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Tom Mutaffis
09-22-2009, 02:20 PM
I am just getting back into my training after a couple of intense contests, and noticed that there are some local events coming up. The problem is that they are on the same weekend and so I have to make a choice. Both events are on October 10th so I won't have time to train for either one really.

Option 1: Unsanctioned Strongman Contest - There is an unsanctioned strongman contest that is about a four hour drive each way. They have some good prizes and sponsors, but the weights are quite light compared to what I typically would look for. The promoter seems like a good guy and it would probably be a fun day.

Option 2: USAPL North Carolina State Championships - I haven't done any powerlifting recently but still think that I could hold my own. After checking the records I am confident that I could challenge the North Carolina total record for the 220 lbs open as long as I have a decent day on the platform. This meet is closer to my house, within about 1 hour drive but the entry fee is slightly higher than the strongman contest and I would not win any prizes here (other than a trophy).

I am kind of torn. Not sure if winning a USAPL title would mean anything in terms of building my credibility as an athlete and writer. I think that it would be fun to try something new, but then again strongman is my passion. Under most circumstances I would not even consider a contest when I am just bouncing back, but the weights are manageable enough that it should be fun.

What does everyone here think? Go to a strongman event and get back in action? Or should I try to break some USAPL records?

balance85
09-22-2009, 02:28 PM
I personally think you should try the USAPL. I kind of disagree that it wouldnt help you build your credibility because it shows that you are very well rounded athlete. Also as you said the strongman contest weights are light for you, so I think the PL comp would be more of a challange for you. As far as prizes, im sure you never got into competing in strongman for the prizes/money.

Lones Green
09-22-2009, 02:56 PM
You do a ton of events Tom.

I say try the PL meet, be a nice change. Plus, as stated above, it'd be more of a challenge for you.

JSully
09-22-2009, 02:57 PM
break some USAPL records and hit a strongman next month!!

Travis Bell
09-22-2009, 03:01 PM
I'm going to go against the grain here and say strongman is where your heart is at. It's not about the drive, or the prize money, you obviously have a very strong passion for strongman. An event like this where the pressure isn't so much might be a nice relaxing event for you.

There is always another powerlifting meet. You also need to add in the cost of a membership card as the USAPL will require you to purchase a card in addition to the entry fee.

Clifford Gillmore
09-22-2009, 03:04 PM
Judging from the fact that there is such a limited amount of strongmen on the forum, I dare say you are going to have a lot suggestions to jump into the USAPL.... So yeah, another vote from me :)

Tom Mutaffis
09-22-2009, 03:14 PM
I'm going to go against the grain here and say strongman is where your heart is at. It's not about the drive, or the prize money, you obviously have a very strong passion for strongman. An event like this where the pressure isn't so much might be a nice relaxing event for you.

There is always another powerlifting meet. You also need to add in the cost of a membership card as the USAPL will require you to purchase a card in addition to the entry fee.

This is what I am thinking, that I would probably have a lot more fun doing the strongman event since it is what I really enjoy.

You are right that I don't really care about distances or prize money (I woke up at 4 AM and drove 5+ hours each way to a contest on the same day two months ago just to compete). It is nice to have good quality trophies though - if you win an event you don't want some little plastic one that breaks on the way home. The strongman contest actually has trophies for each event winner as well as the overall placings I believe :)

The only reason for doing USAPL would be to build credibility as a drug-free lifter and to break records. I would not change my training or become a powerlifter so it is more just to prove a point I guess.

I just wanted to hear some opinions on here to see what everyone says.

Tom Mutaffis
09-22-2009, 03:19 PM
Here is the information for the strongman contest. They have a max deadlift and I still have not hit 700 lbs yet so that would give me something to shoot for... although the jumps are 50 lbs so I guess I'd have to try 715 lbs :eek:

2009 Southeast Georgia's Strongest Man

Promoter-Tony Crawford
Date: Oct. 10, 2009
Time 10:00
Location: All Body Fitness Center. 121 Main St. NW. Vidalia, Ga. 30474
Weigh-ins-9:00-9:30
Divisions: LW (220 and under) HW (221+)

Events:

1. Press Medley-dumbbell, keg, log, barbell. 75sec. time limit
(LW) 75, 110, 170, 200 (HW) 95, 110, 200, 230

2. Deadlift-Last Man Standing. Both classes will start at 315lbs. Weight will go
up 50lbs each lift.

3. Medley-Farmers, Frame, Tire sled. 75sec. time limit
(LW) 200, 405, 250 (HW) 250, 455, 250

4. Crucifix Hold for time. 12lb Sledge Hammer in each hand.

5. Stone for Reps. 48 (LW) 200 (HW) 230 60sec. time limit


It will be more of a speed and conditioning event for me. I would hope to finish the press medley in under 20 seconds, pull 665 lbs, finish the medley in under 30 seconds, do alright on the hold, and then hit at least 10 reps with the stone.

