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EatMyWay2TheTop
10-09-2009, 04:46 AM
We're having a little challenge with some of the guys keeping a log here; namely Flynn, Mattburns, Brihead and anyone that feels like entering it. We're all pretty much in the same ballpark strength wise, I'd say somewhere around 1200-1350 raw. We'll go for it the last week of November and lifts must preferably be recorded on video.

PS: Word on the street is that Chris Mason is offering a sponsorship to the winner* :omg:


*That is of course not true :tuttut:

tnathletics2b
10-09-2009, 05:15 AM
When I get done rehabbing my hamstring, I am definitely in...only if I have a chance at the sponsorship though :evillaugh:

brihead301
10-09-2009, 06:49 AM
I'm lucky if I'm even at a 1000 lb. total, but I'll still get in this.

Lones Green
10-09-2009, 06:50 AM
What is the challenge? LOL

3 lift total?

tnathletics2b
10-09-2009, 08:16 AM
What is the challenge? LOL

Ah, very true, no parameters are stated...

Guido
10-09-2009, 08:35 AM
If it's last week of November I could get in on this. I'm probably around a 1310-1330 raw total.

What are the rules? Belts, knee wraps, wrist wraps allowed? Powerlifting rules, I assume?

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-09-2009, 08:55 AM
Yeah I forgot to mention the challenge lol. A 3 lift total. Belts, knee wraps, wrist wraps allowed. Also Im no form nazi but it would be nice to see remotely clean lifts :hello:

Guido
10-09-2009, 09:07 AM
Nice. I'm in for sure.

Brian C
10-09-2009, 09:12 AM
This sounds fun. Im always up for a challenge. At the least it gives some motivation in my workouts. Im in bi tches

KarlMarx
10-09-2009, 10:13 AM
Me too. I'm right around that 1200 number. I've never used knee wraps though, maybe I'll give them a try.

If not a sponsorship, how about we at least weasel/beg for a t-shirt?
haha

Chris???:hello:

Cmanuel
10-11-2009, 01:36 PM
Ill get in on this maybe. I'm going to do a raw meet on the 14th will try to net video there.

I will be in the 181 class, hoping for 1200+

Tim K
10-12-2009, 06:42 AM
I'm lucky if I'm even at a 1000 lb. total, but I'll still get in this.

I'm with you... I'll be happy with a 1050 total. I could shoot for the Masters 165 lbs class. :)

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Nice to see so many people having interest in it. Lones are you in ? I've watched your log occasionally and you're putting up good numbers that'd be nice to get you entering.

Chris Rodgers
10-12-2009, 10:25 AM
I think I will test my maxes with you guys too since I just started my training for an unequipped meet(just belt and wraps). It'll be good to see where I am at anyway.

I know you said you aren't a form nazi, but will you guys be pausing your benches here or just touch and go?

-JM-
10-12-2009, 10:45 AM
I am competeing in an unequipped meet on Dec 5th so I will be working up to my openers the week ending Nov 28th. I will use those.

Tim K
10-13-2009, 07:12 AM
I did a max on bench last night and hit 265 (used wrist wraps). Failed twice at 275 - once because I didn't maintain tightness and once due to lack of leg drive. Really, I just need to get stronger. I've hit 305 at a BW of 190, but now that I've slimmed down to 175 my bench has suffered. I'm old and short... 43 at 5' 6". I'm coming back from an injury - got bucked off a horse and tore up my bicipital tendon. Right now, on a bad day, I can hit 265 bench, 405 squat, and 385 deadlift. That'll give me a 1055 total - knee & wrist wraps + belt. I gotta a lot of work ahead me! :D

Andre518
10-13-2009, 09:05 AM
I would like to try out. My 1st real meet is Nov8th can I use the videos from that to enter? Good luck and lift strong everyone!

Cmanuel
10-13-2009, 09:52 AM
Can we do this in weight classes and not just all for nothing??? Make it a virtual meet.

Tim K
10-13-2009, 04:32 PM
We can use a straight Wilks coefficient and not worry about weight classes... Of course, everyone would have to be honest about their bodyweight.

Cmanuel
10-13-2009, 04:54 PM
We can use a straight Wilks coefficient and not worry about weight classes... Of course, everyone would have to be honest about their bodyweight.

Works for me. Perfect !

slashkills
10-13-2009, 05:32 PM
you guys are all stronger than me but ill get in on this

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-14-2009, 02:04 AM
We can use a straight Wilks coefficient and not worry about weight classes... Of course, everyone would have to be honest about their bodyweight.

Yeah formula seems the best way to go

Joe Black
10-14-2009, 03:03 AM
We're having a little challenge with some of the guys keeping a log here; namely Flynn, Mattburns, Brihead and anyone that feels like entering it. We're all pretty much in the same ballpark strength wise, I'd say somewhere around 1200-1350 raw. We'll go for it the last week of November and lifts must preferably be recorded on video.

