T-Bomb II

[ElCangri787]

hey just wondering if neone here has ever tried T-Bomb II, n if works good..i been lookin at it n sounds good only thing is, the price...also if it dont work as good wats nother test-boster i can get a gnc...

i have taken novedex xt b4 the results were decent but i kinda want to try sumthin a lil bit different from novedex, dont get me wrong it worked but like a said looking for sumthing other than novedex...

i have research vitrix, t-bomb ii & novedex xt im still kinda undecided..

[Tom Mutaffis]

In general these 'testosterone booster' products are not considered to be worthwhile or effective. They are mostly just marketing products that rely on placebo effect.

If you are interested in boosting testosterone levels naturally then you can look at modifying your diet, training, and lifestyle to help maximize your body.

[vdizenzo]

For the same amount of money you should try ALN's Results http://atlargenutrition.com/nutrition_detail.php?products_id=23 I know it's a different product, but I also know it works.

[NickAus]

Yeah natural test boosters do not work!
Please spend your money on proven suplements.

[getb1g]

I had a friend that took Tbomb. He didnt get any benefits from it other than some more veins popping out. Just a coincidence or are there ingredients in the product that can do that?

[twm]

any number of stimulants that increase heart rate, probably

[Polish Hammer]

Novedex did nothing for me,havent tried T bomb.Im looking into giving results a shot..But from personal experience Competitive Edge Labs M-Drol is VERY effective for gaining mass and strength.Other than that,the best test booster is well,...test.

[Tom Mutaffis]

Novedex did nothing for me,havent tried T bomb.Im looking into giving results a shot..But from personal experience Competitive Edge Labs M-Drol is VERY effective for gaining mass and strength.Other than that,the best test booster is well,...test.

Taking Prohormones / Designer Steroids is a waste.

Will you gain some size? Yes, mostly water weight. But that also comes with a big price - there are many adverse health effects and the sides are actually worse than anabolic steroids in many cases (without the gains!).

Anything over the counter that is supposed to impact hormone levels is not going to be worth your money. If you want to increase hormone levels then there are lifestyle changes that you can make, and then if that does not work you can look into HRT or other options. Things like HRT are not intended for any healthy individual under the age of 30 though.

As Vincent suggested if you want a product that works and is OTC and safe, then Results is one of the best options on the market.

[Polish Hammer]

Taking Prohormones / Designer Steroids is a waste.

Will you gain some size? Yes, mostly water weight. But that also comes with a big price - there are many adverse health effects and the sides are actually worse than anabolic steroids in many cases (without the gains!).

Anything over the counter that is supposed to impact hormone levels is not going to be worth your money. If you want to increase hormone levels then there are lifestyle changes that you can make, and then if that does not work you can look into HRT or other options. Things like HRT are not intended for any healthy individual under the age of 30 though.

As Vincent suggested if you want a product that works and is OTC and safe, then Results is one of the best options on the market.



Whats wrong with "water weight"?If your goal is size and strength,and your getting bigger and stronger,then I dont understand what the problem is?.Im not saying its the best option long term healthwise,but personally Ive remained very healthy.The user needs to educate himself on what he needs to do while "on",and after.Alot of people think if its legal,then you dont need a PCT or SERM.Thats when the problems start. As far as adverse health risks go,sure,theres always that chance.Whether its legal or illegal,any oral compound is risky.Todays pro hormones are very effective but no safer than d-bol,a-drol,etc.But I would never go as far as saying all OTC pro hormones are a waste.Its up to the user to decide that.My advice is to try it for yourself,then decide.I pay $30 for a bottle of M Drol,and its always good for 15lbs and some good strength gains.If I keep half those size gains and strength,Im a happy guy.So as far as not being "worth the money",id have to wholeheartedly dissagree.Take a look at how much money people spend on creatine and protein powders a year,then tell me how 30 bucks is too much.

[Tom Mutaffis]

Whats wrong with "water weight"?If your goal is size and strength,and your getting bigger and stronger,then I dont understand what the problem is?.Im not saying its the best option long term healthwise,but personally Ive remained very healthy.The user needs to educate himself on what he needs to do while "on",and after.Alot of people think if its legal,then you dont need a PCT or SERM.Thats when the problems start. As far as adverse health risks go,sure,theres always that chance.Whether its legal or illegal,any oral compound is risky.Todays pro hormones are very effective but no safer than d-bol,a-drol,etc.But I would never go as far as saying all OTC pro hormones are a waste.Its up to the user to decide that.My advice is to try it for yourself,then decide.I pay $30 for a bottle of M Drol,and its always good for 15lbs and some good strength gains.If I keep half those size gains and strength,Im a happy guy.So as far as not being "worth the money",id have to wholeheartedly dissagree.Take a look at how much money people spend on creatine and protein powders a year,then tell me how 30 bucks is too much.

