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dynamo
11-03-2009, 01:23 PM
Last week I was attempting a max bench PR of 335, I warmed up well and already did 315x2 I failed on the 335 attempt but I did something to my forearm and it feels like i over exerted some muscle in my forearm and bruised it on the inside, I can still use my hand fine, but I tried doing some 135lbs deadlifts yesterday and it almost paralyzed my arm in pain. So no push or pull exercises til it heals, so only squats 3 days a week yay!

So is it better to keep heat on this type of injury or ice? When I put pressure on my forearm, and warmth it feels like I can use it to do anything, and there is no swelling. Just for clarification, my arm isn't crippled, only crippled lifting anything over about 45 lbs. and I can poke my forearm with my finger and there is 1 specific point where it hurts really bad, everything else feels normal. I will be seeing my doc on friday for a general physical, I am going to ask him about it too.

Travis Bell
11-03-2009, 01:26 PM
You may have either A) strained your forearm badly by bending your wrist too far back while benching or B) actually stress fractured your forearm from continued bending of your wrist

Ice Ice and more ice. I'm talking sticking your whole arm up to your elbow in an ice bath for as long as you can tolerate it at a time. I had that happen last year and the ice baths were the only thing that fixed it

To prevent the injury in the future, wrap your wrists nice and tight and then don't allow them to bend back

Travis Bell
11-03-2009, 01:27 PM
oh and Ibuprofen too

dynamo
11-03-2009, 01:37 PM
damn! I didn't think it could be that serious. I hope its not a fractured forearm. I will ice it once I get home. How long was your recovery time? Assuming its not a broken bone, should I do any light exercises to help the healing process?

Priest
11-03-2009, 03:33 PM
Get an MRI just to be safe. I got a hairline fracture and it took me a year to fully recover and get back to heavy training. Cuz I didnt get an MRI in the first place. I just got an x ray. x-rays dont always show hairline fractures.

If not then Ice and Ibuprofen.

dynamo
11-03-2009, 06:04 PM
yeah I usually get MRIs anyway, I got an xray back in high school on my ankle and the technician told me they almost ran out of adjustment to increase the strength of the xray due to my bone density. Though I don't know what the difference would be besides knowing or not knowing. I won't be benching or pulling until it causes no discomfort anyway.

NickAus
11-03-2009, 06:56 PM
You may have either A) strained your forearm badly by bending your wrist too far back while benching or B) actually stress fractured your forearm from continued bending of your wrist

Ice Ice and more ice. I'm talking sticking your whole arm up to your elbow in an ice bath for as long as you can tolerate it at a time. I had that happen last year and the ice baths were the only thing that fixed it

To prevent the injury in the future, wrap your wrists nice and tight and then don't allow them to bend back

Travis, have you ever had bad elbow pain?

What do you recommend to fix sore elbows?

Thanks!

vdizenzo
11-03-2009, 07:06 PM
The bruising has me curious. I immediately thought stress fracture. No matter what, get it checked out. Lilfting with a stress fracture could seriously put you at risk for a worse injury. Hopefully it's nothing. Best of luck.

vdizenzo
11-03-2009, 07:07 PM
Travis, have you ever had bad elbow pain?

What do you recommend to fix sore elbows?

Thanks!

I'm not Trav, but ice and high rep extensor work has helped my elbows immensely.

NickAus
11-03-2009, 07:07 PM
Vinnie, what do you do when you have bad elbow pain?

Thanks!

dynamo
11-03-2009, 08:14 PM
The bruising has me curious. I immediately thought stress fracture. No matter what, get it checked out. Lilfting with a stress fracture could seriously put you at risk for a worse injury. Hopefully it's nothing. Best of luck.

sigh....I hope its nothing too, its so weird, I honestly didn't think it could be such a huge issue (aka broken bone) but I will definitely get it checked out. I tried bending my forearm in half at the point of pain to see if it would hurt more from the bone separating and I had no pain, and when I push on my forearm at the site of pain it is actually directly within the muscle, a fair distance from the bone, it feels like the muscle bundle connected to the tendon that is right on my wrist directly under my pinkie. Friday I'll know for sure grr!

Edit: perhaps right where the tendon connects to the muscle fibers.

vdizenzo
11-03-2009, 08:15 PM
Vinnie, what do you do when you have bad elbow pain?

Thanks!

