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MarkHennessey
06-18-2010, 01:39 PM
We've had suggestions by competitors to provide a best lifter award for this year's Iowa Games. We can only give out one award - Best Female BP and Best Male BP.

Most lifters are competing Raw, but a few like to use their bench shirts. Is there a formula that we can use to compute the best overall lifter that adjusts the equipped and unequipped lifters in a single category in order to determine the best lifter?

Appreciate your insights and help in advance! Thanks.

seK
06-18-2010, 01:48 PM
It depends on the shirt, they can add between 10% - 30% to your bench.

icedutah
06-18-2010, 02:36 PM
just use the normal formulas for that federation. A geared guy/girl will win it. If those same geared lifters were to train and focus on raw without getting injured then they would still be the winner anyways.

Just like Mendy is the best raw now. He is basically the best in a shirt as well (well #2). But close enough.
Same with Kennelly. I bet he could get the best raw lift ever and he also owns the best shirted ever.

This is powerlifting. We wanna see the most weight possible. Not some raw guys lifting 10-30% less weight and have higher injury chances with shorter careers in the sport.

BloodandThunder
06-18-2010, 02:49 PM
No formula is going to work when comparing equipped and unequipped.
Your main choice is to award raw and equipped BLs. Noone will complain with this.
Choice 2 is to maybe let the lifters vote on BL...some might complain.
Choice 3 is to award it based on Wilks (however Wilks does not account for equipped and unequipped). mostly raw people will complain.
If the meet is run open style and not everyone wins a trophy, then tell the raw lifters it's their choice not to wear gear and award BL to who hits the highest wilks.
If it's a money thing, just print out certificates for the best lifter raw and equipped, then maybe let the lifters decide best performance or something and give him/her the trophy/award.

Bob
06-18-2010, 03:32 PM
How about basing it on the highest % of the current world record for that weight class and equipment used...
for example:
Lifter 1 is a 123 raw BP'er who does 200 and the WR is 300.. then his % is 66%..
and Lifter 2 is a 242 multi-ply who does 700 and the WR is 1000.. then his % is 70...
Lifter 2 wins Best BP'er...

PS.. the World Records I used are not accurate... but I believe you can get the current records from Powerlifting Watch...

BloodandThunder
06-18-2010, 05:22 PM
How about basing it on the highest % of the current world record for that weight class and equipment used...
for example:
Lifter 1 is a 123 raw BP'er who does 200 and the WR is 300.. then his % is 66%..
and Lifter 2 is a 242 multi-ply who does 700 and the WR is 1000.. then his % is 70...
Lifter 2 wins Best BP'er...

PS.. the World Records I used are not accurate... but I believe you can get the current records from Powerlifting Watch...

That is a good idea, few things people might find faulty with that.
IE Take Kennelly's 1080....your average equipped bencher isn't getting more than 200 lbs carryover. Then people are going to complain and want to use single ply records etc
For Raw, you're most likely going to have kids and master's benching who'll find it unfair they're comparing against Open records,etc.

OP, you can't appease everyone unless you have separate awards based upon Wilks (Wilks has an age factor built in).