This seems to be an ongoing debate on many forums... Are prohormones worth it?

Beyond the aesthetics that I mentioned above you also have to look at the adverse health effects that you are facing (which you mentioned in your post as well). Not only do you have to worry about reproductive issues, but in many cases these products are very toxic to the liver and kidneys and can raise blood pressure (also due to water retention).

Would you rather have the illusion of building muscle and then crash a few weeks later, or actually build muscle? If one wanted to simply get bloated you could eat a high sodium, high carbohydrate diet and perhaps add in some creatine to aid in water retention and cell volumization.

For those who are looking for an edge and who are willing to risk their health, then anabolic steroids are a much better choice. I am not saying that anyone needs to use them, I don't use them and I don't recommend them unless you are an elite athlete who is well educated on the subject. The difference between steroids and prohormones is that steroids were created with a medical purpose in mind. They have had clinical research trials done, they have withstood the test of time, and in many cases were manufactured with strict quality control guideliness. Most of the companies who sell pro-hormones are small businesses and who is to say what kind of quality guidelines they are using or what you are actually buying?

Bottom line is that AAS is much more potent and safer than OTC prohormones. You simply have less side effects and a more effective product. The legal risk is obviously there if you are not obtaining them through a Doctor, but hormone manipulation it is one of those scenarios that is 'all or nothing'. It is like going skydiving; would you want to have the best plane and the safest parachute that has been tested for 20 years? Or would you want to have an instructor who just started a few months ago and made the parachute in his basement?

This was not always the case and things like 1-AD did seem to be valuable supplements in the past, and yes I have tried numerous options before just to see for myself. The supplement industry is a multi-billion dollar industry and these products have become somewhat of a joke. If they are not dangerous then chances are they are not effective - so you can either lose your money or lose your health, but either way I would rather just avoid prohormones and designer steroids.

[Travis Bell]

Well said Tom!

I agree. The cost to benefit ratio is just not good.

I think many people just sell themselves short in feeling they need to take something like this, but it ends up doing much more harm than good.

[allan3]

i'd get results b4 i would get into "test boosters" lol.

[allan3]

Yeah natural test boosters do not work!
Please spend your money on proven suplements.

LOL!!!

[ElCangri787]

oooo ight guy thanx a lot i was just wonderin if t-bomb worked for neone here...cuz tbh novedex xt did work for me lol...but ya thanx i been thinkin bout buyin the t-bomb but the price is too much so ill prob wont get it...
other than test booster..wats a good protein i can get..

i have taken:
nitro tech(fail)
muscle milk(ok results)
gnc wheybolic extreme 60(best results so far)

ne one else recomends sumthin diff.

[Tom Mutaffis]

oooo ight guy thanx a lot i was just wonderin if t-bomb worked for neone here...cuz tbh novedex xt did work for me lol...but ya thanx i been thinkin bout buyin the t-bomb but the price is too much so ill prob wont get it...
other than test booster..wats a good protein i can get..

i have taken:
nitro tech(fail)
muscle milk(ok results)
gnc wheybolic extreme 60(best results so far)

ne one else recomends sumthin diff.

I would look into a product like Opticen (PWO, MRP) or Nitrean. Nitrean was picked by Men's Health as the #1 protein in 2008 and 2009. It is a protein blend that contains a high amount of isolates and also has good flavoring / mixability.

You can pick up 2.2 lbs for $25.35.

[ElCangri787]

I would look into a product like Opticen (PWO, MRP) or Nitrean. Nitrean was picked by Men's Health as the #1 protein in 2008 and 2009. It is a protein blend that contains a high amount of isolates and also has good flavoring / mixability.

You can pick up 2.2 lbs for $25.35.

ight men thanx cuz i kinda have to start takin sumthin at least protein, since im in the gym 3+hrs n going hard..only protein i have been taken since i started workin out is the one i regularly get wit my foods...i aslo heard that wen is isolated protein is wen it works the best...but thanx guys ill go with sum protein n thanx for savin my money lol since a good majority said natural test dont work

[NickAus]

One thing I would HIGHLY recommend is ETS from At Large, it will help your recovery like you would not believe.
I did heavy leg training Thursday and it's now Saturday and I have no muscle soreness (on a scale of 1-10 Id say 2)-normally I'd be sore till Monday.
This is a product I will never stop using as I think recovery and good sleep is a big big part of training.
I really don't know why it works so well but I give you my word it works.

