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martin
02-19-2010, 10:09 AM
Me again - still having problems with my sumo.

As advised I've been running them as my speed work and they seem to be coming on well. So I thought I'd try again and this time in my sumo suit.

It seems when the weight gets heavy I pull it towards my right leg and it stops it moving.

Here's a short vid -

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Sadly didn't get any videos of the ones a made 10lbs lighter. The thing that gets me is this doens't feel heavy TBH.

So, any help much appreciated guys

Martin

AdamBAG
02-19-2010, 11:15 AM
I don't know man. It looks like you just didn't push your hips through and fall back so you get forward some once the bar gets to around knee height. Your setup really looks good to me in all honesty.

At my gym we've found that speed work is not really the best way to learn sumo pulling. This is because it's easy to pull light weights sumo. You don't find those form problems until you get to a heavier weight.

Also, aren't you pulling 710 there? Your sig says your best meet pull is 716. So you are at like 99.9999%. Missing a % like that in the gym really isn't all that surprising. You can't beat meet PRs in the gym very often once you are at your strength level.

martin
02-19-2010, 11:23 AM
Thanks.

Maybe your right about the speed work but it really has helped my set up alot over the last 10 weeks or so.

Thats 710 lbs yeah, my best conventional is 728 - I keep failing 710 sumo in briefs, in suits and in both!

I pulled 690 really easy and it felt far lighter sumo than it does conevntional - so I was hoping that 700+ would be easy but not so.

M

AdamBAG
02-19-2010, 11:48 AM
You may just be a better conventional puller.

728 is a f'ing legit pull though man, if I was you I'd just work on sumo in training and keep pulling conventional in meets!

Lones Green
02-19-2010, 03:05 PM
Yeah, looks like you're able to get your hips way down in that suit, probably aren't getting too much out of it

To be honest, it looks like you just stopped

slashkills
02-19-2010, 03:40 PM
do you ever use bands in your training? Maybe they could help you grind that out since you got stuck like half way up.

chinaz
02-21-2010, 11:02 AM
I have seen so many girls do the same exact thing at powerlifting meets.
Looks like you breathed OUT before pulling instead of breathing IN. You need a big chest of air before pulling. And you let it out when you lock out. Use more HIPS. and, DONT LET GO. Just pull. When the bar is as far up as you pulled it, arch your back and it will straighten you out. The hardest part of deadlift is getting the weight off the ground, and you did alot more then just getting it off the ground.

1.AIR
2.HIPS
3.DONT LET GO
4.ARCH

Hope this helps!
Goodluck!

martin
02-21-2010, 12:20 PM
I'm having trouble with the breathing as it's still new to me suited. Conventional I breath before I bend for the bar and hold it, but then it's not difficult for me to get into the start position doing conventional deads.

My right leg is bleeding alot since this. I took all the skin off just below the knee. This kept happening as the weights went up more - and why I stopped in the filmed lift.

I think if I cleared my knee it'd have gone straight up. I'm going to play around with my foot position and keep with it.

Will hopefully have a nice big pull to show everyone sometime in the near future! Thanks for all the comments

M

ScottYard
02-21-2010, 12:35 PM
Like ADAMBAG said. Lower the weights. Try working with sets in the 80% range for singles. That way you can work technique with some sort of load that heavier then speed work but lighter then a max effort.

Maybe try pulling off blocks for a cycle and each week lower the blocks a hair until your on the ground. Might let you work your form and get better week by week.

chinaz
02-21-2010, 12:35 PM
why dont you wear socks?