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Yaz
06-20-2001, 02:52 PM
My waist measured 32.5 while drained fully of water and glycogen. It is now two days later in ketosis... and I am down to 31.7. I have lost a pound in total on the scale, and it is visible in my waist and abs. Atop of this, I feel really clear-headed, more energetic, and just better overall. Stress = 0. My best workouts came while DEPLETING.

Just thought I might let you guys know. I think when they said ketosis targets those areas first, they weren't kidding.

c_8nOM
06-20-2001, 03:15 PM
Congrats Yaz!!
Way to go!!!
how's ur lifting going?

Yaz
06-20-2001, 03:22 PM
It's ... going.

My goals on this diet are slightly different than 'lifting heavy and getting huge' - More or less, I am really only lifting now to deplete myself, and keep what muscle I have as far away from atrophy as possible.

the doc
06-20-2001, 03:49 PM
Congrats!

Yaz, i dropped 20 lbs during a month of the NHE type ckd. The waist is where a lot of it came from. Also, the fat underneath your adipose layer (so-called "internal fat") of the belly is also very succeptible.

I actually enjoy low carb dieting for the very reasons you mentioned

Yaz
06-20-2001, 03:57 PM
You'd think one pound would not be noticeable. And in most cases, it wouldn't.

But man, I can see it. Doc, 20 lbs in one month?? 20 would be ultimate for me, if it were all fat. I'd be shredded beyond belief. 15 is about what I am shooting for. That gets me to 10% bodyfat. Though I think at best I'll drop 12 in a month.

20 lbs leaves me at about 8-9%. Holy ****e! Did you do a lot of cardio? And one other question. I am depleted right now of all glycogen, and the "Start up" phase requires I go 12 days without a carb up. Is this neccessary? I cannot see me lifting next Monday without a carb up day. My strength will be in the dumps.

Wizard
06-21-2001, 05:18 AM
You lost water.That's why your waist is smaller.

Spiderman
06-21-2001, 06:52 AM
doc what is the NHE part of CKD??

Yaz
06-21-2001, 07:33 AM
Blackalpha,

I was pretty well glyocgen depleted 100%, and at 32.5 inches.

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Savannah
06-21-2001, 08:48 AM
wow Yaz, congrats!

I'm not really a big fan of CKD but now I'm starting to ponder the idea of trying one myself :confused:

the doc
06-21-2001, 10:02 AM
I should note that i was 205 (22%) and lost a lot of easily shed fat (ie gut), glycogen, and water brought me down to 180 (17%). Roughly 11 lbs of fat, rest was water and glycogen and some muscle (you cant ever totally stop this)

Since you are already not as fat as i was you will probably have to work harder but it can be done!

Yaz
06-21-2001, 10:04 AM
Since you're still lookin'...

I gotta ask, before Saturday. Do I skip the carb up this first week and wait till week 2? Monday/Tuesday workouts are going to be a pest I bet...

Wizard
06-21-2001, 11:21 AM
Ketones are very diuretic.That's why I told you that most of it was water.I don't doubt you.The lowest bf levels I've ever reached is 6%at 160lbs,with a good CKD.(oh,to mention:I used some clen/t3/ketotifen :D )And I steel maintain it.The higher ratio you keep on fat over protein,the higher bodyfat loss you have,but don't overdo it.Carb up every -at least- 8 days,to get your t3 levels back to normal.