[ElCangri787]

One thing I would HIGHLY recommend is ETS from At Large, it will help your recovery like you would not believe.
I did heavy leg training Thursday and it's now Saturday and I have no muscle soreness (on a scale of 1-10 Id say 2)-normally I'd be sore till Monday.
This is a product I will never stop using as I think recovery and good sleep is a big big part of training.
I really don't know why it works so well but I give you my word it works.

ight im really going for the at large nutrition products seem like everyone here has good reviews bout them..to buy them is only online rite there isnt like a retail store i can go n buy them

[Tom Mutaffis]

ight im really going for the at large nutrition products seem like everyone here has good reviews bout them..to buy them is only online rite there isnt like a retail store i can go n buy them

You can purchase AtLarge products direct, and they generally are shipped quickly from the facility in Virginia.

If you are training for 3 hours in the gym that could be counterproductive and lead to overtraining. I would keep your workouts under 20 total sets or 60 minutes, whichever comes first.

Opticen will increase your recovery when taken immediately post-workout and was engineered specifically for that purpose. I would start off there and if you like the results or want to increase your performance you can then add in a product called Results, or Creatine500 if you are on a budget.

Either way I am confident that you will be pleased with the AtLarge products. I have made some great gains over the past year with them.

[ElCangri787]

You can purchase AtLarge products direct, and they generally are shipped quickly from the facility in Virginia.

If you are training for 3 hours in the gym that could be counterproductive and lead to overtraining. I would keep your workouts under 20 total sets or 60 minutes, whichever comes first.

Opticen will increase your recovery when taken immediately post-workout and was engineered specifically for that purpose. I would start off there and if you like the results or want to increase your performance you can then add in a product called Results, or Creatine500 if you are on a budget.

Either way I am confident that you will be pleased with the AtLarge products. I have made some great gains over the past year with them.

thhank yu so much guys for recomending the atlarge products i been readin bout them n really like the way it sounds n the ingredients...
also bout the overtraining i get it iono im just like used to workin out for more than 2hrs since i did wrestlin 4yrs yu noe practices r long..dont get me wrong i dont lift for 3hrs i lift do my sets n then take a break, then go on the stairmaster or treatmill, then workout arms n then go home

[earthbuddy1]

If you are interested in boosting testosterone levels naturally then you can look at modifying your diet, training, and lifestyle to help maximize your body.

Hope im not hijacking, thought the OP might benefit from my question as well.

Could you outline here or point me to some threads that do outline how to maximize t levels naturally? Being that Im almost 44 now, I would like to do everything I can naturally first, and then may choose to try some OTC products if I think they might be needed. Two of my biggest problems so far seem to be clean food partitioning (too much gets stored as fat) and my recovery. I have not been tested for low T levels, but I dont have any major symptoms of low T so I dont think I have an issue that a doc would prescribe HRT for. I dont even know if Id want to be on HRT either. Also I battle high LDL cholestoral as well. My HDL is quite high as well which is good. The doc says that the high HDL is the reason i've not been placed on medication yet. Total is around 280.

[Tom Mutaffis]

Here is an article that addresses raising your testosterone naturally...


13 Ways to Naturally Boost Your Testosterone Levels

By Ron Geraci, Men's Health, December 25, 2000

The normal level of testosterone in your bloodstream is between 350 and 1,000 nanograms per deciliter (ng/dl). Like combable hair, those quantities silently start to wane around age 40. You lose about 1 percent a year -- a harmless decline in the short term, but a cause of obesity, brittle bones, muscle loss and impotence by the time you reach your 60s -- if you live that long. Testosterone levels in the low range (a blood serum score below 350 ng/dl) may increase your chances of dying of a heart attack.

It's not just an old man's problem, either. Men in their 30s and 40s also fall prey to low testosterone counts. It's a disorder called hypogonadism, and it can be caused by an undescended testicle, a testicular injury, a pituitary gland disorder or even prescription drugs. It usually goes undiagnosed until a man hits his doctor with a telltale complaint: "I can't get an erection."

"If you have reduced levels of sexual desire, have your testosterone level checked immediately," says Dr. Allen Seftel, a urologist at Case Western Reserve University Hospitals of Cleveland. You can replenish your testosterone stores with injections, gels, pills or patches, but these medical treatments are no panacea: Side effects include acne, high cholesterol, shrunken testicles and liver damage. Further, don't take supplements like DHEA or androstenedione to boost testosterone; they might increase your risks of prostate cancer and heart disease.

"For men with borderline testosterone scores, I advise them to try to raise their levels through exercise and weight loss before going on testosterone therapy," says Dr. Goldberg. And it might pay to start young. "Since your testosterone declines at a steady rate, it's conceivable that raising your hormone levels naturally in your 20s and 30s could help you maintain higher levels later on," he says. Either way, the reward can be a stronger physique and better bedroom sessions than you'd otherwise deserve. Below are 13 tips designed to get your juice up -- safely.

