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ScottYard
03-10-2010, 02:22 PM
Just wondering what you guys have done before.

When I did the arnold I cut 25 lbs in a day to make 275. It was a terrible cut and I was definately off on meet day

That was a 8% cut. Whats the highest % of body weight any body here has done?

Just curious as Im thinking about my cut coming up for my may meet and Im not quote sure what the safe parameters are.

AdamBAG
03-10-2010, 02:33 PM
Scott, I cut from 252-255 down to 242. I think that is about 5-6%. I did it completely with water loading and just a bit of time in a hot shower the morning of weigh ins.

It was not terrible, but I did have a touch time concentrating and was not mentally sharp. I rehydrated easily and felt fine within an hour of weight ins.

Just water loading and then cutting off the water. No diuretics, IVs etc.

That is my experience.

ThomasG
03-10-2010, 02:34 PM
25lbs in a day? Is that a typo?

Lones Green
03-10-2010, 02:41 PM
25lbs in a day? Is that a typo?

No, haha

I went from 295 to 277 once, I won't do it again unless I'm trying to get elite or something like that. It screws me up bad

EandO
03-10-2010, 03:25 PM
I just did 294 to 269. I started 11 days out with water loading, increasing 5 days out and then stopping 24hrs before weigh ins...also cleanned up the diet greatly.

MarcusWild
03-10-2010, 03:59 PM
Scott, I cut from 252-255 down to 242. I think that is about 5-6%. I did it completely with water loading and just a bit of time in a hot shower the morning of weigh ins.

It was not terrible, but I did have a touch time concentrating and was not mentally sharp. I rehydrated easily and felt fine within an hour of weight ins.

Just water loading and then cutting off the water. No diuretics, IVs etc.

That is my experience.

That's exactly what I did for my last meet. I made it pretty easily. Starbursts are good to have. It's a little sugar to keep you from crashing and you can spit the saliva.

I've done 238 to 220 (7.5%). That one was harder. I needed a few sauna sessions, and the last pound was a puddle of spit in the parking lot with some help from ice breaker sour candies. I think flying during my cut messed me up. Cutting is definitely easier if there's no major travel involved.

Ryano
03-10-2010, 04:02 PM
I went from 294 to 297 the morning of my last meet. I think it was the B&Gs at breakfast that did it. LOL

Mick Manley
03-10-2010, 04:07 PM
Well if u count actual dieting, i went from about 197 to 165. I dieted for 10 weeks or sumthin to about 183, then i cut from 183 to 165. It was the most horrific experience of my life, so 32 lbs total.

Tom Mutaffis
03-10-2010, 04:14 PM
Strongman Nationals in 2007 I had to make weight at 199.9, and decided to do water manipulation since I was usually 210-212 lbs. Since I was training really hard and eating like a savage prior to the contest I ended up weighing 215 lbs a week out. Started the water loading and my bodyweight peaked at 219 lbs on Wednesday. Cut water on Thursday and woke up at 204.6 lbs, the last 4.7 lbs was brutal... made weight at 199.9 and ended up competing at around 208-210 lbs the next day.

I actually felt quite good with all things considered (water manipulation, overnight flight, etc.). That was about a 7% drop and next time I would probably keep it to 5% maximum. For someone in the low 200's it is very easy to cut 10 lbs of water, even if they are fairly lean. I would think that someone who is around 275 lbs could probably drop an easy 12-15 lbs of water and then it gets tough from there. Training heavier has it's advantages but cutting too much weight will mess you up on game day.

formerbencher
03-10-2010, 04:19 PM
i used water manipulation and dropped from 337 to 308. thats 11.6% drop. this also included the craziest story the night before weigh ins. went 2 for 3 with a 49lbs PR for my 804lbs bench

Big_Byrd52
03-10-2010, 04:31 PM
I cut from 231 to 197 for the 07 pro-am; lifted at 230 the next day. That was 14.7% of my weight

on spring break just surfin the forums to see whats new. Hey to everyone i havent chatted a tin a while

brauny96
03-10-2010, 07:30 PM
Ive heard of people (matt Kcoc comes to mind) who have been at 255, and cut down to 220

but he had Iv's and Diuretics.