PS: Word on the street is that Chris Mason is offering a sponsorship to the winner* :omg:


*That is of course not true :tuttut:

Hey, if you can handle the oprganisation of the competition, we'll definately stump up some prizes for the winners....

I would think it would be a good ideal to nail down the weight classes and people entering by a set date (probably worthwhile having a deadline) and then we know who we're following over the next 6-8 weeks.

Also, drum up a few rules so everyone knows whats expected.

If someone can do that, you'll be happy with our prizes :)

Lones Green
10-14-2009, 03:19 AM
Nice to see so many people having interest in it. Lones are you in ? I've watched your log occasionally and you're putting up good numbers that'd be nice to get you entering.

I would, but I'm training for a meet right now. Plus I'm a gear whore :evillaugh:

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-14-2009, 07:04 AM
Hey, if you can handle the oprganisation of the competition, we'll definately stump up some prizes for the winners....

I would think it would be a good ideal to nail down the weight classes and people entering by a set date (probably worthwhile having a deadline) and then we know who we're following over the next 6-8 weeks.

Also, drum up a few rules so everyone knows whats expected.

If someone can do that, you'll be happy with our prizes :)

Here's what we can do:
- set up 2 or 3 weight classes ( LW & HW or LW; MW & HW)
- get the deadline to Sunday midnight
- get a list of everyone entering it with their BW, best lifts and a link to their training logs if they got one
- ask a couple of pros to volunteer to review the lifts recorded and eventually take a decision if the lift seems illegal (ie a mile high, crazy rebound off the chest, hitching etc...) nothing to drastic but just enough to keep it fair.
- as for the rules I'd say no pause on the chest but if the majority of the lifters entering want one we can do it no problem.

Everybody let me know what you think of the above and if Im missing something and start posting your stats so I can compile it to get something clean and readable.

Cmanuel
10-14-2009, 07:47 AM
I vote to use a formula. That might work best since peoples weights could be all over the place (would hate to exclude people because they are too light or top heavy).

And as far as form goes I vote for strict form such as in a meet. It'll be setup like a virtual meet

Joe Black
10-14-2009, 07:52 AM
Everything sounds good.

The only thing about being tight on form is everyone is going to have an opinion and with differing qualities of recordings, angles etc... I would keep things simple and have perhaps one or two rules and just say if it looks about good, it's good and only if it looks very off, it's not counted and appoint a few people to call it.

Weight classes or formulas both sound good - totally up to you guys.

EatMyWay2TheTop - seeing as you started the thread - it's your call and I'll leave everything down to you...

Once you have made a call on the classes and have the competitors signed up, let's talk and agree the prizes - we'll make stuff worthwhile - I like doing stuff like this.

Cmanuel
10-14-2009, 08:32 AM
What about completing each lift during the same day, instead of spreading them out amongst a couple days, etc.

-JM-
10-14-2009, 08:35 AM
What about completing each lift during the same day, instead of spreading them out amongst a couple days, etc.

This is what I was about to ask. Can it be optional?

bojackson
10-14-2009, 08:50 AM
id like to get in on this...im 220, 35yrs old, football coach, so my training right now is subpar because of in season, but this could be good motivation. plus just got my orange balst results in. taste great. other than the first time i took it(got explosive diarhea) i love the stuff.......what e weight classes? this is jsut belt and wraps? never used wraps, but guess i could get some for this...

slashkills
10-14-2009, 10:12 AM
What about completing each lift during the same day, instead of spreading them out amongst a couple days, etc.

i say same day

Brian999
10-14-2009, 10:16 AM
I would like to be in this also, check out my journal!

Morgan McPherson
10-14-2009, 10:19 AM
I was thinking about keeping it really simple with the weight classes: 150, 175, 200, 225, 250 and up. Basically 5 weight classes. And I definitely think it should be lax on the judging. This is for fun, I wouldn't care if someone bounced a little on the bench. Or was literally 1" above parallel. Ultimately everyone has to submit their lifts and that reflects on them. Take pride in what you post is how I see it. I would also vote that all lifts must be completed in one 7 day period. That way you don't totally screw up your training cycle. And I agree with Hulk, it would be nice to have a couple of "lax" judges, maybe the guys from the At-Large team? I do like the idea of a totally newb competition. There are too many pros on this site that would annihilate us! :nod:

I hope some of those ideas help. And I myself am very excited.

mattburns
10-14-2009, 10:34 AM
I'm in for this whatever the format pal.

Although my total is closer to 1100 at the weight I'm at now it'll give me some added motivation to get closer to 1300 odd.

Butcher
10-14-2009, 11:19 AM
I have a raw meet on the 14th of November, I would be in if that isnt past the deadline. My goal is an 1120 total.

