After reading today's news I really say screw him and his manager. His legacy will be tarnished if he doesn't get a couple serious fights before he gets old and retires.

08-03-2009, 09:32 PM

Ban this man!! He is speaking defensively of Fedor and his manager, and using logic. the thread is called "Screw Fedor and his manager". Not "Fedor and his manager's co-promotion makes financial sense."

I hope your speaking with sarcasm cause no where am I defending fedor and his manger, I have lost all kinds of respect for fedor after this mess.

method115

08-03-2009, 10:01 PM

Man that sucks.

He'll certainly beat all of those guys. I wonder why he and his manager are so stuck on co-promotion.

Ah well. I still think he'll eventually end up in the UFC but for now it looks like some more yawn fests for Fedor

Well from what I've heard Fedor actually invested in M-1 so if M-1 makes money so does Fedor. Also I heard that Fedor has a contract with M-1 for three fights I think he's satisfied two of those fights and has one left not sure on that though.

What I'm really wondering is how Strikeforce is going to do all this.They were a solid promotion but having to give up the profits they make on every Fedor show could hurt them and turn those shows into negative profit for them. Maybe Fedor will bring in enough to cover his cost who knows.

lilotaku

08-03-2009, 10:46 PM

Well from what I've heard Fedor actually invested in M-1 so if M-1 makes money so does Fedor. Also I heard that Fedor has a contract with M-1 for three fights I think he's satisfied two of those fights and has one left not sure on that though.

What I'm really wondering is how Strikeforce is going to do all this.They were a solid promotion but having to give up the profits they make on every Fedor show could hurt them and turn those shows into negative profit for them. Maybe Fedor will bring in enough to cover his cost who knows.

I would think in a co-promotion such as this, they would be sharing the costs AND the profit 50/50. Coker seems like a smart guy and he's taking the proper steps to establishing a good stake in the mma market. He's taking things slow and not dumping wads of cash on all his fighters like Affliction did.

Regardless I hope Fedor agree's to get into the UFC maybe sometime next year, atleast before his career is on the decline.

backseatwitme13

08-03-2009, 11:01 PM

i hope everyone he fights in strikeforce kicks his ass, and then when he's washed up, he signs a terrible contract with the UFC and Brock lesnar beats his face into mush. i'm sorry but im pissed we can't see the superfight.

method115

08-04-2009, 05:50 AM

I would think in a co-promotion such as this, they would be sharing the costs AND the profit 50/50. Coker seems like a smart guy and he's taking the proper steps to establishing a good stake in the mma market. He's taking things slow and not dumping wads of cash on all his fighters like Affliction did.

Regardless I hope Fedor agree's to get into the UFC maybe sometime next year, atleast before his career is on the decline.

Yea I agree Coker is a smart guy but getting the #1 HW in the world is going to put the pressure of the UFC on them. They never had to deal with that in the past cause the UFC has always left them alone. They were a small org content with picking up UFC rejects which the UFC is ok with and actually wants them to do. I can guarantee you that will no longer be the case as seen by there latest actions. The UFC has now issued a C and D order to Strikeforce concerning there babulu/Mousasi fight and there saying one will be issued for Fedor's fight as well whenever they announce it. According to some there saying UFC might have gotten a hold of contracts through the deal they made with Affliction after it was done promoting and sgined with the UFC. Things could get interesting here...Fedor still had one fight with Affliction.

Travis Bell

08-04-2009, 07:18 AM

Fedor owns a stake in M-1 and is also signed to them as well ( odd but true ). M-1 is an upstart organization and all they really have to offer is fedor. They need to do co-promotion because they do not have the financial backing to do it themselves so they look for other organizations to flip the bill for them so to speak. This is why they have to do co-promotion.

That is why M-1 wants to do co-promotion. That one was pretty obvious

As for why Fedor is insisting on co-promotion is beyond me. He'd make arguably as much money off of PPV fights in the UFC as he will in Strikeforce. Nobody pays out as much as the UFC

jp2

08-04-2009, 07:41 AM

These are comedy...