My current meet cut: 2 pounds LOL

vdizenzo
03-10-2010, 08:30 PM
Cut from 293 to 275 with just water manipulation and less than a 24 hour weigh in. I got two IV's, it makes a huge difference. I hit the all time bench world record at the time. I did 15 lbs. this summer without IV and I was not as strong.

barbell01
03-11-2010, 08:55 AM
cut from 199-181. weighed 202 8 hours after weigh ins with no iv

mchicia1
03-11-2010, 09:10 AM
How do you guys cut that much weight that fast? Is it just all water weight?

Barbaccio
03-11-2010, 09:12 AM
I am pretty sure Brad Vargason has cut in the mid 30lb mark to make 181's once? I don't remember exact numbers but he cut huge one year. All I remember is it was a freaking ton of weight and no one could believe it.

Pete22
03-11-2010, 09:26 AM
Ive heard of people (matt Kcoc comes to mind) who have been at 255, and cut down to 220

but he had Iv's and Diuretics.

He wrote an article on his whole cutting process, and I believe he just used steam/heat and then replenished with 50/50 Gatorade/water and food, no diuretics or IVs.

ScottYard
03-11-2010, 10:02 AM
Lots of good info.

Thanks guys!

Travis Bell
03-11-2010, 10:48 AM
Biggest I've gone was from 235 to 220. It was mostly with just water weight.

It makes sense, our bodies are almost 70% water so when you have to lose weight in a hurry, water is the fastest.

Everyone responds differently. I never put the water back on right. My shirt doesn't fit right and I just feel lethargic and unfocused.

kutt3r
03-11-2010, 10:59 AM
Curious about cutting water weight and was wondering if anyone had links/articles to share...

This is the one that I have read, that actually seems good.. there are a lot of terrible articles on cutting water as well.

http://www.marylandpowerlifting.com/page.asp?contentID=76

I had Kroc's bookmarked somewhere...

Hazerboy
03-11-2010, 03:14 PM
Why the hell are 24 hour weigh ins legal in powerlifting? People have died from this in HS/collegiate wrestling.

martin
03-11-2010, 04:26 PM
They're legal to stop people cutting stupid weight then trying to lift two hours later!


I have done a few cuts from around 244-246 to 220. It's pretty nasty but I'm normally good by lifting time. Every time I do it I tell mysefl it's the last time and I'll go up to the 242's lol, next one is in two weeks!

Mick Manley
03-11-2010, 04:37 PM
Why the hell are 24 hour weigh ins legal in powerlifting? People have died from this in HS/collegiate wrestling.

ive never met a wrestler who knows how to cut right

bigbadwolfe
03-12-2010, 07:55 PM
When I cut from 297 to 275 for my last UPA the Plant Manager for the company I work at gave me lots of bodyweight cutting advice. He is a former collegiate wrestler and knows all the tricks. He seen me spitting in a cup and thought I was chewing he approached me to ask why I was chewing. I then explained what I was doing and he laughed and said brings back lots of memories from wrestling. We had a nice conversation that day about how to manipulate water :)

Rob Luyando
03-15-2010, 02:22 PM
My last cut was from 297 to 274.5. Monday I drank three gallons of water and eat four meals. Each meal consists of 8 o chicken breast boiled. And a heaping pile of steamed broccolli. I salt the he'll out of the meal so it taste like your eating salt. Tuesday repeat of Monday. Wednesday two gallons water after second meal I cut out salt. Thursday one half gallon of water by noon still eating meals. Check weight at midnight turn hotel bathroom into sauna. Wear 50 gallon trash bag and. Stand ingot shower 20 mins in 5 mins out. Try not to make weight until ten minutes prior to weigh INS. Bumex works great and is easier than lasix. After weigh in slam two bottles of pedia lite then eat a clean breakfast. Continue drinking pedia lite or gatoraide. Eat every two hrs. After second meal three sodium/dextrose iv bags and continue eating. I was 300 at lifting time.

mastermonster
03-15-2010, 03:56 PM
In 2001, I made my powerlifting comeback after one of my last bodybuilding meets. I did WABDL Nationals at 220s and Qualified for Worlds...in November. My bodyweight rose to 238 by then. I dropped 18 lbs. in the last 16 hrs. and won the 220s. That's more than I want to drop quickly again. I now compete in 275 and 308s. I like to be within 5-7 lbs. from weight by the day before weighins now. That's an easy, comfortable drop for me now without any strength lose.

sambone
03-15-2010, 05:59 PM
The most I've cut was from 215 to make 198's and weighed in at 196.5 I always use the water loading method. It has yet to let me down.