It's like a pinpoint pain right near the tip of the elbow. What I mean by bad is that it was excruciating when I benched.

Travis Bell
11-03-2009, 08:28 PM
sigh....I hope its nothing too, its so weird, I honestly didn't think it could be such a huge issue (aka broken bone) but I will definitely get it checked out. I tried bending my forearm in half at the point of pain to see if it would hurt more from the bone separating and I had no pain, and when I push on my forearm at the site of pain it is actually directly within the muscle, a fair distance from the bone, it feels like the muscle bundle connected to the tendon that is right on my wrist directly under my pinkie. Friday I'll know for sure grr!

Edit: perhaps right where the tendon connects to the muscle fibers.

Stress fractures aren't complete breaks in the bone.

It's tons of micro cracks in the bone

The next step though is a complete break during a bench session. I've seen it happen in person and its stomach churning sick

NickAus
11-04-2009, 01:55 AM
I'm not Trav, but ice and high rep extensor work has helped my elbows immensely.

Thanks Vinnie!

ScottYard
11-04-2009, 08:24 AM
Hopefully its something simple..........

For tennis elbow I have used hex holds in the past and they take my elbow pains 100% away. Im not sure what it does exactly but I dont need to know how a fuel injector works either to drive to work. I use 30's for 3 sets of 30 every now and then and it works like a charm.

Hope it heels up for you ASAP

JK1
11-04-2009, 12:19 PM
Stress fractures aren't complete breaks in the bone.

It's tons of micro cracks in the bone

The next step though is a complete break during a bench session. I've seen it happen in person and its stomach churning sick

Yup. The bone basically "pops" like shattered glass. The worst of those I've ever seen wasn't human, but was a horse. That was nasty. Lots and lots of blood on the floor.

dynamo
11-04-2009, 02:05 PM
Yup. The bone basically "pops" like shattered glass. The worst of those I've ever seen wasn't human, but was a horse. That was nasty. Lots and lots of blood on the floor.

Thats exactly what I pictured when Travis mentioned it. I will definitely be mentioning my injury this friday while the doc is fondling the gems.

I can't even imagine what it would be like to essentially have my forearm explode while I try to hold 300+ lbs over my face.

dynamo
11-06-2009, 12:20 PM
Doc said a pulled muscle or tear and to just take it easy. He did mention weighing 274.8 lbs was a little much regardless of how much weight I can move and I need to start running again. So we split the difference of my old weight and I need to drop down to about 250 and get my bp down from 130/90 to more like 120/60 like it used to be. So more motivation to cut. I wouldn't mind competing in the 242 class one day. Back to light benching for me.

vdizenzo
11-06-2009, 12:22 PM
Get a different dr

Travis Bell
11-06-2009, 12:40 PM
Get a different dr

Totally agree.

Your doc sounds like the typical doctor. See a sports specialist if possible.

The only way for him to tell if it's a stress fracture is by a bone scan.

44pirate
11-06-2009, 12:41 PM
What is Hex hold?
Thanks
George

Travis Bell
11-06-2009, 12:46 PM
I just re-read this back again, you asked a doctor who was giving you a physical? That doesn't even really count as going to the doctor.

Again, go see the sports specialist and have them look at your forearm

dynamo
11-06-2009, 12:49 PM
Get a different dr

Yeah that was my first thought too but I like him lol. I will look around for sports medicine docs this weekend the other thing that bugged me is he was inferring I gained 75 lbs from eating fast food which kind of pissed me off. He even said regardless of my body composition being almost 300 lbs isn't healthy for anyone and I completely disagree.

Travis Bell
11-06-2009, 01:02 PM
I would have stopped liking him about the time he said fast food is bad

dynamo
11-06-2009, 01:39 PM
I just re-read this back again, you asked a doctor who was giving you a physical? That doesn't even really count as going to the doctor.

Again, go see the sports specialist and have them look at your forearm

just re-read this again. yes sir!
A sports doc probably has a better grasp on the effect of weight gain as it pertains to an athlete anyway. My doctor kind of sounded like a recording talking about diabetes and joint problems and **** like that.

JK1
11-06-2009, 02:38 PM
Doc said a pulled muscle or tear and to just take it easy. He did mention weighing 274.8 lbs was a little much regardless of how much weight I can move and I need to start running again. So we split the difference of my old weight and I need to drop down to about 250 and get my bp down from 130/90 to more like 120/60 like it used to be. So more motivation to cut. I wouldn't mind competing in the 242 class one day. Back to light benching for me.

