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Polish Hammer
10-22-2009, 08:35 AM
Probably the most impressive Raw benching Ive ever seen. The first set puts his Raw max around 740. The second around 670.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO6buEbEvQo

chris mason
10-22-2009, 08:40 AM
That IS very impressive if it is real. If so, the dude needs to compete.

Polish Hammer
10-22-2009, 08:41 AM
That IS very impressive if it is real. If so, the dude needs to compete.

Says he tore his pec this March. Heres another of him overhead pressing 315 for 10.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FG80RTYYCY

Ben Moore
10-22-2009, 08:45 AM
That IS very impressive if it is real. If so, the dude needs to compete.

Why would it not be real?

chris mason
10-22-2009, 08:59 AM
Why would it not be real?


Why? Why would you ask that question? I think the answer is obvious? People fake things. Pressing like that would make him one of the strongest benchers ever.

NASAKYCHAIRMAN
10-22-2009, 09:58 AM
One of the comments on the youtube site
sc2875 " He just set some New American records today at a USPF meet in Parkersburg, WV. He did 723lbs bench press at a bodyweight of 275lbs, and this was in a stock single ply rage x. This was the highest bench press ever in the USPF. The guy is for real"

=Travis=
10-22-2009, 10:07 AM
One of the comments on the youtube site
sc2875 " He just set some New American records today at a USPF meet in Parkersburg, WV. He did 723lbs bench press at a bodyweight of 275lbs, and this was in a stock single ply rage x. This was the highest bench press ever in the USPF. The guy is for real"

http://wvuspf.com/Meet%20Docs/2009%20Patriot%20Benchpress%20and%20Deadlift%20Championships%20Results.pdf

Ben Moore
10-22-2009, 12:23 PM
Well whatya know. It is real...

Ben Moore
10-22-2009, 12:26 PM
Why? Why would you ask that question? I think the answer is obvious? People fake things. Pressing like that would make him one of the strongest benchers ever.believe it or not Chris, even in this cynical day and age people still ask questions to undertand reasoning and thought processes

Saverio
10-22-2009, 12:28 PM
Wow! I'm not sure what to say about that. Ryan Kennelly holds the all time bench record with a 1079 lb. bench and he can "only" do 405 for 20.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIPKxYIFJU

Polish Hammer
10-22-2009, 01:02 PM
Does Mendelson still hold the all time best Raw bench at 715? I think Winters did that also. If that record still holds, then technically, this guy can break that. At least he's capable of breaking it anyway.

Travis Bell
10-22-2009, 01:51 PM
Mendelson holds the record, Nick's best contest bench is 650 though.

This guy is stupid strong, however I think if he was capable of breaking the raw record, he wouldn't be wearing a bench shirt to get a bit over the 700lb mark.

chris mason
10-22-2009, 02:41 PM
believe it or not Chris, even in this cynical day and age people still ask questions to undertand reasoning and thought processes


The answer was self-evident in my opinion. I felt your asking the question was somehow trying to spark something.

tballz
10-22-2009, 02:44 PM
He makes that weight look light.

taylor26
10-22-2009, 02:48 PM
impressive...

formerbencher
10-22-2009, 03:30 PM
i saw this guy at the arnold at the mhp booth bench his body weight 50 times and stop.....i was wondering who the **** he was

thewicked
10-22-2009, 03:40 PM
WOW what a bench press!


yeah if he was near the raw record a shirted bench would put him in the 720's...though i'm sure he could do 600plus benching like that! How motivating!

Polish Hammer
10-22-2009, 03:56 PM
Mendelson holds the record, Nick's best contest bench is 650 though.

This guy is stupid strong, however I think if he was capable of breaking the raw record, he wouldn't be wearing a bench shirt to get a bit over the 700lb mark.

I read a Critical Bench article once that claimed Winters hit 715 for almost 2 reps in training. But it could be BS. Ive never seen any video of it so who knows. All I know is that he made 500 look real easy.

Travis Bell
10-22-2009, 04:22 PM
I read a Critical Bench article once that claimed Winters hit 715 for almost 2 reps in training. But it could be BS. Ive never seen any video of it so who knows. All I know is that he made 500 look real easy.

I think Nick has done it in training, I misunderstood your post to mean in competition.

Ben Moore
10-22-2009, 05:34 PM
The answer was self-evident in my opinion. I felt your asking the question was somehow trying to spark something.

Sorry, I don't immediately think a video is fake when I see it. I like to give everyone their fair chance before I write them off. Just curious if you knew something the rest of us didn't.

vdizenzo
10-22-2009, 05:53 PM
I read a Critical Bench article once that claimed Winters hit 715 for almost 2 reps in training. But it could be BS. Ive never seen any video of it so who knows. All I know is that he made 500 look real easy.