Priest
03-16-2010, 02:37 PM
31 pounds. Dropped to get down to 181.
Sucked.

I usually drop about 10-12 to get to 198.

cameronp81
03-16-2010, 09:53 PM
can anyone explain water loading please?

Rob Luyando
03-17-2010, 08:16 PM
Already did in my post

cameronp81
03-17-2010, 09:53 PM
so eat regular, lots of water, lots of salt at first. then cut back on water and salt and cut the water weight a day or two a head of time? about right?

BloodandThunder
03-19-2010, 01:06 PM
so eat regular, lots of water, lots of salt at first. then cut back on water and salt and cut the water weight a day or two a head of time? about right?

things depend on the type of meet.
If you're doing 24/overnight weighin, follow what Rob did. If you're cutting water weight, you want to spend as LITTLE time as possible at that weighin weight.....meaning if you're cutting to 220 let's say, you don't want to dehydrate yourself, sauna, etc. then weigh 219.5 for 12 hours lol. Cut, make weight with, then IMMEDIATELY try to put as much weight on through sodium and other electrolytes, carbs, and most importantly fluids. Ideally, you'd put on the weight that you just spent a few days trying to get rid of (see Matt Kroc).

If you have a 2 hour weighin, you have to deal with two harsh facts: no banned diuretics and the fact you have to start warming up an hour-hour and a half after you weighin. See Matt Gary's article on cutting weight. Here, you have to pay more attention to sodium intake and water cutting. I've never seen anyone who saunas/exercises w fat suit/etc. make weight THEN have a good lifting day on a 2 hour weighin. Also, make sure you have enough fluids and foods you can stomach and process quickly after weighins. Eating chinese food may be good for the bloat, but not so much when you have to start squatting 1 hour after weighing in LOL.

cameronp81
03-20-2010, 04:24 PM
ok thanks alot that should help because I am concerned unfortunately with the 2 hour weigh ins. I usually tell my athletes to try and stay within about four pounds of what they are supposed to weigh which I guess is about the standard for everyone. I do have a boy cutting from 214 to 199 and another cutting from 133 to 119. These are a few of the biggest I've been a part of and they both have to make weight in 4 days ( the 24th). the 214 kid is down to 207 and the 133 is down to 125.5. Do you think they can do it?

BloodandThunder
03-20-2010, 05:49 PM
Are these kids in HS?

Understand a few things (and by all means I'm no expert), the tools that Matt K and Rob L use to lose the water weight are successful because they are professionals with alot of experience in this area. Matt K's article details how painful and exhausting a cut like that can be and how DISCIPLINED you have to be to do so. Also, notice both gain back the weight they lost which is the whole point.

Again, 2 hour weighins are a different monster. You have a kid cutting 10.5% of his weight....HS athletes typically are undisciplined in cutting weight. If this meet is a big deal or had an early weighin, one could understand....but I'd recommend they just lift above their weight. Even if they make weight, which won't be easy, they'll get the biggest part wrong, which is rehydrating yourself and being disciplined enough to eat....(chances are, they're starving themselves which will kill metabolism and hunger on meet day). Just be very careful with them and monitor them closely over the next few days. Otherwise, have them eat and stay hydrated and their performances will be a whole of a hell lot better come meet day at an above weightclass.

cameronp81
03-21-2010, 10:23 AM
you're absolutely right about that, but this was there choice to go down to give themselves a shot at qualifying for the state tournament whereas they wouldn't have a chance in a higher weight class. and with the rules in florida once the desired weight class is sent in 3 weeks before the meet there is no turning back. I did the same thing my senior year, in early february I was 152 and cut to 139 by week 2 in march. i felt like crap all of the time and my strength went down alot. these kids are doing a great job and three of the four that are cutting have actually gained strength these past couple of weeks.

Eric Downey
03-21-2010, 11:32 PM
i cut from 238 to 220 over 2 week span