I would have ripped that doctor a new ******* at the point he brought up weighing a light 274 was "a bit much no matter how much weight you move" without first suggesting DEXA or other Bodyfat testing..... you seriously need to see a different doctor. One who understands powerlifting and is willing to work with you.

You are in that "prehypertensive" status too, with a high diastolic number, you do need to see someone who will work with you.

JK1
11-06-2009, 02:39 PM
Yeah that was my first thought too but I like him lol. I will look around for sports medicine docs this weekend the other thing that bugged me is he was inferring I gained 75 lbs from eating fast food which kind of pissed me off. He even said regardless of my body composition being almost 300 lbs isn't healthy for anyone and I completely disagree.

I would have ripped him a third ******* at that point. You seriously need to see someone else.

dynamo
11-06-2009, 03:40 PM
I would have ripped that doctor a new ******* at the point he brought up weighing a light 274 was "a bit much no matter how much weight you move" without first suggesting DEXA or other Bodyfat testing..... you seriously need to see a different doctor. One who understands powerlifting and is willing to work with you.

You are in that "prehypertensive" status too, with a high diastolic number, you do need to see someone who will work with you.

I completely agree, I am going to see what my insurance will cover and go from there. I do want to get my blood pressure down thats for sure, cardio has always worked well for me with that so I will start that back up today when I get home. In all fairness I haven't actually done any cardio in about 2 years. I used to run 5 miles a day and 10-15 on the weekends. This is an experience, hopefully it will make me a more well rounded athlete. I've always been a lifter or a runner, I never tried to balance both and ideally I would be good at both and be healthy too.

JSully
11-06-2009, 04:20 PM
I completely agree, I am going to see what my insurance will cover and go from there. I do want to get my blood pressure down thats for sure, cardio has always worked well for me with that so I will start that back up today when I get home. In all fairness I haven't actually done any cardio in about 2 years. I used to run 5 miles a day and 10-15 on the weekends. This is an experience, hopefully it will make me a more well rounded athlete. I've always been a lifter or a runner, I never tried to balance both and ideally I would be good at both and be healthy too.

IMO your blood pressure is fine..

Ditch the doc.. I'm 280 and my doc has no issues with it at all and my BP is about that of yours.

And there's CERTAINLY no excluse for running 5 miles a day.. save the knees for squats..

dynamo
11-14-2009, 06:39 PM
just a quick update, my bone is fine I just tore some muscle in my forearm, its about healed up I'll be taking it easy for the first week or so, and i'll be doing direct forearm work for a while to make sure things stay strong. I've been doing nothing but squats for the past 3-4 weeks, I definitely think it helped me not lose any muscle mass, we'll see how my strength is come monday.

Edit: I will also talk with my doctor to let him know how its going to be. I know it will be a stretch, he's been the best doc I've had so far, in terms of not being a total know it all douche. I'll tell him why I gained the weight, why we can agree a high % of body fat is not the best decision in terms of overall health, that he can either help me or I can find a new doctor. When he tells me I shouldn't squat i'll punch him in the face then tell him why I should. If he fails at doctordom then so be it, I'll find a doctor who is willing to not be a moron.

theBarzeen
11-15-2009, 07:48 AM
If it's a strain you can help yourself out by starting on rehab stuff right away. When I was working towards my first 500 lb bench I was getting some wicked forearm pain. After pressing and racking the weight it took a few seconds before I could let go of the bar because it was locked up so bad. It took 3 or 4 weeks of lighter benching and a whole lot of high-rep forearm work ( wrist curls, wrist roller etc...) but I bench pain free now.......

IronDiggy
11-19-2009, 09:54 AM
If it's a strain you can help yourself out by starting on rehab stuff right away. When I was working towards my first 500 lb bench I was getting some wicked forearm pain. After pressing and racking the weight it took a few seconds before I could let go of the bar because it was locked up so bad. It took 3 or 4 weeks of lighter benching and a whole lot of high-rep forearm work ( wrist curls, wrist roller etc...) but I bench pain free now.......

I might give this ago. I've been having issues with my forearm and lately it's been sore and hurting w/o even doing bench work. I can feel the pain spot is really tight and doesn't really hurt but it's sore and when I bench I have a hard time keeping my wrist from not bending back even with really light weight on the bar.