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3369/fedordana.gif

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2678/danafedor2withname.gif

lol:thumbup:

biggimp

08-04-2009, 11:09 AM

i think it's pretty obvious that fedor and his managers are making the moves that make the most fiscal sense for them. the more they can get m1 going, the more money they can make. i am fairly confident that fedor is more worried about making as much money as possible before he retires rather than pleasing a bunch of whiny guys on internet message boards. man, what an ass, making decisions in his own self-interest. :tuttut:

you guys need to take a chill pill and quit whining.

Gabrielle

08-04-2009, 11:56 AM

d'Anconia

08-04-2009, 02:06 PM

Well last time we wanted a super-fight we ended up with a mediocre Liddell vs Silva fight in which the latter got his ass handed to him. I personally think Brock has enough size on Fedor that, along with no speed disadvantage, makes me think Brock would rock Fedor's world. I'd like to see another promotion company get big to give UFC a run for its money but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen anytime soon.

lilotaku

08-04-2009, 08:02 PM

Even though I am disappointed that Fedor is not going to be in the UFC within the near future, I am excited about the matchups in Strikeforce. Overeem, Rogers, Roger Gracie, Fabricio Werdum, Gegard Mousai, and Renato Sobral(if he moves up a weight class) are awesome matchups before he steps into the UFC octagon.

I think Overeem would be the only true feasible/worthwhile fight for Fedor in strikeforce. Roger Gracie is brand new to the game and has 0 striking ability, but crazy good ground. Breet Rogers imo isn't ready for Fedor, and werdum will get ktfo on his feet. I don't think he would ever Fight Mousasi since they are on the same team.

Babalu vs Mousasi is going to be a great fight. I'm still not fully sold on Mousasi, but he is definitely a big up and comer and will do big things.

backseatwitme13

08-04-2009, 09:13 PM

i i am fairly confident that fedor is more worried about making as much money as possible before he retires rather than pleasing a bunch of whiny guys on internet message boards.

yeah man, you're totally right. the ONLY people who want to see that fight commented on this thread. no one else cares. and who cares if they did? its not like fans keep the MMA companies running or anything.

biggimp

08-04-2009, 11:00 PM

yeah man, you're totally right. the ONLY people who want to see that fight commented on this thread. no one else cares. and who cares if they did? its not like fans keep the MMA companies running or anything.

i doubt strikeforce is going to LOSE business with fedor in their stable.

ncsuLuke

08-05-2009, 04:50 AM

i doubt strikeforce is going to LOSE business with fedor in their stable.

affliction couldn't stay afloat

Mike G

08-05-2009, 07:18 AM

i doubt strikeforce is going to LOSE business with fedor in their stable.

Based on what? Affliction, PRIDE and Bodog all flopped after co promotion with M-1.

Strikeforce has already lost business, because they just gave up half of their profit. Even with splitting costs, they have lost money. Unless Fedor suddenly becomes a huge name in the US, Strikeforce is going to be in trouble. He is a huge name in Japan and he wasn't a big draw in terms of PPV there.

If the UFC decides to compete by airing stuff on Spike during Strikeforce events, it's going to be even worse.

jp2

08-05-2009, 07:33 AM

Based on what? Affliction, PRIDE and Bodog all flopped after co promotion with M-1.

Strikeforce has already lost business, because they just gave up half of their profit. Even with splitting costs, they have lost money. Unless Fedor suddenly becomes a huge name in the US, Strikeforce is going to be in trouble. He is a huge name in Japan and he wasn't a big draw in terms of PPV there.

If the UFC decides to compete by airing stuff on Spike during Strikeforce events, it's going to be even worse.

exactly

ncsuLuke

08-06-2009, 06:45 AM

oh man if the UFC puts on some solid free event on spike during a strikeforce event call it game over...I sure wouldn't doubt dana to do something like that

joey54

08-06-2009, 03:20 PM

oh man if the UFC puts on some solid free event on spike during a strikeforce event call it game over...I sure wouldn't doubt dana to do something like that

That or put UFC 100 on for free.

jp2

08-06-2009, 08:41 PM

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method115

08-06-2009, 10:27 PM

That or put UFC 100 on for free.