Get Rid of the Flopping Belly

Or you'll grow a pair of fetching breasts to complement it. Carrying excess body fat elevates your estrogen levels, and that may cause your testosterone levels to sink, says Joseph Zmuda, an epidemiologist at the University of Pittsburgh. Louie Anderson is proof enough of this. Two or three extra pounds won't cause this hormonal shift; it really occurs once you're 30 percent over your ideal body weight. "Unfortunately, that's pretty common now," says Dr. Dobs.

But Lose Only One Pound a Week

When you want to trim down quickly, you probably starve yourself while exercising like a madman. One of the many reasons this stops working in your 30s, when your natural testosterone levels start dropping, is pretty simple: Cutting your calorie intake by more than 15 percent makes your brain think you're starving, so it shuts down testosterone production to wait out the famine. "There's no need to reproduce if you're starving," explains Thomas Incledon of Human Performance Specialists in Plantation, Fla. Ironically, this dive in circulating testosterone stops you from burning body fat efficiently, so you're actually thwarting your hard efforts to melt that tire off your gut.

Skip the Atkins Fad

Research suggests that eating a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet can cramp your testosterone levels. High amounts of dietary protein in your blood can eventually lower the amount of testosterone produced in your testes, says Incledon, who observed this relationship in a Penn State study of 12 healthy, athletic men.

Your protein intake should be about 16 percent of your daily calories, Incledon says. So, if you're the average 170-pound man who eats 2,900 calories a day, you should eat about 140 grams of protein daily, which is about the amount in two chicken breasts and a 6-ounce can of tuna.

Have Morning Sex

German scientists found that simply having an erection causes your circulating testosterone to rise significantly -- and having one in the morning can goose your natural post-dawn testosterone surge. It's a sure bet you'll burn a little fat, too.

Stick With Tough Exercises

To beef up your testosterone levels, the bulk of your workout should involve "compound" weight-lifting exercises that train several large muscle groups, and not just one or two smaller muscles. For example, studies have shown that doing squats, bench presses or back rows increases testosterone more than doing biceps curls or triceps pushdowns, even though the effort may seem the same. This is why doing squats could help you build bigger biceps.

Make Nuts Your Midnight Snack

Nuts are good for your nuts. Research has found that men who ate diets rich in monounsaturated fat -- the kind found in peanuts -- had the highest testosterone levels. "It's not known why this occurs, but some scientists believe that monounsaturated fats have a direct effect on the testes," says Incledon. Nuts, olive oil, canola oil and peanut butter are good sources of monounsaturated fat.

Squeeze Out Five Repetitions per Set

Throwing around 5-pound dumbbells won't help you effect a rise in testosterone. Start off by using a heavy weight that you can lift only five times. That weight is about 85 percent of your one-repetition maximum. A Finnish study found that this workload produced the greatest boosts in testosterone.

Do Three Sets of Each Weight-Lifting Movement

Researchers at Penn State determined that this fosters greater increases in testosterone than just one or two sets. Rest a full minute between sets, so you can regain enough strength to continue lifting at least 70 percent of your one-rep maximum during the second and third sets.

Rest Harder Than You Work Out

If you overtrain -- meaning you don't allow your body to recuperate adequately between training sessions -- your circulating testosterone levels can plunge by as much as 40 percent, according to a study at the University of North Carolina. The symptoms of overtraining are hard to miss: irritability, insomnia, muscle shrinkage, joining the Reform Party. To avoid overtraining, make sure you sleep a full eight hours at night, and never stress the same muscles with weight-lifting movements two days in a row.

Drive Home Sober

To maintain a healthy testosterone count -- and titanium erections -- cut yourself off after three drinks. "Binge drinking will kill your testosterone levels," warns Incledon. Alcohol affects the endocrine system, causing your testes to stop producing the male hormone. That's one reason drinking often causes you to go limp at the moment of truth.

Have a Sandwich at 3 p.m.

As any sensible woman knows, the way to put hair on a man's chest is to fill his stomach. Your body needs a ready supply of calories to make testosterone, so regularly skipping meals or going for long stretches without eating can cause your levels of the hormone to plummet. Then again, that's probably the warden's plan.

Buy the Fried Tortilla Chips

If you want to raise your testosterone score, eat a diet that includes about 30 percent fat, and not much less. Your body needs dietary fat to produce testosterone, so eating like a vegetarian aerobics instructor will cause your testosterone levels to sink drastically. This is bad, unless you actually are a vegetarian aerobics instructor.

Stop Surfing for Porn at 2 a.m.

Sleeping less than seven to eight hours a night can screw up your circadian rhythm. That's why it's no wonder your testosterone levels are higher in the morning after a good night's sleep. So if your work or social schedule keeps you stooped in perpetual jet lag, don't be surprised if you stop craving sex. At least that'll make it easier to stay out of bed.