Steriods, Are They Really Dangerous?

[Maki Riddington]

I'm sure this questions has come up before, but I find that people still are stuck on the notion that somehow steroids ( the ones that are anabolic in nature) are detrimental to ones self in the long run.

I would be very interested to hear of the evidence that supports this stance since a lot of people have taken the liberty of creating even more of a misconception when it comes to this topic.

Are there any studies that point out that ANY use of anabolic steriods are going to create complications down the road? Lets put aside our obeservations since those that have observed usually will have done so on a heavy AS user.

The bottom line is, are AS used in moderate amounts going to create problems in the horizon?

[the doc]

maki what would you say are moderate amounts?

I would say moderate would be supplementing to just above ones maximum normal T- production (for test esters)

but i have not used

[Maki Riddington]

Good question. What constitutes moderate amounts? If we were to use the definition based upon a pro bb then "moderate" would be defined by a recreational user most often as 'abusive' amount.

Lets just say that a moderate amount would be dependant on the type of AS taken. I mean taking A-bombs for 12 weeks and pryamiding up to 100 mg a day would probally be harmful as opposed to taking 500 mg of test straight for 12 weeks.

It's just that the overall consencus is that AS are to be avoided at all costs, ignoring the fact that they are illegal. I mean, some of the new phormones that are coming out border line on being just as, if not, more expensive then a carefully constructed cycle. Plus now it's been shown that these phormones shut you down just like a cycle of AS would. It's just that one is legal (for now) and the other isn't.

[Severed Ties]

Well the PDR recommend Anadrol be administered at 50-150mg's everyday for 3 to six months. This is the recognized safe dose for anadrol therapy. Thus far no severe health complications have been noted.

600mg's of Testosterone a week is being used in most current testing after a Study a year or so ago found 600mg's of Test/week for 10 weeks to have no noted health complications.

The only case I can think of off the top my head where their would be serious concern (provided the individual is healthy at the time) is someone with a family history of prostate cancer.


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[Daniel Clough]

A lot of people who seem to have a negative view on steroids, who have used them before seem to say that their test levels are all messed up and they cannot seem to gain naturally like they did before.

This could be due to the pshychological effect of perhaps even overestimated what is possible naturally after being used to being "on"

Do your test levels settle back to exactly the same post cycle?

[chris mason]

Ok, two things. First, to know the answer to that question in the most absolute sense, a long term study would need to be done. This test would have to follow a representative sample from the time they took the drugs until they died. Probably won't happen anytime soon.


I can think of one way that they will definitely adversely effect long term health. Blood pressure. Many users (most I would say) experience increased blood pressure during use. Increased blood pressure (chronic, or prolonged) has a direct negative link on cardiovascular health.

[Steak Helmet]

THere are two factors USE and ABUSE. Everyone is different and everyone will react a little different to AS. Moderation is key.

Only time can tell how one will react to the USE of AS. But to abuse AS...well they will find out in a short amount of time how fast AS can harm their system. YEs they may look good on the outside, but on the inside, they are causing noticable damage.

HTis topic can be discussed for a long period of time...

[captain piddles]

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[Shaggy]

Originally posted by chris mason

I can think of one way that they will definitely adversely effect long term health. Blood pressure. Many users (most I would say) experience increased blood pressure during use. Increased blood pressure (chronic, or prolonged) has a direct negative link on cardiovascular health.

Don't forget the very damaging affect long term steroid use has on blood lipids too!!! :(