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KarstenDD
02-11-2010, 06:30 PM
Anybody have any tips? This set was REALLY hard.

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Sean S
02-11-2010, 06:52 PM
I don't see any huge problems, but saw one minor problem. When you start out of the hole the bar moves up and forward maybe and inch or two. It's not much, but it's enough to miss a max attempt. When this happens to me it's because I lose a little of my upper back arch. Not a major rounding over, but a very subtle loss of arch. I can't say for sure since I can't see your upper back very well, but the upper back is the problem when my bar path does this.
Look at your bar path again. It goes pretty much straight down, but drifts forward as you come up a bit.

Brian Hopper
02-11-2010, 08:01 PM
It looked like you sat back pretty good, I did notice out of the hole your elbows went up. Do you squat off a box at all against bands for speed?

joey54
02-11-2010, 08:21 PM
Looks like you get a little too vertical on your unrack maybe?

Might be overstimating how much weight you can do off reverse bands too. If I remember you looked taller than me. The Big Iron guys average 5 '9", so they get more out of the bands with help according to the PL USA article, which I think you are basing this routine off of. Darren at our gym wanted to go right from 675 to 775 on his first set of reverse band squats last week. I suggested he start at 725 lbs and based off that, go to 760 lbs. His 760 lb set was a grinder, but a good one. He is taller like us too, so probably doesn't get as much from the reverse bands either.

Chris Rodgers
02-11-2010, 08:33 PM
I suggest that you come all the way back up with it and put it in the hooks! It is much harder when you do it the way that you did.

Lones Green
02-11-2010, 09:24 PM
It looks like you have a bit of a forward lean going on too

Travis Bell
02-11-2010, 09:35 PM
Yeah I kinda noticed a little lean as well. Looked like the weight just got a little in front of you.

Personally, this is why I don't ever feel super comfortable with reverse band squats, they screw up the groove too much unless your technique is spotless.

How much ab work do you do?

The other thing I noticed, when you dump a weight like that, dump it faster. Get out from under it. Dumping it that slow can really put your back in a scary position. Trust the straps and just let that sucker go

hollo93
02-11-2010, 09:45 PM
I would suggest: 1) more band tension and/or 2) more spotters. You could try less weight but what fun would that be? Still looks like J-bone is trying to take you out in the vid...priceless.

SELK
02-11-2010, 10:58 PM
I think you have to much forward lean and its turning the bottom of the squat into a good morning instead of letting the gear get you 1/2 way up. I would ride the bar high as possible and think "knees out" and arching as your descending so you can stay more upright, i find the more upright I am in the hole the easier the lift as you can let the gear shoot you most of the way up then just stand up with it.

MarcusWild
02-12-2010, 12:11 AM
I agree with too much lean. Also, you need to keep your hips under you when you start out of the hole. Your hips shoot straight up and the bar barely moves. Your hips need to come forward and stay under the bar. That's mostly controlled by your glutes.

accuFLEX
02-12-2010, 05:32 AM
Random, but is that yellow material nylon webbing?

Lones Green
02-12-2010, 06:56 AM
Karsten, I had the exact same problem as you are having, these 2 videos are within a year of each other

525:
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600:
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If you keep your chest up and keep arched, you're good for so much more

drmobley
02-12-2010, 07:12 AM
I saw what the others saw...just a little forward drift out of the hole...otherwise, looked pretty good, except for not getting it back up.

douglasoh5
02-12-2010, 08:29 AM
Lones your form is actually good in both videos...looks like you just went to deep on the 525

Lones Green
02-12-2010, 09:39 AM
Lones your form is actually good in both videos...looks like you just went to deep on the 525

If you pause the video on the 1st one when I'm in the hole, the bar is way in front of my hips

AJ Roberts
02-12-2010, 10:09 AM
Bar is way out in front of you. Try carrying the bar lower on your back or try to keep your upper body from leaning so much.

vdizenzo
02-12-2010, 12:30 PM
We've got a piper down! That was epic awesomeness. I thought you had the strength for it, it was just too heavy. Sweet!

RhodeHouse
02-12-2010, 04:58 PM
DD, I thought it looked good all the way to the straps. The dismount wasn't solid, but you ended up sticking it pretty good.

KarlMarx
02-12-2010, 05:41 PM
When my lean starts to get too forward, front squats get me back in the groove for a more vertical posture. If I throw a couple of max effort FS days in the rotation it corrects tendencies to lean if I think I am developing them. Take it for what its worth---its worked for me to get up to 500 raw.

barbell01
02-12-2010, 06:25 PM
that was a suited/straps down, partial good morning negative. looked good!

sayagain
02-12-2010, 06:39 PM
Looks like you hit good depth on your second try.

buscondoguerra
02-12-2010, 08:30 PM
Looks like you may be fighting your suit to get depth. Suit starts locking up and you bend over to keep going down. The bar was forward of your center of gravity. You have to sit back more into the suit. Going down faster but under control will help you get better depth. Don't sacrifice your form for depth. It may take more weight to get you down with proper form. If you can't come back up with that weight you've got to tight of a suit for your strenght level at this time. Try using more speed coming down and when the suit locks up come back up even if your not at depth. Add weight over several workouts building confidence in your suit and perfecting your form in the suit untill you can achieve depth and you should get maxium reboud out of your suit that way.

drew
02-12-2010, 08:47 PM
Next time tuck and roll.

vdizenzo
02-12-2010, 08:52 PM
Why was your spotter pushing you down.

Cmanuel
02-13-2010, 01:05 AM
:bow:Hell Yeah SLAYER

Rugby Dad
02-13-2010, 05:23 PM
thank God for straps huh!!
looks like you were leaning forward at the start and coming out of the hole.

KarstenDD
02-14-2010, 08:02 PM
So to everyone who answered seriously, I wasn't actually looking for advice but I'm not going to just disregard it. So thanks and I'll look into it. And no, nothing is hurt. But my pride.

Hazerboy
02-14-2010, 09:33 PM
So to everyone who answered seriously, I wasn't actually looking for advice but I'm not going to just disregard it. So thanks and I'll look into it.

...You said you wanted tips?

deeder
02-14-2010, 10:03 PM
I think you were way too bent over the whole time. Also, when the suit really kicked in you didn't really go down much further, you basically just bent over some more. Stay more upright and I'm sure you'll nail that weight.

vdizenzo
02-15-2010, 12:51 PM
...You said you wanted tips?

No, he wants the tip, just for a second, just to see how it feels.

thewicked
02-15-2010, 03:08 PM
No, he wants the tip, just for a second, just to see how it feels.

LOL

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Jonah
02-15-2010, 07:51 PM
No, he wants the tip, just for a second, just to see how it feels.

HOT!

Hazerboy
02-16-2010, 01:13 AM
No, he wants the tip, just for a second, just to see how it feels.

Pff a tip always leads to more.





Yeah I really have nothing else to add to this thread, sorry.

AdamBAG
02-16-2010, 08:52 AM
that was a suited/straps down, partial good morning negative. looked good!

This is the conjugate method.