Tim K
10-14-2009, 05:05 PM
I like the idea of keeping things simple. Belt, wrist wraps, and knee wraps allowed - I think that is 'raw', although raw is certainly a relative term these days. BW should be measured Saturday the weekend of the competition. This should keep those ultra-competitive guys from going too crazy trying to cut weight. Its an internet based powerlifting competition folks. :D Videos of a lifter's three best lifts should be posted - i.e., Best lift for squat, deadlift, and bench. If you miss a lift, we don't need to see it. ;-) Lifts should be limited to three attempts per lift - we'll have to take your word that that is all you attempted. All lifts should be done on the weekend of the competition and posted on Sunday. Yes, this gives you two days to hit your lifts - Saturday and Sunday. Again, its an internet competition. :D

I'm happy with a LW, MW, and HW class if we get enough entries (plus a master's class so I can blame my lousy numbers on Alzheimer's). If not, maybe just two classes? Use the Wilkes formula to determine the best lifter in each class and the overall winner. Prizes are internet fame, the recognition of the some of the absolute top names in the game, and possibly a t-shirt, wraps, etc.

As far as a pause on bench, I would really like to see the bar have 'stop' if not exactly a pause - i.e., absolutely no bouncing. All decisions by judges are final. If you tape your lift from a lousy angle and the judge refuses to give you the benefit of the doubt - no crying! If any judge is willing to be swayed by bribery, all monetary arrangements should be made before the competition weekend and the fund placed in the judges Paypal account no later than that Saturday. ;-)

If there are some good examples of videos for the lifts and how the lifts should be performed, please post or link those videos. It'll help the competitors due a better job on their lifts and the videos.

All the above are merely suggestions...

slashkills
10-14-2009, 06:10 PM
I like the above rules except for the formulas. I looked up the wilkes coefficient and i think it makes it harder for the little(er) guys. I say instead of formula just make more weight classes.

DGabe24
10-14-2009, 06:37 PM
I'd be in for some action. 1250ish total around 220lbs...I think some broad weight classes would be ideal.

WHatever though, it's all in good fun.

Cmanuel
10-14-2009, 06:51 PM
I like the formula because it evens the playing field for everyone. It let's me know if my 1200 raw total at 165 is better than a 1350 total at 198 or whatever.

Morgan McPherson
10-14-2009, 07:06 PM
I like the formula because it evens the playing field for everyone. It let's me know if my 1200 raw total at 165 is better than a 1350 total at 198 or whatever.


Plus 1. I like that idea a whole lot better!

Cmanuel
10-14-2009, 09:36 PM
Also guys I would love to set up a nominal entry fee. Something cheap like a minimum of 5 bucks but the catch is to donate it all to a charity like lift strong. I think if you have a good donation and a lot of support then a virtual meet like this could really give wanna be big a lot of good reputation

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-15-2009, 04:02 AM
OK pals, I counted about 15 lifters entering right now. It makes me leaning towards using formula since having 3 weight classes would really water it down.
We could go with best lifter by formula, best lifter by total, best squat, best bench and best dead.

As for the lifts; if you want to do each on different days, go ahead, I myself can not squat bench and deadlift at the same place so Ill have to spread it over the week.

Also I don't want to go crazy on form as it is really hard to tell from a video, just give it your best effort to make it look clean.

I like the donation idea but that's just me, some people might be on a budget so I won't make it mandatory but if you're interested let me know and we'll do something.

We'll continue discussing rules until Sunday then I'll set it in stone so we all could go to work.

Joe Black
10-15-2009, 04:10 AM
Love the way this is shaping up! :)

At the end of the day you could probably discuss rules for the next few months. I agree about just setting something concrete on the Sunday and remember everyone will have to stick to the same rules anyway so as long as they are generally sensible and fair, it'll be fine.

Once I know how many people and what the prize categories are in stone, I'll come up with some good prizes and we'll do something on the charity front too, that's a great idea!

bojackson
10-15-2009, 07:20 AM
are the wraps worth it? how long does it take to adjust to them. i used some ace bandages a few years back, felt kinda weird and restrictive. i imagine the wraps are wayyy better of course....thanks

Chris Rodgers
10-15-2009, 07:27 AM
I like the formula because it evens the playing field for everyone. It let's me know if my 1200 raw total at 165 is better than a 1350 total at 198 or whatever.

What type of formula are you talking about? Like xBW lifted? If so, that favors the little guys and wouldn't be fair to the big guys.

Whatever you guys choose is fine with me. I am just looking to test my lifts either way.

Cmanuel
10-15-2009, 08:12 AM
What type of formula are you talking about? Like xBW lifted? If so, that favors the little guys and wouldn't be fair to the big guys.

Whatever you guys choose is fine with me. I am just looking to test my lifts either way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilks_Coefficient

If anything the coefficient favors heavier guys. Still, its the most widely accepted normalizing tool in lifting so if we are going to use some sort of normalizing factor this should be it.

vdizenzo
10-15-2009, 08:19 AM
I love this. It's such a great idea. I was contacted about being a judge. Please pm me about bribes.

