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bob2624
07-27-2002, 05:34 PM
Hey. I wanna be big... thus i am on the wannabebigforums however, I don't wanna gain any fat whatsoever. For that reason I raised my calorie intake but I am afraid to raise it too much. I just wanted to know how many calories u guys think I should eat per day if i am 16 years old- about 153 lbs- and about 5'11"... Just remember I don't wanna gain any fat at all, in fact I wanna lose some fat. Right now by bf% is at around 10-11%. Any suggestions?

bob2624
07-27-2002, 05:37 PM
btw... I wanna hopefully gain about 25 lbs in the next year, as I stated, all muscle. I am training 5 days a week now. but I just wanted to add that my goal weight is around 175-180. Thanks

Shao-LiN
07-27-2002, 06:01 PM
You're gonna have a hard time bulking w/o gaining some fat. It's not a lot.

bob2624
07-27-2002, 06:32 PM
I know I have to gain some fat but I am basically a lean guy and I am not used to having any fat... I just wanna stay as thin as I can while gaining the weight... I wanna be big though and I don't wanna be fat... How do those huge guys do it? They have bulking seasons and cutting seasons? Is there any way to gain the weight and stay lean all year round? I am not trying to be a pro bodybuilder, I just wanna stay thin and reach my goal. I know it is idealistic but I think i can do it

Shao-LiN
07-27-2002, 10:15 PM
Bulk and cut is the cycle, pretty much. If you're already pretty lean, you're not going to magically get fat w/ no muscle gain unless you just eat and not train.

Pros outweigh the cons IMO.

mrunknown
07-28-2002, 07:06 AM
how much calores are needed to build muscle

Shao-LiN
07-28-2002, 09:01 AM
However much your body needs. Everyone is different.

Silverback
07-28-2002, 09:10 AM
im afraid to say bob, unless you want to stay skinny, then your going to gain fat, i cant understand why somebody on a site where people want to get big, ask questions about staying small:confused:

bob2624
07-28-2002, 02:40 PM
I don't wanna stay small, but I don't wanna get fat. I wanna gain as much muscle as I can and get a big and strong as I can without gaining the fat. I understand that some fat gain is necessary, but I want to gain as little as possible while getting as big as possible.

Shao-LiN
07-28-2002, 02:52 PM
Then work out hard, eat clean and keep focus. Not much else I can think of, really.

Silverback
07-28-2002, 02:52 PM
In order to achive minimal fat gain you have to do a slow bulk consuming the exact amount to allow for muscle growth, this can be very time consuming and frustrating, it will take much longer but you should be able to keep a considerable amount of leanness, i tried it at first but went on to more of a bulk to achieve better size and strength gains, at an optimal rate, im gaining a bit of fat but nothing to worry about.

ryuage
07-28-2002, 03:36 PM
i have gone from 175 to 192 in about 4-5 months with minimal fat gain but once i hit 200 its time to cut yeeeeek.

bob2624
07-28-2002, 08:38 PM
So it is possible to gain the weight without the fat pretty fast with just more work?

ryuage
07-28-2002, 08:58 PM
you're gonna put on fat when you put on some serious muscle... depending on how you go about it depends on how much fat you put on.

bob2624
07-28-2002, 09:24 PM
I understand. I am willing to do alot to gain the weight, it is just really important to me that i don't gain the fat so I just wanted to make sure it was possible. U have any suggestions on how I can gain the weight without the fat?

g-dot
07-29-2002, 02:55 PM
You can gain muscle steadily without gaining significant bodyfat. You won't put on 25lbs of pure muscle in 12 months though. That just won't happen.

1. Eat lots
2. Eat clean
3. Train hard
4. Stop drinking and using drugs
5. Get plenty of sleep

gopher
07-30-2002, 01:54 AM
In order to have any chance of coming close to this goal you would need to have a detailed plan and stick to it religioulsy. This plan would need to include heavy basic compound lifting, lots of clean eating, plenty of rest, and absolutely no drugs or alcohol.
In previous posts you said you will not give up booze and may get high once or twice a month. If you still plan on doing those things there is no way you will add 25 lbs of lean mass in a year.

bob2624
07-30-2002, 05:10 AM
I have decided to give up alchohol and don't plan to do any drugs at any time soon but i am not making any promises about the drugs. If I don't do drugs or drink, eat good, and work out consistantly, u think it is possibe to be 180 in a year? I have already made pretty good gains I think. I was 137 in November and weighed myself today at 154. Almost a year with 17 pound gain. I didn't gain too much fat (if any) and I didn't even start eating good till last week. U think i can do it if i stay clean?