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Ender Wiggin
04-15-2012, 12:14 AM
Hey guys, I'm 6'2 20yrs & 204lbs and I'm an MMA fighter and a kickboxer. I used to be about 180lbs, but I guess I hit a growth spurt and now I can't manage to cut down to 170lbs anymore. Anyway I lost weight from 210 to 195 to compete at 185. I didn't particularly enjoy doing this at all and i've already regained most the weight. Basically I want to compete at heavyweight with has a 265lb cap. In the short term I'd like to compete at around 230lbs. Gaining a bit of bodyfat isn't a huge issue, but I certainly don't want to be obese like (some) powerlifter. Whats the best way to go about this? Any help would be much appreciated.

Current Measurements.

Chest: 45in
Hips (around buttock) : 41in
Waist (measured around belly button. Jean size 32) : 36in
Wrist: 7.5in
Forearm: 12in
Upper arm : 15in
At approx 15% BF.
P.S. I'm very new to weightlifting, as in less than a couple months of serious lifting. I'm looking at starting the 5/3/1 after my knee surgery.

tom183
04-15-2012, 05:58 AM
Whats the best way to go about this?

To adjust your diet. Are you currently counting calories? Do you know your maintenance level?

Ender Wiggin
04-15-2012, 07:52 AM
My

BMR is 2100

TDEE is 3300

Yeah im counting my calories, or at least making an honest effort I write down everythin I eat.

joey54
04-15-2012, 09:17 AM
You don't sound like you have the frame to be a heavyweight. Just my opinion.

Ender Wiggin
04-15-2012, 09:24 AM
You don't sound like you have the frame to be a heavyweight. Just my opinion.

If you don't mind, Could you elaborate for me? Also I can post pics if that would help?

joey54
04-15-2012, 02:22 PM
Your body isn't meant to be a heavyweight fighter. Yes you can pack on size and inflate yourself, but if you are 6'2", have a 36 inch waist and weight 204, 185 is the perfect weight for you. 205 is pushing it.

Harnold
04-18-2012, 03:35 PM
ender,
This is not meant as an insult, but I agree with Joey. I used to be a boxer, and I do know a little about cutting for fights..etc..judging by your measurements you aren't meant to be a heavyweight. Not to say you can't get as big as a heavyweight, but you would most likely always or quite often find yourself facing stronger and naturally bigger fighters, who have cut down from a size you built up to. you know what I mean? I hope this makes sense when you read it. Best example would be a guy who walks around at 230lbs, cutting down to 205....another guy, who basically walks around at 210 or 215 cuts down to 205. Pretty good chance they both strength train, well most likely the guy who walks around at 230 regularly will be the stronger guy. both equally trained of course.just my 2cents, but I ran up against that type of thing a couple of times.

r2473
04-18-2012, 04:26 PM
HeCurrent Measurements.

Chest: 45in
Hips (around buttock) : 41in
Waist (measured around belly button. Jean size 32) : 36in
Wrist: 7.5in
Forearm: 12in
Upper arm : 15in
At approx 15% BF.
P.S. I'm very new to weightlifting, as in less than a couple months of serious lifting. I'm looking at starting the 5/3/1 after my knee surgery.

If we assume your ankle to measure 9.75", then plugging in your measurements into the calculator in the link below, if you were "maxed out" in terms of natural muscle growth (meaning, you are basically Reg Park), you would still need to have ~20% bodyfat to reach a ~270 lb. bodyweight. Assuming you are not that musculary developed, you'd probably end up being over 30% bodyfat when you reach your desired 270 lb. bodyweight.

http://www.weightrainer.net/bodypred.html

Of course this calculator is not perfectly accurate. Personally, I think it measures a bit "high", which is to say that you will probably have a higher bf% when you reach your desired weight.

Barbaccio
04-18-2012, 05:20 PM
Eat. Alot. Like a gallon of milk a day alot. My work is done here. Back to the Powerlifting section.

krazylarry
04-18-2012, 10:52 PM
6'2 stay at middle weight. End thread. HW is for freaks of nature, you are not. At MW you should have a reach advantage, this is huge, at 205 you are avg, and HW you are small.

krazylarry
04-18-2012, 10:56 PM
Oh and at 200 you should still be able to make WW. Lyman Good, is 199 lbs in this pic the day of the fight, and he weighed in at 170. And there is no way you are carrying as much muscle as him.

Holto
04-19-2012, 09:38 AM
I agree with everyone here. The goal is to fight at the weight class where you have the biggest advantage. Lesnar & Carwin needed custom made gloves to fight in the UFC. If you want to be champ you have to ask yourself if you can defeat guys like that. I know Brock was cutting weight...that means he walks around at 280ish...