Cmanuel
10-15-2009, 08:20 AM
http://www.isu.edu/~andesean/wform.htm

more on the wilks formula for those interested.

Clifford Gillmore
10-15-2009, 09:50 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilks_Coefficient

If anything the coefficient favors heavier guys.

Errrrr, No it doesn't - It doesn't favour anyone, thats the point.

slashkills
10-15-2009, 10:56 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilks_Coefficient

If anything the coefficient favors heavier guys. Still, its the most widely accepted normalizing tool in lifting so if we are going to use some sort of normalizing factor this should be it.

"The Wilks Coefficient credits heavier lifters with more points than lighter lifters, despite the lighter lifter totaling more for their bodyweight." from the article above

Guido
10-15-2009, 02:43 PM
Wilks is a good normalizing formula that is used by many powerlifting federations (I know WABDL uses it) so I say let's go with it.

I'm in on this for sure. What will be the deadline date?

Cmanuel
10-16-2009, 08:16 PM
Well? Let's get this thing started!

Athos
10-17-2009, 09:03 AM
If it's not too late, I'd like to get in on this as well. I should be a bit above 1300 raw, I don't care what the rules are, wraps or none, weight classes or wilks, just sounds like fun. Great idea, gives a little extra motivation behind training.

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-18-2009, 03:44 AM
OK here we go:

- We'll squat, bench and dead
- The lifts must be posted online before November 30th at midnight
- Wraps, sleeves and belts allowed
- Lift as clean as possible so there's no arguing
- No pause on the bench
- We'll use wilks for the overall standings
- Titles are "Best lifter by formula" "Best total" "Best squat" "Best bench" and "Best deadlift"
- Vinny Dizenzo will review all lifts and will decide if it's good or not
- Someone asked if you could use a video from a meet, yes go ahead pal
Here's a list of the people entering:

tnathletics2b http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129905
brihead301 http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117358
Guido http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57128
Brian C
KarlMarx
Cmanuel http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116464
Tim K
Chris Rodgers http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91763
Flynn http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130394
Andre518
slashkills http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129550
bojackson
Brian999
monk2in1
mattburns http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119560
DGabe24 http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103308
Athos
EatMyWay2TheTop http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123812
Butcher
gooby http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2229212#post2229212
PPlato
johnnyo_99 http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119712
jmccown
Painzer http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119367
endymion88 http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130422
danmac http://wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=122081
powerm64
bob http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=87027&page=99
hug dog http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=117073
kong http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=96364
MightyPittbull
Samsuperjew
Bruteman


You can post a link to your training log if you want people to follow your progress, I'll add it next to your name.

I'll message everyone on the list to make sure everyone is on the same page.

Let me know if I forgot anything.

Cmanuel
10-18-2009, 10:44 AM
If you are going to use wilks formula to compute a normalized total then I would suggest having the lifts done relatively close together time wise since the formula is for a specific weight.

Oh and a link to my log is in my signature.

This should be fun guys.

tnathletics2b
10-19-2009, 04:46 AM
I'm in the middle of rehabbing a piriformis and hamstring pull, so this is great motivation. I'll see where I am at November 30th. My training log is in my sig. Great idea and thanks for doing this!

Joe Black
10-19-2009, 04:56 AM
OK here we go:

- We'll squat, bench and dead
- The lifts must be posted online before November 30th at midnight
- Wraps, sleeves and belts allowed
- Lift as clean as possible so there's no arguing
- No pause on the bench
- We'll use wilks for the overall standings
- Titles are "Best lifter by formula" "Best total" "Best squat" "Best bench" and "Best deadlift"
- Vinny Dizenzo will review all lifts and will decide if it's good or not
- Someone asked if you could use a video from a meet, yes go ahead pal
Here's a list of the people entering:

tnathletics2b
brihead301
Guido
Brian C
KarlMarx
Cmanuel
Tim K
Chris Rodgers
Flynn
Andre518
slashkills
bojackson
Brian999
monk2in1
mattburns
DGabe24
Athos
EatMyWay2TheTop
Butcher

You can post a link to your training log if you want people to follow your progress, I'll add it next to your name.

I'll message everyone on the list to make sure everyone is on the same page.

Let me know if I forgot anything.

Great job, everything sounds spot on.

I wonder whether you might stipulate that the lifts must be done on the week commencing the 23rd just to ensure that everyone does their lifts roughly around the same time and it'll also build some great anticipation as all of the lifts will come in on that week. Could go either way on that one though, your call.

Also, it would be good to start an official thread on this and it can literally be for the ongoing discussion of how peoples training etc is going for their lifts?

I'll get with Chris and work on some prizes and pm them to you. If we're on the same page we can then announce them in the official thread!

gooby
10-19-2009, 09:33 AM
Hey I hope its not too late but could I get in on this? Ill probably end up around 1000 total though.

Tim K
10-19-2009, 09:39 AM
Hey I hope its not too late but could I get in on this? Ill probably end up around 1000 total though.

