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05-23-2001, 11:57 AM
Okay, this is my ... halfway done(?) CKD diet. Tell me what you think here. The routine is posted in my journal for tension/depletion, etc.

Diet Schedule: This is completely rancid.

Days 1-5: Depletion & Ketosis Stages

Meal 1 - 7:00a

4 Whole Extra Large Eggs - 270 Cals, 28g fat, 2g Carbs, 28g Protein

Meal 2 - 10:30a

One Can Solid White Tuna - 175 Calories, 2.5g Fat, 0g Carbs, 37.5g Protein
1.5 Tbsp. Hellmann's Mayo - 150 Cals, 16g Fat, 0g Carbs, 1g Protein

Meal 3 - 1:30p

4 Ounces 85% Lean Ground Round - 250 Calories, 15g Fat, 0g Carbs, 28g Protein
1 Tbsp. Hellmann's Mayo - 150 Cals, 16g fat, 0g Carbs, 1g Protein

Meal 4 - 4:30p

8 Oz Grilled Chicken - 250 Calories, 8g Fat, 0g Carbs, 46g Protein
1.5 Tbsp. Hellmann's Mayo - 150 Cals, 16g Fat, 0g Carbs, 1g Protein
1 Tbsp. Natural PB - 100 Cals, 8g Fat, 3g Carbs, 3g Protein

Meal 5 - 8:00p

Simply Whey Protein - 115 Calories, 3g Fat, 4g Carbs, 21g Protein
3 Egg Whites - 50 Calories, 0g Fat, 0g Carbs, 12g Protein
1 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil - 125 Calories, 14g Fat, 0g Carbs, 0g Protein

Day 6: Carb Loading & Rest Day

Right now, I believe just taking out the mayo, substituting it with 1/2 Cup Oats, taking out the red meat and putting in a lean protein source will do the trick. Almost exactly the same calories, and a good 30-40g Carbohydrates per meal. Possibly 1 Cup of Brown Rice instead of 1/2 Cup Oats in one of the meals.

Day 7: Rest day. Back to normal 9g Carbs per day.

05-23-2001, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Yaz
Tell me what you think here.

I think you shoule be more focused on a diet to get big, instead of one for getting small.:)

05-23-2001, 01:21 PM
At 17.4% bodyfat, I need to drop some of it before I even think about bulking up. I'd like to get down to 10-11, before going for size. Any more than I have now, and mentally, I am going to freak.

So other than that, what do you think? :D

05-23-2001, 01:40 PM
*agrees with beercan*

Frig the bodyfat for now as you bulk up, youre not going to put on only fat, so you will put on muscle... once you have some muscles then cut, it will be a whole lot easier. The more muscle you have, the more calories you burn.

05-23-2001, 01:42 PM
Fat boy needs a clean slate. This is very hard mentally to deal with.

05-23-2001, 02:06 PM
They dont mean to Bulk up like crazy dude.. Rather than cutting, just eat more and gain more muscles..
By looking at ur journal.. i can tell that ur diet sorta sucked when u were trying to gain some muscle mass..

i ate lots today, i dont know how much i ate.. I'm still eatting.. eating ice cream, blah blah...

Just bulk clean, then it;ll be all good

05-23-2001, 03:04 PM
4 whole eggs seems a lot to me. I have read your not supposed to eat more then 300mg of cholesterol per day, even though your body only soaks up like 20% of it. Maybe try eating more egg whites? Or two whole and two white.

05-23-2001, 03:33 PM
keithj, is that 300mg of HDL or LDL?

4 whole eggs isn't going to harm him one bit.

05-23-2001, 08:19 PM
Uhm, what the hell?

I'm looking through this info, but I cannot see a clear cut way to come OUT of this diet? Anyone know? Er...?:confused:

the doc
05-28-2001, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by beercan

I think you shoule be more focused on a diet to get big, instead of one for getting small.:)

you can get stronger on this diet while losing fat. You need to eat a lot though!!!

Its about cals in vs cals out as anthony would say.

I have been enjoying the NHE type cyclical diet. I think they can work. You MUST be very strict on your diet though.

05-28-2001, 07:10 PM
yaz check the journals,i started a keto diet! got my meals their

05-30-2001, 08:53 AM
"Four eggs a day isn't going to harm him one bit"

Every cardiologist in this country would disagree with this statement. Four eggs a day isn't NECESSARILY going to harm you but it certainly can.

My only observation is that you should replace the mayonnaise with a more unsaturated fat source like olive oil, seeds, nuts, etc.

The jury may be out on whether dietary cholesterol (like eggs) affects blood cholesterol but dietary saturated fat is a killer, of that there is little doubt.