Dianbol and gyno how safe?

[lazyman79]

Hey, I'll be doing a cycle with mainly just using sust but was wondering if it qould be ok to use d-bol for the first 3 or 4 weeks taking 15-20mg. The only thing is im afraid of estrogen build up. Would I be ok If I was taking proviron in addition with the nolvadex? Oh and how long does the d-bol stay in your system for? Dont want it comming up on a pee test or anything =-).

[Budiak]

I think you should be fine as far as your gyno goes, nolva isnt the best but you're not taking rediculous dose of Dbol, how much sust are you taking? You do have your clomid for post-cycle therapy, dont you?

Anyways, I dont know about these fancy steroid tests, but why would you have to take a pee test anytime soon? Most drug tests dont test for AS, its too expensive. Even most police pee tests, like ones for parolees dont include tests for AS unless thats what you were busted for. Hell, the drug tests that cops take annually (to keep their job) doesnt include a steroid test.

[BUFF STUFF]

If your worried about piss test, The sust will stay in your system alot longer than the dbol.
dbol is procesessed quickly, but injections stay in the body longer. They wont test you for gear anyways
try 0.25 of arimidex with your dbol E/D and you should be ok
if you dont have any arimidex get some now

[pearl]

a friend of mine took dbol for 1 year straight up to 6 per day(30mg) and no gyno.
some baldness, considering that he is 18.
and his "snake" was a little asleep after that.

[zwarrior99]

Dont take nolvadex or any other anti-e's only liquidex. Unless you dont want to gain muscle, cause anti-e's dont let you gain. Only take them if you feel that gyno is coming up. Itchy nipples, irritated, they hurt, bump, when you have these signs time to crank up the anti-e's and lower that test. ;)

[Belial]

You can gain quite well 'even' when taking anti-estrogens. Saying they don't let you gain is just wrong, man.

[Tryska]

wow...someone's come a long way since that time he got screamed on.

[lazyman79]

;)

[zwarrior99]

He wont gain much of anything if he is taking high doseages of nolvadex and proviron. You will gain but no point when you can just take the anti-e's when needed.

[Tadger]

I don't think proviron has any antiestrogenic properties. It just binds to SHBG preventing it from doing it's job... does it not?

[zwarrior99]

provirion has mild anti-e properties. But nothing extraordinary.

[Tryska]

lazyman..i can't remember how bad, but you did get a full round from what i remember correctly. looks liek you've been doing your research tho. ;)

[BUFF STUFF]

Originally posted by Tadger
I don't think proviron has any antiestrogenic properties. It just binds to SHBG preventing it from doing it's job... does it not?

Belial or ST or any of the mods/experts have opions on this, Im confused now. Some says proviron is a anti E, some say its not. Whats the facts here??
I always thought it was aromatise reducer

[zwarrior99]

http://www.getswole.com/profiles/proviron.html , it is anti estrogenic, it also works to restore natrual test production, but unlike HCG and clomid, it does not help maintain strength so its wise to stack it with these.

[BUFF STUFF]

yo zwarrior bro, nice site but it made claims like "primo dosnt aromatise" the mods on here tell me all forms of test aromatises. Im not sure if the info on that site is 100% legit

[zwarrior99]

Primobolan dont aromatise, not all of them do anyways, thats why people use primo when they are cutting. I am sure it armoatise's but to little. Mostly the cutting drugs dont aromatise alot. The site is pretty good, and solid info. Its ran by one of the ELITE members, on the boards.

[Budiak]

Its run by someone on Elite, do you need any more assurement?

Getswole...makes teh Budiak laugh.