You'll be in good company - no worries!

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-19-2009, 10:02 AM
Hey I hope its not too late but could I get in on this? Ill probably end up around 1000 total though.

You're added

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-19-2009, 10:04 AM
We're adding 1 week to the deadline. Stay tuned for the prizes, AtLarge stepped up BIG TIME and all you guys will fall on your asses for sure.

Morgan McPherson
10-19-2009, 11:13 AM
I'm sorry, but you clarify what the new deadline will be. And do we have to complete all our lifts in that week or not. Thanks

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-19-2009, 11:23 AM
I'm sorry, but you clarify what the new deadline will be. And do we have to complete all our lifts in that week or not. Thanks

Sorry I should have been more clear in my post. We're adding 1 week for people to enter the competition, we're still lifting at the end of November.

slashkills
10-19-2009, 05:02 PM
How is everybody going to work up to this meet? Im interested in seeing what people are going to do for bench specifically because im not sure if i should try and peak or just max that week like as planned in my westside routine.

Tim K
10-19-2009, 05:10 PM
With the short notice, I'm not going to change my routine. We'll see how it goes. :D

PPlato
10-19-2009, 06:02 PM
Are there any requirements to get in on this competition? As you can see, I dont post often (ever), but have been lurking for awhile. Im currently taking a break from competing in gear, and this seems like a good chance to see where Im at raw currently.

Athos
10-19-2009, 07:53 PM
I won't change my routine either, I am planning to do a meet a few weeks later, so I'll use this as my last max session before I begin reducing my volume. This was a great idea and I really appreciate everyone who is involved in running it.

chris mason
10-19-2009, 08:31 PM
The prizes are going to be pretty good!

johnnyo_99
10-19-2009, 09:21 PM
count me in, work has been crazy but I'll make time and try to work towards a max the last week of November. Great Idea!

DGabe24
10-19-2009, 09:33 PM
I think I'm doing a meet December 5th...wondering how I'm gonna work on maxing out prior to that. Maybe I'll test some openers and submit them to the contest, during the 3rd week of November or something.

vdizenzo
10-20-2009, 09:39 AM
This is such an awesome idea. I'm glad to see so many excited lifters. Remember guys, you are on an honor system here. Please respect it.

Great job by Daniel and Chris backing it. We must always remember how ALN and WBB support us in a very big way.

jmccown
10-20-2009, 09:57 AM
I'd like to enter too. This is totally raw right? I weigh 243 right now. I would estimate 1400-1500 total raw right now.

Painzer
10-20-2009, 10:19 AM
I'd like to enter as well.

BW ~180 estimated total of 1100 or so...

Cmanuel
10-20-2009, 10:27 AM
Painzer and myself are doing a meet November 14th. I'm not sure if we will be using a mono lift or not for squats. Will they still count?

Sidior
10-20-2009, 10:59 AM
This looks like lots of fun, I will be checking this thread often to see how everyone progresses.

Darracq
10-20-2009, 11:57 AM
So there are going to be guys with 1500-1600 lb totals in this? Maybe they should set one up for the under 1000 group

Chris Rodgers
10-20-2009, 12:00 PM
So there are going to be guys with 1500-1600 lb totals in this? Maybe they should set one up for the under 1000 group


They are going to use the Wilks Formula to determine the winners. This way it will be a more level playing field, regardless of bodyweight.

Darracq
10-20-2009, 12:03 PM
You win lol.

Chris Rodgers
10-20-2009, 12:10 PM
Haha, there are a lot of guys with similar strength ranges. I think it will be a very good comp.

This is a calculator that you can just plug your BWT and Total into to calculate your Wilks total(you just have to convert them to kilos).


http://www.angelfire.com/nj/sports22/wilkscalc.html

Darracq
10-20-2009, 12:18 PM
Should be fun to see what happens, i would just like to see something for the lower end guys.

vdizenzo
10-20-2009, 12:20 PM
Don't ever be intimidated by someone else's numbers. If you are doing this, do it for yourself. Enjoy your journey through strength because there is no finish line.

Tim K
10-20-2009, 12:38 PM
...and Wilks has an age component to it too. Helps us old dogs compete with you whippersnappers!

Darracq
10-20-2009, 12:49 PM
That might help if i could say i was 70 lol.

Hazerboy
10-20-2009, 01:21 PM
Oh man I would have a shot at this, but I have a meet coming up december 12th. Toooooo bad!

DGabe24
10-20-2009, 01:27 PM
Oh man I would have a shot at this, but I have a meet coming up december 12th. Toooooo bad!

I have on Dec. 5th....what makes you say that? (just curious)

Lones Green
10-20-2009, 01:32 PM
I have on Dec. 5th....what makes you say that? (just curious)

It would mess up his training cycle, I'm not doing it for the exact same reason

Cmanuel
10-20-2009, 01:43 PM
Painzer and myself are doing a meet November 14th. I'm not sure if we will be using a mono lift or not for squats. Will they still count?

