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WannaBeStrong
06-13-2002, 12:29 PM
What is everyone's opinion on refeeds as the title suggests?

I generally utilize the "treat" factor where I eat 1 meal of General Tso's chicken (no rice) on Saturday, while keeping the rest of my meals strict. I am thinking that refeeding more often [and more healthy] might keep my fat loss moving at a quicker pace.

I've also seen "cycling" calories like :
Week 1: 2500 2400 2300 2200 2100 2000 1900
Week 2: 2400 2300 2200 2100 2000 1900 1800
Week 3: 2300 2200 2100 2000 1900 1800 1700

I take ECA but I don't think it's enough to totally combat a slowing metabolism.

What is your opinion?

Fudomyo
06-13-2002, 03:15 PM
I've switched to 2 insulin spikes a day to try and keep my metabolism up. I'm pretty sure that works great, because I can lose upto 2lbs of glycogen now in a day, eat more, and I'm hungrier (long after a potential insulin induced sugar crash).

Normally I was losing 1/2 lb a day (glycogen I believe), on less calories.

Breakfast and PW are the obvious choices. Glycogen deprived, and ready for a lot of protein.

Not a clue weather the (lowfat) refeeds help or hurt. General Tsao's chicken is probably not a good one, since it's got soo much fat. On a high insulin refeed, you'd just pack all that fat back on. Stick with just carbs / protein.

Anyone?

WannaBeStrong
06-14-2002, 07:52 AM
That's a good deal of glycogen lost per day.

I've seen people discuss refeeds here before, I know others implement this.

also: Do you refeed @ maintenance or slightly above?

Fudomyo
06-14-2002, 08:23 AM
I have had good luck with two days at maintenance. (Till I couldn't get anywhere w/ 2,200 anymore)

The last "refeed" was more like 4 hrs. I'm sure I was under or par for the day.

A new record today 183.5, so something is different. I'm excited.

Fudo

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06-14-2002, 08:27 AM
If you lose 1lb or more after the first week I'd keep calories still and follow the exact plan again. I've been at 2000 calories / day for 5 straight weeks and have been losing 1-1.5lbs each week and the weight loss has been at least 80% fat.

Also about your refeed question. Answers vary, but I think majority says BMR+50%. Most males have a BMR of around 2000. So that means you eat 3000cals on a refeed day.

Thats probably most beneficial not only for leptine but mental reasons. Although both are sorta linked I suppose.

I think you only need 1 refeed / week for >10% bf. 2 refeeds / week for <10%.
High high carbs, moderate protein, and as low of fat as possible.
I'd keep each refeed within 12 hours too.

ryuage
06-14-2002, 10:04 AM
can someone inform me what exactly a "refeed" is

Blood&Iron
06-14-2002, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by ryuage
can someone inform me what exactly a "refeed" is
Planned overfeeding. A search on the term here should bring up plenty of info.