I hit 715 for a double raw once. I did it up in Canada when I was visiting my girlfriend. I was so pissed the batteries were out in my camera. Figures.

HICK
10-22-2009, 08:25 PM
Nick Winters is a beast . Mike Wolfe had Nick as a guest lifter at his Christmas charity bench meet , he put up 650 like a joke .

Polish Hammer
10-23-2009, 04:33 AM
I hit 715 for a double raw once. I did it up in Canada when I was visiting my girlfriend. I was so pissed the batteries were out in my camera. Figures.

Vin, that puts you at about a 760 1RM. Insane!

Lones Green
10-23-2009, 05:48 AM
Vin, that puts you at about a 760 1RM. Insane!

.....

Barbaccio
10-23-2009, 06:18 AM
I was there when Vin did it. Well, he sent me out to the car for the batteries when he did it, but I was THERE!

Polish Hammer
10-23-2009, 06:25 AM
.....

Lones, are you confused? Haha

Sidior
10-23-2009, 06:41 AM
This thread is full of awesomeness.

Cmanuel
10-23-2009, 07:43 AM
strong bastard

Lones Green
10-23-2009, 08:05 AM
This thread is full of awesomeness.

I'm glad someone else thinks this too, LOL

Sidior
10-23-2009, 08:15 AM
Lones, are you confused? Haha

You do realize Vinny was being facetious when he made the comment about doubling 715 eh?

vdizenzo
10-23-2009, 08:46 AM
I was there when Vin did it. Well, he sent me out to the car for the batteries when he did it, but I was THERE!

I had just finished when you came back. I probably should have waited. I just wanted to prove I could do it without a liftoff and a spot.

C.Pop
10-23-2009, 09:52 AM
I was Vin's girlfriend. Only in Canada though.

Polish Hammer
10-23-2009, 09:57 AM
You do realize Vinny was being facetious when he made the comment about doubling 715 eh?

Yes. Pretty sure Vinnie benched 570 raw and barely missed 600 this year. (Correct me if Im wrong Vin). Guess I didnt do so good playing along.

Travis Bell
10-23-2009, 10:00 AM
Splitting hairs I guess but Vin nailed a 605 and narrowly missed 620

Polish Hammer
10-23-2009, 10:03 AM
Splitting hairs I guess but Vin nailed a 605 and narrowly missed 620

I stand corrected. I knew he hit 600 back in 07'.

vdizenzo
10-23-2009, 10:04 AM
Splitting hairs I guess but Vin nailed a 605 and narrowly missed 620

Mother f'n spotter jacked me on the right side of the 620. I get pissed everytime I watch it. The messed up thing is I know the guy. I wonder if he was out to get me.

Thanks for noticing Trav. Smooches.

AFstud066
10-23-2009, 02:52 PM
I believe allen baria is good for around a 650 raw, that is what I was told he was doing in training before his 723 or whatever he did. I think he is from charleston, wv

Erik 23
10-23-2009, 08:43 PM
I hit 715 for a double raw once. I did it up in Canada when I was visiting my girlfriend. I was so pissed the batteries were out in my camera. Figures.

Lol i never seen Nick when he did that 715 for a double but i can say he is no doubt strong enough to do it ive seen him smash Sick weights raw time and time again.

And about allen baria i think he is the real deal he benched in front of me at the arnold in the mhp booth, he repped 275 like 50 times and could have done a lot more. Also i thought i seen he has like a usapl record of like 730+ or something lol.

deeder
10-23-2009, 09:03 PM
I hit 715 for a double raw once. I did it up in Canada when I was visiting my girlfriend. I was so pissed the batteries were out in my camera. Figures.


I was there when Vin did it. Well, he sent me out to the car for the batteries when he did it, but I was THERE!

Pft.. Fake... This Vincent guy probably can't even bench 225lbs. What a pussy.

Oh yeah, and I've done 500lbs x 11 so this doesn't impress me. I didn't even wear wrist wraps so it was even more raw than the little wimp in the video.

Also, I am way more awesome than all of you. Just thought I'd let you all know....

:evillaugh::evillaugh::evillaugh::evillaugh::evillaugh::evillaugh::evillaugh::evillaugh:

chris mason
10-23-2009, 09:06 PM
Lol i never seen Nick when he did that 715 for a double but i can say he is no doubt strong enough to do it ive seen him smash Sick weights raw time and time again.

And about allen baria i think he is the real deal he benched in front of me at the arnold in the mhp booth, he repped 275 like 50 times and could have done a lot more. Also i thought i seen he has like a usapl record of like 730+ or something lol.

I REMEMBER him. He just kept going and going and going with the 275 lbs. When he hit 50 reps his cadence had not slowed at all. I remember seeing the expression on Jeremy Hoornstra's face. He just kind of looked over at Jay Fry like "WTF was that?"