Reposting.

Do monolift squats count?

Cmanuel
10-20-2009, 01:48 PM
Also, I would still like to throw out the idea of possibly creating a paypal account and opening it up for donations. I mean, if ALN is willing to put up such nice prizes for this, the least each entrant could do would be to donate 10-15 bucks to a cancer research foundation. I dont know about you guys but I have lost a few family members to cancer and I would be more than willing to donate some money.

Tim K
10-20-2009, 01:56 PM
I don't see why a monolift won't count - this event is for fun. I'm not changing my training except that I'll be taking a max at the end of November. I'll get what I get. :D I'm sure people will point their fingers and laugh too. Its all good - as long as I hit depth on squats!

endymion88
10-20-2009, 02:01 PM
i'm in. could use the money for some supps plus it sounds like it would be fun. bw 210~ total should be around 1450-1500. is the best lift done by formula as well or is it just whoever lifts the most in said lift wins?

Tim K
10-20-2009, 03:20 PM
Should be fun to see what happens, i would just like to see something for the lower end guys.

My total isn't going to be anything stellar either. Matter of fact, I'm sure I'm gonna get my arse handed to me - but that isn't what this competition is about. Its about having fun, showing others your lifts, having a good time.

Darracq
10-20-2009, 03:30 PM
My total isn't going to be anything stellar either. Matter of fact, I'm sure I'm gonna get my arse handed to me - but that isn't what this competition is about. Its about having fun, showing others your lifts, having a good time.



Thats cool.So should a guy get in it with well under a 1000 total.

endymion88
10-20-2009, 04:46 PM
things like these are for fun and give you great motivation to get strong. i'd get in it if i had a 800 total.

MPB
10-20-2009, 04:49 PM
I'm a little late, but is it still alright for me to hop on this? This sounds pretty fun.

slashkills
10-20-2009, 05:37 PM
Thats cool.So should a guy get in it with well under a 1000 total.


Dude get in on it. Im lucky to have a 750lb total
bench 205 now
squat 245now
deadlift 315now
and i say now cause im expecting a higher total at the end of november

Tim K
10-20-2009, 06:30 PM
Heck yeah! Everyone should get in on this! Vinny is the judge, he'll determine if anyone might be 'too' strong for the strongest of the weak competition. You can't be disqualified for being too weak, but you might get the boot if you are too strong. That makes it the perfect competition for all of us!


I've heard rumors that Vinny's judging is arbitrary and capricious. Also, any complaints about judging has to be submitted in writing on the back of a $50 bill BEFORE the competition takes place.

DGabe24
10-20-2009, 08:36 PM
It would mess up his training cycle, I'm not doing it for the exact same reason

Ah, I have a meet Dec. 5th...maybe I'll hold off to. I'll have to ask Tone if we can work this into my cycles. Otherwise, I may have to withdraw.

chris mason
10-20-2009, 08:49 PM
You know, the idea of an entrance fee may not be all that bad? We would put all of it back into prize monies. Say it was $10 each, with enough people that would add some decent cash to the payout... Hmmm..... What do you guys think?

endymion88
10-20-2009, 08:51 PM
well i hope i'm not too strong because i honestly could use a shot at getting some free supplements. i put alot of work into my training to get where i'm at and i'd hate to not be allowed because other people don't work as hard... not trying to sound dumb it'd just be insulting lol

endymion88
10-20-2009, 08:53 PM
how much of it would reach the payout? would the entrance fee go to donations or just to help fund the payouts? otherwise not a bad idea

Darracq
10-20-2009, 09:52 PM
well i am unimployed, so that would put me out for sure. i guess i am in if its free, and you dont have to worry about me winning lol.

Cmanuel
10-20-2009, 09:54 PM
I would be willing to put in $10. Thats almost the cost of a movie, and i'm sure this thread/contest will give me as much entertainment as a movie

Tim K
10-21-2009, 05:43 AM
well i hope i'm not too strong because i honestly could use a shot at getting some free supplements. i put alot of work into my training to get where i'm at and i'd hate to not be allowed because other people don't work as hard... not trying to sound dumb it'd just be insulting lol

Others work just as hard. Some might even work harder but don't have as much experience or time under the bar. Others might be recovering from injuries and still others might be battling Father Time. Perhaps its a combination of all three.

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-21-2009, 06:17 AM
I've added everyone that asked for it. We're now 25.

CManuel: Monolift squats are OK in my book; go ahead
Chris Rodgers: Thanks for the wilks calculator. I had a headache just looking at how to calculate with the formula.
Chris Mason: The entrance fee would be great and add even more to the already great prizes but I fear some people here could not afford it and since I didnt talk about it in the first place I would hate to have to throw them out just because they can't pay.
Now as CManuel put it, we could open a paypal account for people entering to make donations and all funds go to charity.

