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Manipul8r
05-12-2001, 10:38 AM
Im 18, 150lbs. 10-12%bf (maybe a little higher now.) My Goal is to gain lean muscle.

Meal 1-764 calories,17.9 fat, 67.6 carbs, 82 protein.
-Isopure Shake
-6 eggwhites w/2yokes
-1 cup oatmeal
-Grapejuice (creatine)
-Flaxseed Pill

Meal 2- 488 calories, 8.1 fat, 27.5 carbs, 42.6 protein
-1 can tuna
-1 Bananna
-1 Plain Bagel

Meal 3- 500 calories, 10.2 fat, 24 carbs, 72.8 protein
-1/2lb grilled chkn breast
-2 slice whole wheat

Meal 4 (pre-workout)-270 calories, 4 fat, 42 carbs, 14 protein
-Grapejuice(creatine)
-1 SERVING tuna
-Flaxseed Pill

Meal 5- 877 calories, 14 fat, 104 carbs, 78 protein
-Rest of Tuna from before meal
-Isopure shake
-Grapejuice (creatine)
-1tblspn PB
-1 cup brown rice
-1 sweet potatoe

Meal 6- 486 calories, 8.2 fat, 27.9 carbs, 70.5 protein
-1/2 lb grilled chkn
-sweet potatoe

Meal 7- 190 calories, 7.4 fat, 10 carbs, 24.7 protein
-6eggwhites w/1 yoke

Grand Totals-3576 calories, 70 fat, 279 carbs, 383 protein (too much?????)

Well that’s it, any input appreciated again, thanx…

The_Chicken_Daddy
05-12-2001, 10:42 AM
what's with all the creatine?

You'd be better off having the tuna for breakfast and the isopure for post training - as nasty as that sounds.

I ate tuna for breakfast for about 6 months.

Nasty pasty.

Manipul8r
05-12-2001, 11:06 AM
loading the creatine, today is the last day of that ill be loading. why tuna in the morning? anyone else?:) :D

The_Chicken_Daddy
05-12-2001, 11:23 AM
you don't need to load, just like you don't need to cycle.

Manipul8r
05-12-2001, 11:42 AM
yea i only did two days b/c of the mixed opinions i've heard about loading. Im done now and only taking it once a day.

Cackerot69
05-12-2001, 11:52 AM
That diet looks very good. I'm impressed :)

The only thing i would do is add some carbs in the last meal, 30-50g.

I would also add a little more fat, about 30 additional grams on the total.

Manipul8r
05-12-2001, 11:59 AM
yea but what kind of carbs do you think i should add (from what source?). You dont think thats too much protein?

Cackerot69
05-12-2001, 12:05 PM
I would add some oats, or another low GI complex carb.

Nah, the protein is fine.

Anthony
05-12-2001, 01:13 PM
I think the diet looks good. Good ratios/calories with the breakfast/post workout meals (2 most important meals of the day). I agree with the carbs in the last meal ... green leafy vegetables would be a good idea.

syntekz
05-12-2001, 01:32 PM
ive heard that the body can only deal with around 50 grams of protein at a time. any truth to that?

Franco
05-12-2001, 01:35 PM
Put veggies some broccoli or cauliflower in least 3 or your meals

Dabomber
05-12-2001, 01:42 PM
Grand Totals-3576 calories, 70 fat, 279 carbs, 383 protein (too much?????)


70 x 9 = 630kcal
279 x 4 = 1116kcal
380 x 4 = 1520kcal
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Total = 3266

um.. are u sure that it is 3576kcal??

Manipul8r
05-12-2001, 02:48 PM
lol, well I was until your post. hmmm, im gonna look over the piece of paper i had everything written on, maybe i copied something wrong. Anyway, regardless of that, are you in agreeance with everyone else? or do yo usee something else? :D Once again guys thanx for your posts, keep em coming, I've had much difficulty with the diet thing.