The good thing is that based on the events it looks like a safe contest and I would not have to alter my training to compete. There are some strong guys down in Georgia / North Florida so it could be a good battle as well depending on who shows up.

Lones Green
09-22-2009, 03:30 PM
This is what I am thinking, that I would probably have a lot more fun doing the strongman event since it is what I really enjoy.

You are right that I don't really care about distances or prize money (I woke up at 4 AM and drove 5+ hours each way to a contest on the same day two months ago just to compete). It is nice to have good quality trophies though - if you win an event you don't want some little plastic one that breaks on the way home. The strongman contest actually has trophies for each event winner as well as the overall placings I believe :)

The only reason for doing USAPL would be to build credibility as a drug-free lifter and to break records. I would not change my training or become a powerlifter so it is more just to prove a point I guess.

I just wanted to hear some opinions on here to see what everyone says.

I think you pretty much sealed the deal here. If the man reason you'd be doing the PL meet is to build credibility, then I wouldn't do it.

If strongman is where your heart is, go with the strongman comp!

Tom Mutaffis
09-22-2009, 03:40 PM
I think you pretty much sealed the deal here. If the man reason you'd be doing the PL meet is to build credibility, then I wouldn't do it.

If strongman is where your heart is, go with the strongman comp!

Thank you for the encouragement.

Strongman is my passion; that is why I love trying to help people get into the sport, talking about it here on the boards, and competing as much as possible.

I don't think many people stick with strongman unless they really love it. The beating that your body takes would not be worth it unless it is something that you truly enjoy.

Guido
09-22-2009, 03:50 PM
That strongman comp does seem pretty easy, though. I think I would have no problem managing the weights for the lightweights so I'm thinking you would pwn everything in there. Doesn't seem like much of a challenge.

I'd go with the PL comp if only for the challenge alone.

Brian C
09-22-2009, 04:25 PM
I vote Strongman Comp. Like you said, not much to change in training, and still something to shoot for...700. GL Tom

JSully
09-22-2009, 04:27 PM
Where did you get that info at?

I wonder how many competitions near me that I'm missing out on because nastrongmaninc.com isn't showing them.. I looked on that site and didn't see the competition that you posted..

Is there a powerliftingwatch.com of strongman? (that all promotors log into and submit their events)

backseatwitme13
09-22-2009, 06:24 PM
I've always wanted to do a strongman event because they look like an absolute blast. so i'm gonna vote for strongman, but then again, i feel like the colts waterboy trying to give peyton manning advice.

NASAKYCHAIRMAN
09-23-2009, 05:52 AM
The only reason for doing USAPL would be to build credibility as a drug-free lifter and to break records. I would not change my training or become a powerlifter so it is more just to prove a point I guess.

I just wanted to hear some opinions on here to see what everyone says.

Go for the usapl record and get a top powerlifting ranking at the same time! I think it's a great feeling to have records. A record, pr or ranking lets you know that your hard work in the gym paid off. As far as credibility of being drug free. You can compete in a drug tested federations and still get accused of using banned substance. This continues to happen to me. Being drug free starts by looking in the mirror and being honest with yourself.

Have you ever competed with usapl?

Now, go break that record!

brihead301
09-23-2009, 06:36 AM
I'd go with the PL for well-roundedness as the others have suggested.

jthomas
09-23-2009, 08:43 AM
just my opinion, but the USAPL is dumb! Go strongman, it does seem like thats where your heart is anyways

Cmanuel
09-23-2009, 08:43 AM
Tom, you are 23 right? Go and enter the usapl meet and get some junior records in before you're too old!

Tom Mutaffis
09-23-2009, 09:50 AM
Tom, you are 23 right? Go and enter the usapl meet and get some junior records in before you're too old!

Unfortunately I am a couple of years past the cutoff for the Juniors. The open records for North Carolina are within reach and as long as I had an alright performance I think that the total record could be broken.

Does anyone know if the USAPL has an "Elite" classification? This may give another reason for me to compete, simply to add to my strength athlete resume.