TO EVERYONE ENTERING: IT IS STRONGLY SUGGESTED YOU START A TRAINING LOG HERE IF YOU DONT ALREADY HAVE ONE

slashkills
10-21-2009, 06:27 AM
my log is in my sig

Butcher
10-21-2009, 09:25 AM
my log is in my sig

same here

Darracq
10-21-2009, 10:04 AM
Can i get in, my body is pretty beat up but i have wanted to do one of these for awhile.

endymion88
10-21-2009, 10:33 AM
Others work just as hard. Some might even work harder but don't have as much experience or time under the bar. Others might be recovering from injuries and still others might be battling Father Time. Perhaps its a combination of all three.

i'm still a new lifter. august was my third year anniversary of training. i've done one competition. but hell i'd just like to know if i can participate in this (i dont know how too strong is for a competition like this) because it's the first time during my training an opportunity has come up where i might gain something fromthe hours i kill myself in the gym lol.

gooby
10-21-2009, 11:58 AM
just started a journal... http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2229212#post2229212

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-21-2009, 12:00 PM
i'm still a new lifter. august was my third year anniversary of training. i've done one competition. but hell i'd just like to know if i can participate in this (i dont know how too strong is for a competition like this) because it's the first time during my training an opportunity has come up where i might gain something fromthe hours i kill myself in the gym lol.

You're in pal. Do you already have a log here ?

Painzer
10-21-2009, 12:08 PM
I agree about NOT having an entry fee. I think that will knock out a lot of people that are wanting to do this, especially those of us who know we have no chance of winning. This is just a good competition to push people to do better. There are only a few who really have a chance to win.

chris mason
10-21-2009, 12:12 PM
I've added everyone that asked for it. We're now 25.

CManuel: Monolift squats are OK in my book; go ahead
Chris Rodgers: Thanks for the wilks calculator. I had a headache just looking at how to calculate with the formula.
Chris Mason: The entrance fee would be great and add even more to the already great prizes but I fear some people here could not afford it and since I didnt talk about it in the first place I would hate to have to throw them out just because they can't pay.
Now as CManuel put it, we could open a paypal account for people entering to make donations and all funds go to charity.

TO EVERYONE ENTERING: IT IS STRONGLY SUGGESTED YOU START A TRAINING LOG HERE IF YOU DONT ALREADY HAVE ONE

Who can't afford $10? Lol... Now, I can understand someone not WANTING to pay $10, but anyone with internet access has an extra $10 floating around.

It's not a big deal, but it might significantly enhance the prizes, so why not take a vote from everyone committed and if the vast majority are cool with it then do it? If there is anyone who truly could not afford it, we could give them a pass.

If not, no big deal. It was just an idea.

jmccown
10-21-2009, 12:21 PM
post a poll on whether to do the $10 entry fee.

Tim K
10-21-2009, 12:29 PM
I'm in for $10.

endymion88
10-21-2009, 12:39 PM
i agree with ten dollar fee.

endymion88
10-21-2009, 12:40 PM
You're in pal. Do you already have a log here ?

yes sir i just wrote up a few months of training so you guys could see what's going on. heres the link http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130422

danmac
10-21-2009, 03:32 PM
Can i still join in?
I am competing in an IPF meet on november 28th i think raw (well with knee wraps). My former total is in the 1200s somewhere. Who knows where it is now, i have been training in gear for a while now.

powerm64
10-21-2009, 06:58 PM
Is it to late to enter this contest??

chris mason
10-21-2009, 08:09 PM
I believe the entry deadline is the 25th. You can read about the prizes here: http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130386

Bob
10-21-2009, 10:17 PM
Can us old farts join in?:fart:
Sounds cool... like the squatting contests we had a few years ago.. :
225 for reps: http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89203
315 for reps: http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97291

I'm in.. recovering from a torn hammie and a torn thumb.. but what the heck, the fun is in the journey... and by Nov. 30th, it should tell me if I'm ready to compete on Dec. 12th.

Right now, best raw comp lifts (last yr) - 480 SQ, 340 BP, 515 DL @ 242..
best raw gym lifts - 525 SQ, 365 BP, 585 DL @ 250-ish

Journal.. not updated, but will try.. is in my sig...

Question: Do all 3 lifts have to be done in the same workout? or same day?

endymion88
10-21-2009, 10:22 PM
Can us old farts join in?:fart:
Sounds cool... like the squatting contests we had a few years ago.. :
225 for reps: http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89203
315 for reps: http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97291

I'm in.. recovering from a torn hammie and a torn thumb.. but what the heck, the fun is in the journey... and by Nov. 30th, it should tell me if I'm ready to compete on Dec. 12th.

Right now, best raw comp lifts (last yr) - 480 SQ, 340 BP, 515 DL @ 242..
best raw gym lifts - 525 SQ, 365 BP, 585 DL @ 250-ish

Journal.. not updated, but will try.. is in my sig...

