View Full Version : A calorie is a calorie!

05-05-2002, 06:12 PM
ok we all know a calorie is a calorie, and due to calories in vs. calories out if you have a deficit in calories you are going to lose weight, that doesnt matter if you are eating all your calories from table sugar or if you have a good diet from 50/30/20 protein/carb/fat breakdown made up of teh proper foods to fulfill these requirements. well with this in mind i have a few questions:

1) ok i know calorie in vs calorie out rules, but why? if you require 2500 calories for maintenance, and you are eating 500 below to lose weight, if you are eating 2000 calories in sugar wouldnt this lead to a big insulin spike thus when you are inactive all the glucose would be sent to adipose tissue? so how do u lose weight? is it when your body requires energy it goes to breaking down fat tissue first and thus the fat gain from earlier meals is ultimately broken down and used as energy? otherwise i do not get it.

2) if calories in vs calories basically outlines if you are going to gain, maintain, or lose wieght, then what is your opinion on eating one "cheat meal" we would call it each day if you are maintaining or bulking, i mean you are still getting in 5 meals a day of proper food to lead to an anti catabolic state or anabolic to lead to muscle growth, thus do u think it is ok to have one meal a day that would be considered a cheat meal to us if u r maintaining or bulking IF THE CALORIES REMAIN THE SAME WITH THE DIET YOU SET UP. with this what about cutting down, does one meal really play that much of a significance?

3) if your calories and macronutrient breakdown are in check, does it really absolutely matter that you eat proper food. does insulin play that great of a role? if you are eating lest say 150 grams protein, 300 grams carbs, and 60 grams of fat from lean protein choices, low gi carbs except postworkout, and healthy fats but caloreis remain the same to the same guidelines with protein choices, high gi carbs and good tasting fats but calories remain teh same, what benefits do we get out of teh proper eating. better muscle growth? i understand the prolonged insulin release, less of an insulin spiike all that, but with calories in vs out does it really make taht much of a difference?

05-05-2002, 06:24 PM
everyone who knows anything says eat lots of quality foods. limit anything that isnt found naturally, like excess sugar or salt. limiting insulin will limit fat gain, but in my opinion, will limit muscle gain just as much as fat gain. if you eat more than your maintence, and your overall body size, then go for it. im alot bigger than the average person and my maintence is 4 thousand calories a day! no joke, i go down 2 lbs a week on 3500, and i go up about a lb a week on 4k. and one meal does play some significance, youll get more muscle gains eating a high fat, high protein meal, for example at mcdonalds then eating a tuna fish sandwich and some cottage cheese. but in my opinion, through experience, you know your muscles are growing if you have fat gain. that means your eating above your maintence

05-05-2002, 07:23 PM
thx for the response man, ok i know you are going to gain fat when bulking, but whats your opinion when eating maintenance or cutting, if you are still eating the same amount of calories what do u think of good foods vs average foods??

05-05-2002, 07:26 PM
Does the body really break everything down into usable calories anyway. What about corn passing through the system. I also notice that when cutting my body is much more effecient and going to the bathroom is rare. Does this mean that while eating more i am not necesarilly processing more calories?

05-05-2002, 09:31 PM
You've got 2 bodies going in you. The first body is a highly efficient machine that will take whatever you shove into it and make you run, but you don't run particularly well. The second is a finely tuned machine that performs at an extremely high level but demands finely tuned fuel to keep going at that level. Your food choices determine what level you perform at, your caloric intake determines wether you gain or lose weight.

It's like timing a car. You can advance or retract the timing on your car (well, maybe not new cars) to improve the performance. Some cars will see a dramatic change from re-timing and some will not and some people will notice the difference in timing, some won't. Guess it depends on your car and your driver.