In terms of strongman contests I would be looking at doing additional events in November and December regardless of what I decide to do in October. There is still an outside chance that I could go to NAS Nationals in October but I have not trained for the contest and the turnout is looking to be very poor (Less than 1/2 the number of competitors from last year, and less than 1/4 the number from 2007).

Beverly McD.
09-23-2009, 10:51 AM
Tom, I'm not familiar enough with your log to know what you are "bouncing back" from. I'm assuming an injury, and if so I would consider going to the event that is less likely to cause a set-back. Re-hab is bad enough the first time 'round ,lol.

Guido
09-23-2009, 10:58 AM
Tom,

Yes, USAPL does have an Elite classification:

http://www.usapowerlifting.com/lifterscorner/ipfclass.shtml

(they are lsited in kilos)

jp2
09-23-2009, 11:10 AM
Go Strongman! If they weights are light, you'll thrash the competition!

Tom Mutaffis
09-23-2009, 12:29 PM
Tom, I'm not familiar enough with your log to know what you are "bouncing back" from. I'm assuming an injury, and if so I would consider going to the event that is less likely to cause a set-back. Re-hab is bad enough the first time 'round ,lol.

I am just coming back from some overuse and moderate muscle strains. Competed in three heavy strongman contests over a period of five weeks (one of them was a two-day event) and it left me pretty beat up afterward. Am feeling good now and looking forward to pushing things with my training, but I also enjoy competing and figured that either one of these events should be "safe".


Go Strongman! If they weights are light, you'll thrash the competition!

That is kind of how I see it. In one contest earlier this year I actually went into the HW's just so that another LW could qualify for Nationals since I have already qualified 5 times this year. Ended up winning the HW's and qualifying as a HW as well!

The thing about this contest is that the weights in the HW class are actually light even for a LW competitor. There is another contest within driving range about two weeks later with some heavier events, so I may just hold out for that one.

Keep the opinions coming - it is very interesting for me to be able to see what everyone thinks.

allan3
09-23-2009, 05:55 PM
usapl- go give em hell.

Pete22
09-23-2009, 06:06 PM
Do the USAPL meet. Getting an elite total, and breaking some PL records would be pretty damn nice to go along with all your strongman accomplishments.

Jonah
09-23-2009, 06:42 PM
It sounds like you'd have more fun in strongman.

That's what this is all about anyway.

Do the strongman contest.

slashkills
09-23-2009, 06:54 PM
i say compete in the usapl. It would be cool just to say you got records in both strongman and powerlifting. It sounds like it would be more of a challenge for you.

LuNa
09-23-2009, 07:24 PM
You could look at the chances of you doing either in the near future. The chance of you doing another strongman contest is a lot higher than doing a powerlifting contest imo. I would go for the USAPL.

It might also give you that bit more recovery for your next strongman contest.

thewicked
09-23-2009, 10:19 PM
Here is the information for the strongman contest. They have a max deadlift and I still have not hit 700 lbs yet so that would give me something to shoot for... although the jumps are 50 lbs so I guess I'd have to try 715 lbs :eek:

2009 Southeast Georgia's Strongest Man

Promoter-Tony Crawford
Date: Oct. 10, 2009
Time 10:00
Location: All Body Fitness Center. 121 Main St. NW. Vidalia, Ga. 30474
Weigh-ins-9:00-9:30
Divisions: LW (220 and under) HW (221+)

Events:

1. Press Medley-dumbbell, keg, log, barbell. 75sec. time limit
(LW) 75, 110, 170, 200 (HW) 95, 110, 200, 230

2. Deadlift-Last Man Standing. Both classes will start at 315lbs. Weight will go
up 50lbs each lift.

3. Medley-Farmers, Frame, Tire sled. 75sec. time limit
(LW) 200, 405, 250 (HW) 250, 455, 250

4. Crucifix Hold for time. 12lb Sledge Hammer in each hand.

5. Stone for Reps. 48 (LW) 200 (HW) 230 60sec. time limit


It will be more of a speed and conditioning event for me. I would hope to finish the press medley in under 20 seconds, pull 665 lbs, finish the medley in under 30 seconds, do alright on the hold, and then hit at least 10 reps with the stone.

The good thing is that based on the events it looks like a safe contest and I would not have to alter my training to compete. There are some strong guys down in Georgia / North Florida so it could be a good battle as well depending on who shows up.

what i'd give to have an event like that within driving distance around here! jeez