Question: Do all 3 lifts have to be done in the same workout? or same day?

i believe all three in one weekend

hug dog
10-22-2009, 08:12 AM
Well I just started lifting again but it would give me a good goal. I will get destroyed but put me down. My log in in my sig. I would be happy to send $10 if needed. The last meet I went to the people lifting had to pay close to $100.

Kong
10-22-2009, 09:14 AM
Yeah i'm in!

EatMyWay2TheTop
10-22-2009, 10:26 AM
Everyone's been added

Samsuperjew
10-24-2009, 08:07 PM
can i join in? i'm new on this forum, but have been around for a while

hopefully i wont get my ass whipped too bad

181 lbs if it matters


just curious though, are we going to do regular wilks, or age adjusted?

Tim K
10-24-2009, 08:58 PM
I hope we are doing age adjusted.... LOL

bojackson
10-25-2009, 09:38 AM
how and whre do we post our logs?

Morgan McPherson
10-25-2009, 10:37 AM
Why do you want us to post a training log? I do not understand that at all.Also, I am in for $10, maybe 5 goes to charity (Lift Strong perhaps), and 5 goes to prizes. Just an idea. And everyone has $10, seriously. We have all paid 10x that amount to enter a contest that did not offer any prizes, and all we ever got was a crap trophy. Plus, this is great fun.

Bruteman
10-25-2009, 11:30 AM
I need some motivation. I'd like to join in on the fun too. My journal link is in my sig. I'm currently 195ish and my total is probably under 1100 at the moment.





EDIT: hehe, guess a link to my journal isn't of much use if I don't keep it updated. Need to get back to posting workouts again.

Cmanuel
10-25-2009, 12:01 PM
Also, I am in for $10, maybe 5 goes to charity (Lift Strong perhaps), and 5 goes to prizes. Just an idea. And everyone has $10, seriously. We have all paid 10x that amount to enter a contest that did not offer any prizes, and all we ever got was a crap trophy. Plus, this is great fun.

^This. Anyone surfing the internet can afford 10 dollars for an entry fee

Darracq
10-25-2009, 12:32 PM
^This. Anyone surfing the internet can afford 10 dollars for an entry fee

Maybe there are some kids on here, that are on the parents computer, and they have no job, there are a lot of things that could be going on in poeples lives where there is more importate things to do than pay 10$ to get in this thing.

endymion88
10-25-2009, 12:56 PM
pawn something a the pawn shop :D

Kiaran
10-25-2009, 01:06 PM
How did I miss this? Someone mentioned today is the deadline...mind if I jump in on this? Sounds like a good cause, who's collecting the money and where do I sign up?

Darracq
10-25-2009, 01:10 PM
pawn something a the pawn shop :D

I was thinking of that, but why would someone do that when they have no chance of wining anything. I say if you have it then fine.Doesnt matter to me as i am not doing it. but i am sure there are other people thinking the same thing but are afraid to say it. I am not going to say any more, just put of some thing to think about.

Travis Bell
10-25-2009, 02:08 PM
There is no entry fee for this competition, that was an idea that was discussed for further competitions down the road that we may use. $10 really isn't a big deal and can add to the motivation of the contest.

If you're not doing the contest, stop arguing about the entry fee. It has no bearing on you.

I believe the entry date was Friday and the lifts need to be done this weekend.

EatMyWayToTheTop will correct me if Im wrong though

Travis Bell
10-25-2009, 02:09 PM
Oh, and the Wilks is just the regular Wilks, not the age adjusted

Cmanuel
10-25-2009, 02:19 PM
I thought today was deadline and end of November would be when lifts need to be completed by?

Tim K
10-25-2009, 02:23 PM
Lifts should be the end of November.

Travis Bell
10-25-2009, 02:38 PM
Ah, you guys are correct, my mistake lol.

Next time we'll have this all straightened out beforehand and have a flyer to post so this isn't confusing to all.

Joe Black
10-25-2009, 04:06 PM
lol, there seems to be a bit of confusion on things like entry fees and deadlines etc. It's just because this competition stemmed from an idea by EatMyWay2TheTop and has grown from there.

Don't worry, EatMyWay2TheTop will clarify everything in a new official comp thread in the next day or so. Those who are taking part, their journals, deadlines and rules etc will be confimed in this thread... Then the new thread that EatMyWay2TheTop creates will be THE official thread between now and the end of the competition.

Just to clarify a few things now though.

The deadline for entering is TODAY. Just let EatMyWay2TheTop know in this thread if you want to join and he will get you added.

There is NO entry fee for this competition. There may be for future competitions, but NOT for this one. But, if you're moaning about spending a nominal $10 on an entry fee when there has been nearly $1000 worth of prizes put up, well.. I'm not sure what to say lol. You either enter or don't.. Don't whinge about $10...

Kiaran
10-25-2009, 05:26 PM
Sounds good. Count me in on this thread.