Yea I can pretty much guarantee they'll counter program every Fedor fight.

Really I don't see the point. I can't think of one MMA fighter who doesn't speak english and is a big draw in the UFC in the history of NA MMA to be honest. On top of that Fedor is just kind of boring outside of his fights and doesn't look like a fighter at all. Looking like a fighter is a big deal to the casual fans. I see the hard core MMA fans tuning in to see Strikeforce and the casual fans (the ones that matter) wont even care.

I remember one of the CBS shows on network TV did horrible when they didn't schedule Kimbo Slice to fight. It did about half of what they previously did with him on the card.

Thats why I think Strike force is going to lose a lot of money. They'll be spending a lot more and I don't think Fedor will bring in enough to warrant the amount there spending.

I could be wrong though will see Fedor should be fighting in October everyone is saying Bret Rogers but will see.

d'Anconia

08-07-2009, 12:17 AM

You guys are right. UFC will probably crush Strikeforce. I hope it happens soon before Fedor is out of his prime.

If Fedor were an asset outside of the ring then maybe he could market that and try to get a permanent well-paying post in UFC but it doesn't sound like he has much outside of his fighting abilities, especially considering the other organizations he has fought in have gone under.

I don't like UFC getting a monopoly on all this **** but some of these other organizations sound poorly managed. It seems to me like UFC officials realized they could lobby politicians to make the sport (especially events with THEIR rules) legal to have events in the states as well as broadcast almost anywhere.

Lobbying politicians is a ****ty reality that is a good skill to learn.

ncsuLuke

08-07-2009, 07:20 AM

I dont really mind the monopoly aspect, you have the NFL, the MLB, the NBA, etc, etc, etc.

Nobody complains about them being monopolies (yes I understand there is a difference due to teams and whatnot)

d'Anconia

08-07-2009, 10:02 AM

LOL the irony is that you're talking to the one guy who actually doesn't like those monopolies. I personally don't think the steroid thing would be an issue if the MLB didn't have a monopoly. (Mind you those monopolies, especially the NCAA are enforced by the government who passed legislation to favor those organizations, just like UFC has done).

jp2

08-07-2009, 02:14 PM

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slashkills

08-10-2009, 07:44 PM

http://www.tapoutlive.com/media/7599/Fedor_and_co_talk_about_Brock_Lesnar/
wasnt sure where to put this

backseatwitme13

08-10-2009, 08:03 PM

http://www.tapoutlive.com/media/7599/Fedor_and_co_talk_about_Brock_Lesnar/
wasnt sure where to put this

theres no way those are the correct translations. Fedor isn't the kind of guy to go around trash talking respectable fighters. He even said he respects kimbo, but just needs to work on his game more.

Travis Bell

08-10-2009, 09:04 PM

theres no way those are the correct translations. Fedor isn't the kind of guy to go around trash talking respectable fighters. He even said he respects kimbo, but just needs to work on his game more.

It's not. The correct ones are blurred out behind that crap that was typed in. What a dumb video

slashkills

08-10-2009, 09:28 PM

I know it isnt true there is no way. I posted cause i thought that was still a crazy vid.

TremL96

08-11-2009, 09:40 AM

Fedor is one of the fighters I respect the most (even though I've never watched him). He isn't one to trashtalk, he respects anyone who deserves it, and something else that got me was his attitude. He's sort of a conservative guy. He isn't like some UFC guys that take all the publicity they can get and make the most of it. He just trains and fights. Not much to it for him.

TXslapshot

08-17-2009, 02:46 PM

^^^ Fedor's weak and scared of Brock

backseatwitme13

08-17-2009, 05:36 PM

^^^ Fedor's weak and scared of Brock

scared? possibly. weak? hellllll no

Insane

08-17-2009, 06:12 PM

fedor and m1 should go back to Russia.. he can take his padded record with him...

ncsuLuke

08-17-2009, 07:15 PM

fedor and m1 should go back to Russia.. he can take his padded record with him...

lol padded record? How many of the best heavyweights has he not fought? I am pretty sure he has fought/beat the most top heavyweights of anyone.

