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NITF
10-04-2011, 03:03 PM
Does anyone have any thoughts on or experience with eating for hormone manipulation? e.g. increasing testosterone through diet etc... I'll go ahead and state that I'm rather dubious of this myself but it seems like something worthy of at least a little attention.

here's some relevant links on test "boosting" foods:

http://increasetestosteronenaturally.org/testosterone-boosting-foods/
http://www.livestrong.com/article/15558-high-testosterone-foods/

Test lowering foods:

http://www.labrada.com/members/week186.htm#art1

and of coarse there is the anabolic / metabolic diet....

http://stronglifts.com/anabolic-diet-101-the-definite-anabolic-diet-guide/

Behemoth
10-04-2011, 03:51 PM
Unless you're deficient for dietary reasons trying to manipulate much above normal levels isn't really practical.

JSully
10-04-2011, 03:59 PM
Unless you're deficient for dietary reasons trying to manipulate much above normal levels isn't really practical.

to expand on this, I think eating foods that MAY boost hormone levels would be so insiginificant you wouldn't even see the results in your training or physique. Now, if I could boost my natty test levels an extra 500ng/ml out of eating unadulterated horse-shit, you bet your ass I'd scarf that shit down 3x/day. But then horse-shit would be classified as a PED and end up being on the controlled substance list. haha..

Invain
10-04-2011, 05:05 PM
I think proper supplementation and diet can make a decent impact. Obviously taking in sufficient vitamins and minerals is an easy step. Zinc is known to be important in test production.

Fish Oil supposedly helps lower SHBG.

One of the most important things you can do, IMO, is take in enough fats, including saturated fats. Cholesterol is also important.

NITF
10-04-2011, 07:22 PM
I think proper supplementation and diet can make a decent impact. Obviously taking in sufficient vitamins and minerals is an easy step. Zinc is known to be important in test production.

Fish Oil supposedly helps lower SHBG.

One of the most important things you can do, IMO, is take in enough fats, including saturated fats. Cholesterol is also important.

how much is enough?

Alex.V
10-05-2011, 06:50 AM
how much is enough?

More than you're probably getting but less than the average american.

Something like this would be dependent on bodyweight, activity level, etc... then you'd have to plug it into a formula to calculate how much you'd need. Problem is, since nobody has any clue what that formula IS (read: it doesn't exist), chances are you should forget about it.

Just make fat about 20% of your diet and go from there.

Holto
10-05-2011, 12:15 PM
Just make fat about 20% of your diet and go from there.

I think this is the best take home message. It has been demonstrated that consuming less than 20% fat causes test production to drop. Beyond that we can't really increase it significantly.

So give your body the raw materials it needs to make test (sat fat) and keep rocking.

Alex.V
10-05-2011, 08:03 PM
http://increasetestosteronenaturally.org/testosterone-boosting-foods/


" Garlic increases libido because it contains a compound known as allicin, this promotes a rise in testosterone levels."

... sort of hilarious that allicin is destroyed instantly in the stomach, and therefore isn't absorbed from garlic in normal circumstances.

This just in- pseudoscience is still stupid.