BigCorey75
10-23-2009, 09:11 PM
Mendelson holds the record, Nick's best contest bench is 650 though.

This guy is stupid strong, however I think if he was capable of breaking the raw record, he wouldn't be wearing a bench shirt to get a bit over the 700lb mark.

I basically said this same thing about this same video when it was posted in the BB training forum, and you blasted me for it??


hahaha funny...

I know mendelson benches 1079 and can "only" do 405 20 times, and this guy did 405 25 times and needed a shirt to get 700.


see why i was skeptical of the vid. no doubt the guy is stupid strong but people still fake videos to inflate egos

Lones Green
10-23-2009, 09:35 PM
I basically said this same thing about this same video when it was posted in the BB training forum, and you blasted me for it??


hahaha funny...

I know mendelson benches 1079 and can "only" do 405 20 times, and this guy did 405 25 times and needed a shirt to get 700.


see why i was skeptical of the vid. no doubt the guy is stupid strong but people still fake videos to inflate egos

You mean Kennelly?

vdizenzo
10-23-2009, 09:38 PM
Talk is cheap and so are gym lifts. There are plenty of strong guys, but I personally really don't care about their lifts unless they are done on the platform. I am a huge fan of Nick Winters. He had great potential, that said, a lot of his training lifts were sloppy. I had emailed him personally about it. For the numbers everyone said he could do, he should have hit over 700 in a meet, never happened. That said, I hope he does it someday. He is undoubtedly an extremely strong human.

Another great story, everyone talks about how Ryan Kennelly could have taken the raw record. I had dinner with him in Vegas last year and he said if he trained for it, he thought he'd be good for 650. That was directly from the man himself. I'm sure if he trained for it for a couple of years he'd be capable of close to 700 or maybe more. I personally think Ryan's the best bencher of all time, period.

People throw huge numbers around all the time like they are nothing. Yet only two men in the history of the sport have hit a 700 raw bench. Every couple of years we hear about the next guy who's going to do it. Gee, I wonder why I'm skeptical.

Erik 23
10-23-2009, 09:53 PM
I REMEMBER him. He just kept going and going and going with the 275 lbs. When he hit 50 reps his cadence had not slowed at all. I remember seeing the expression on Jeremy Hoornstra's face. He just kind of looked over at Jay Fry like "WTF was that?"

Hahahah yeah that was him the expression on Hoornstra's face was priceless lol.

Chris Rodgers
10-23-2009, 10:01 PM
I REMEMBER him. He just kept going and going and going with the 275 lbs. When he hit 50 reps his cadence had not slowed at all. I remember seeing the expression on Jeremy Hoornstra's face. He just kind of looked over at Jay Fry like "WTF was that?"

Yea, this...looks like he's warming up with the empty bar.


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Chris Rodgers
10-23-2009, 10:04 PM
This might be the Winters' 700x2 people were thinking about?


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NickW
10-23-2009, 10:05 PM
Never claimed a 715x2, claimed to hit 715 for 1 good one and start a 2nd one but fail when triceps started to take over (tricep always were me damn weakness) just didn't get conveyed that way in the interview. I have never lied about my lifts in training, but my lifts did get sloppier as I got away from training at WSBB where they didn't let me get away with that ****. I am going to start getting back to westside more often, or at least training with Wolfe at his new gym when I can't make it all the way out to westside. Gotta get my head and my training straight once I can get serious about it again. Vin is right, the only thing that counts is whats done on the platform.

Gotta love getting hated on (when its actually funny)! Its what I miss the most about powerlifting!

vdizenzo
10-23-2009, 10:37 PM
Nick, my 715x2 comment was not an insult directed at you. I hope you don't think I was hating on you. It was a joke about what others claim a lifter can do. They stir up a lot of crap for the actual lifter. 650 raw is a crazy strong meet number. I have nothing but respect for you. That lift will stand the test of time. Best of luck in your current pursuits.

Judas
10-24-2009, 04:56 AM
Another great story, everyone talks about how Ryan Kennelly could have taken the raw record. I had dinner with him in Vegas last year and he said if he trained for it, he thought he'd be good for 650. That was directly from the man himself. I'm sure if he trained for it for a couple of years he'd be capable of close to 700 or maybe more. I personally think Ryan's the best bencher of all time, period.

"Just" 650...??? Is that because he's lost so much weight? I saw him at the last Iron Gladiators meet and was within spotting distance when he blasted a 585 raw double like it was nuthin', and he was "only" attempting 940 in the comp that day. There are videos ov him cranking 600x2 and 610 once, both look pretty damn strong. Haven't heard much from him in a while, just that he's lost a lot ov weight.