BilltheButcher

08-17-2009, 08:14 PM

lol padded record? How many of the best heavyweights has he not fought? I am pretty sure he has fought/beat the most top heavyweights of anyone.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Fedor-Emelianenko-1500

He has fought pretty much everyone. Mir, Couture and Lesner only ones missing and Lesner has only been fighting for about a year.

Insane

08-17-2009, 08:28 PM

lilotaku

08-17-2009, 09:57 PM

ok he has beaten alot of great fighters i will give him that, alot of them freak shows and light heavyweights... and most importanly lately they are wash ups... arvloski(UFC wash out), syliva(UFC washout), hon man choi (freak show) , matt lindland (middlewight now) ... lol

nog, cro cop were his biggest wins..

yes his record is impressive(30-1) cant agru that...and better then everyone elses... just like to see him fight some legit heavy weights before he retires...

strikeforce better find him someone decent...

He Fought Nog and Crop Cop at their peak, and I believe that if they were still at their peak they would be unstoppable in the UFC. The wars they have been through have taken their toll. If you look at nog's twin brother and Big Nog himself, you can definitely tell he's been beat to hell. Mirko's had a few major surgeries, so hopefully that'll help him(he's my #1 fighter next to Fedor), but we'll see if he's 100% again during the Dos Santos fight coming up. IMO, I think other than Fedor, I see a 100% Mirko ktfo out of Brock :). I gave Brock respect for fighting well, but I can't support a guy who acts like a little bitch.

I agree with you man, I would really like to see Fedor fight some worthy opponents, but I don't see any in SF right now. UFC is where the competition is at. I'm pretty sure Gegard is going there as soon as his contract is up with SF wether he is still LHW champion or not.

joey54

08-18-2009, 05:33 PM

A Brett Rogers match up still intrigues me more than any UFC match up not named Brock Lesnar or Anderson Silva for Fedor.

chris mason

08-18-2009, 10:24 PM

Dana White always strikes me as a straight shooter. I wonder if that is so?

In any event, I sure would like to see that fight. I would pay for it.

method115

08-18-2009, 11:20 PM

Dana White always strikes me as a straight shooter. I wonder if that is so?

In any event, I sure would like to see that fight. I would pay for it.

Yea thats one of the things I like about Dana White actually. No clue if thats how he really is.

Holto

08-20-2009, 11:06 AM

Fedor will never be in the UFC so long as he's involved with M1.

http://www.fightline.com/news/mma/2009/0818/437590/fedor_emelianenko/index.shtml

M-1 Global co-promoted the Affliction shows and were entitled to 50% of the profits from the shows headlined by Fedor, but they did not fund 50% of the losses from those shows which eventually put Affliction out of business.

UFC (or their reality show) is the single reason why MMA is exploding in North America. They've done a fabulous job of establishing their brand, why would they ever just give that much away to another org.

Travis Bell

08-20-2009, 01:08 PM

I agree Holto.

That's why I was so surprised Strikeforce signed so quickly with them. The same thing will happen to them.

Holto

08-21-2009, 11:37 AM

I just can't believe that M1 isn't (at a minimum) on the hook for 50% of the expenses. The ad/promo budget alone must be 10-20 million. Even if M1 actually had something to offer, the business model they propose is just ludicrous. Fedor is a relative unknown in North America.

Dana is going to bury Strikeforce now...

lilotaku

08-21-2009, 08:35 PM

I just hope that we'll atleast get to see Aleks E in UFC. He seems to think that it is the #1 mma org in the world and showed interest in joining it. I guess the reason he isn't joining immediately is that there is heavy speculation that he either has Hepatitis or his criminal record won't let him get licensed to fight in the U.S. Regardless till its sorted out, he's supposed to fight Blagoi Ivanov outside the U.S.(the guy who recently beat fedor in combat sambo). Blagoi recently fought Fujita and he looked horrible. Aleks is going to ream him a new one.