Spiderman
05-12-2001, 04:10 PM
hey bro, your protein intake is to high. Are you currently on a cycle of AS? I assume you're not, therefore lower it man, your body doesn't need that much...thats a fact. I'd lower it to about 250 or perhaps a little less. As for the carbs I'd raise'em a little bit...perhaps to 300?? These aren't magical numbers of course, but I do know that your protein intake is to high man. And the creatine CAN be loaded, but it doesn't have to be. There are a few different ways to take creatine. Hope this helps some bro. ;)

Dabomber
05-12-2001, 06:26 PM
same opinion as mutated Spider that sucked gear up...
Too much protein..
u weigh 150 and take 380g??...
take about 1.5g of ur body weight and that would be "PLENTY!"
others would be just turn into glucose to used up as carb, turn fat or u pee or poop it out..
Since protein is usually more expensive than carbs.. why dont u just eat carbs instead of that??
Raise ur Carb to 350 .. drop ur protein to 250..

Spiderman
05-12-2001, 07:31 PM
hahahah..funny 'bomber. ;)

Manipul8r
05-13-2001, 07:23 PM
oh man, ok, so raise carbs. and lower protein, in which meals should i lower the protein? sorry if im bein a pain, im apparently much better at cutting than bulking. lol. :D :)

Dabomber
05-13-2001, 09:02 PM
Meal 1,3,5,6
Cut protein down to 40~50g..
dat will cut 120g of proteins down..

as far as carb goes,
increase it in
Meal 2,3,6
bring it up to about 50g

YatesNightBlade
05-14-2001, 01:47 AM
IMO ..... too much protein.

Spiderman
05-14-2001, 05:59 AM
I disagree with some of these guys in adding 30-50g of carbs into meal 6. The purpose of bulking is to gain weight, yes, BUT all those carbs are just gonna turn to fat. I hope you heed my advice, and if you need more carbs add'em to other meals. :D

Manipul8r
05-15-2001, 03:56 PM
Thanx for the help guys, im gonna try and take your advice and maybe get it right this time, 3 times a charm................................maybe. :D

Dabomber
05-16-2001, 07:00 AM
I just had another glanced look and... ur carb count is lower that it actually is tuttut

for example..


Meal 1-764 calories,17.9 fat, 67.6 carbs, 82 protein.
-Isopure Shake
-6 eggwhites w/2yokes
-1 cup oatmeal
-Grapejuice (creatine)
-Flaxseed Pill

Isopure = 25g carb
1cup oatmeal = 54g carb
1cup grapejuice = 24g carb
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100g??????tuttut:confused:

and..


Meal 2- 488 calories, 8.1 fat, 27.5 carbs, 42.6 protein
-1 can tuna
-1 Bananna
-1 Plain Bagel

What size is ur bagel??????
Banana it self is at least 25g carb!!!

beercan
05-16-2001, 11:13 AM
Looks pretty good man...BUT, ditto what these guys said about the protein....I'm on a keto diet, and 70 lbs heavier than you, and that's about how much I'm getting....You can go for about 400 carbs a day...and don't be afraid of the junk food...

BTW, what part of long island are you from?

Manipul8r
05-16-2001, 04:35 PM
hey dabomber, the ISOPURE shake is only 3g carbs. the grape juice is 42, and the oatmeal is 27. Or at least thats what the information says. hmmmmmm, on the things and about meal 2, thats my mistake, i copied it from my piece of paper wrong the carbs I have there are really 57.5. Sound better? Once again thanx for takin the time to reply guys. :) :D

Yaz
05-16-2001, 05:24 PM
He's trying to gain lean muscle. 100g of carbs post workout if he trains hard isn't a bad thing at all. Personally I must concur, get some carbs in your diet... maybe some more essential fats and lower the protein.

Don't be afraid to eaaaaaat. I get scared sometimes, but then I look at myself after I've done cardio, and say:

"Damn! That Somalian is much more buff than you."

It motivates me. :D