Your post implies that he gets nearly 500lbs from a shirt... that would have to be the most insane carryover ever. And i have to agree... Ryan Kennelly is by far the most mind-blowing display ov human power i've ever seen with my own eyes.

chris mason
10-24-2009, 07:54 AM
Yea, this...looks like he's warming up with the empty bar.


JkTwTtqtluY


I know, that IS ridiculous...

vdizenzo
10-24-2009, 03:32 PM
"Just" 650...??? Is that because he's lost so much weight? I saw him at the last Iron Gladiators meet and was within spotting distance when he blasted a 585 raw double like it was nuthin', and he was "only" attempting 940 in the comp that day. There are videos ov him cranking 600x2 and 610 once, both look pretty damn strong. Haven't heard much from him in a while, just that he's lost a lot ov weight.

Your post implies that he gets nearly 500lbs from a shirt... that would have to be the most insane carryover ever. And i have to agree... Ryan Kennelly is by far the most mind-blowing display ov human power i've ever seen with my own eyes.

This is what the man himself said. Meanwhile, Ryan nutswingers will say he could take the raw record anytime he wants. You said you saw him do 610 once. Well, a 610 exhibition raw is much different than a 650 competition.

Hazerboy
10-24-2009, 06:29 PM
Yet only two men in the history of the sport have hit a 700 raw bench. Every couple of years we hear about the next guy who's going to do it. Gee, I wonder why I'm skeptical.

Is this really true? James Henderson and Mendelson are the only ones with 700+ benches on powerlifting watch, though it only has the best single lift per weight class...

Wikipedia has a progression of best bench presses, but its pretty vague on who used a shirt and who didn't.

Ted Arici, for instance, is supposed to have a 700 and 735 meet bench but I'm assuming he used a shirt. The sources are also his WWE biography, which was probably vague or inaccurate (not powerlifting specific).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Arcidi#cite_note-encyclopedia-0

BigCorey75
10-24-2009, 06:42 PM
You mean Kennelly?

i was talking about they guy in the vid

Polish Hammer
10-24-2009, 07:19 PM
Ted Arcidi 705(1985)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8YgoixdEzU

Travis Bell
10-24-2009, 07:51 PM
I'm almost positive I remember a interview where Ted said he used a double denim to get over the 700 mark

chris mason
10-24-2009, 08:11 PM
I'm almost positive I remember a interview where Ted said he used a double denim to get over the 700 mark

No, he did 700 lbs in one of the early shirts that didn't give too much help.

vdizenzo
10-24-2009, 11:43 PM
Ted was the first 700 lb bencher and it was in a shirt. I got 40lbs out of an Inzer Extra High Performance Heavy Duty Blast shirt, single ply back in the day. It might not be a ton, but it's more than raw.

Judas
10-25-2009, 04:40 AM
This is what the man himself said. Meanwhile, Ryan nutswingers will say he could take the raw record anytime he wants. You said you saw him do 610 once. Well, a 610 exhibition raw is much different than a 650 competition.

Not splitting hairs here but all i saw was a '610 raw warm-up' video. Likely his last before donning the shirt. Seems easily in line for a guy who could bitch-slap 585x2. But yeah, 700 is a good ways away from 610, especially how he bounces his raw warm-ups.

Travis Bell
10-25-2009, 07:22 AM
No, he did 700 lbs in one of the early shirts that didn't give too much help.

Yeah I looked back and it does appear that he wore a blast shirt

Either way, in my opinion a person is either geared or raw. I assumed Mike was assuming that Ted's lift was raw.

chris mason
10-25-2009, 09:30 AM
Yeah I looked back and it does appear that he wore a blast shirt

Either way, in my opinion a person is either geared or raw. I assumed Mike was assuming that Ted's lift was raw.

Gotcha, I was just clarifying.

chris mason
10-25-2009, 09:34 AM
Not splitting hairs here but all i saw was a '610 raw warm-up' video. Likely his last before donning the shirt. Seems easily in line for a guy who could bitch-slap 585x2. But yeah, 700 is a good ways away from 610, especially how he bounces his raw warm-ups.


I have seen him warming up with 2 boards or something absolutely playing with high 500s raw.

I would not characterize his warm-ups as bouncing. The weight is just so easy for him he is literally throwing it around.

Polish Hammer
10-25-2009, 07:45 PM
Yeah I looked back and it does appear that he wore a blast shirt

Either way, in my opinion a person is either geared or raw. I assumed Mike was assuming that Ted's lift was raw.

Yeah, my fault. I thought it was a Raw press. Its a crappy video, but as fast as he lowered that bar, it didnt look like he had anything on.

robchris
10-25-2009, 08:28 PM
1st- 275x50 is an un-real display of strength & endurance!

2nd- Did anyone watch the vid. of Nick pressing 425lb. off pins in a power rack??? Un-F'n- believable!!!