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AJ22
10-26-2002, 06:25 PM
I heard everyone mention Peanut butter, as a good :eek: food to eat during bulking and cutting. Don't get me wrong, peanut butter is yum! but I just don't see, how it is healthy for anyone.

Isn't it insanely high in fat - how much do you have a day?

entrrt
10-26-2002, 06:38 PM
it's got the good fats( poly/mono unsat. fats).

NateDogg
10-26-2002, 06:50 PM
Make sure it's natural peanut butter. Regular PB is not all that good for you as it contains bad fats (hydrogenated soy bean oil to name one).

ChubbZ
10-26-2002, 07:16 PM
is peanut butter good for bulking or cutting can someone clarify please?????

NateDogg
10-26-2002, 07:19 PM
Natural peanut butter is fine for both. It is an excellent source of fat.

LAM
10-26-2002, 07:39 PM
generally plant fats are good and animal fats are bad

izitnick
10-26-2002, 08:13 PM
How can you tell if something like Jif peanut butter is natural or not?

NateDogg
10-26-2002, 08:30 PM
Jif is not. Any peanut butter on which ingredients listed go beyond "peanuts" or "peanuts, salt" is not natural peanut butter.

izitnick
10-26-2002, 09:16 PM
ok. What's an example of a brand of natural peanut butter that I could buy (so I know to look for it the next time I'm at the store)? Or is it only sold at health food stores?

Shao-LiN
10-26-2002, 09:19 PM
Smucker's is a good brand. But really, it'll say natural peanut butter on it.

And I'd say you NEED a healthy amount of fats in your diet. Don't get caught up in the "fat will make me fat" line of thinking.

LAM
10-26-2002, 09:19 PM
Laura Scudder's is one brand I get it at Von's or Smith's

Saint Patrick
10-26-2002, 09:42 PM
Adams is the best.

NateDogg
10-26-2002, 10:12 PM
I like Teddy's, Smucker's is great too.

Shao-LiN
10-26-2002, 10:28 PM
Hey, I got a question...you guys opt for regular or unsalted?

AJ_11
10-27-2002, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by Shao-LiN
Hey, I got a question...you guys opt for regular or unsalted?

Unsalted Natty PB..YUM..YUM...I only I had some right now.

restless
10-27-2002, 05:01 AM
Natural peannut butter should have some liquid on top at room temperature, if it doesn't, it has hydrogenated fats in it and should be avoided.

Personally, I recomend almond butter instead. Peannut has a high omega 6 and nuts are a much better source of fats (peannut is not a nut, in case you don't know). Omega 6 are something you don't need on your diet, they promote inflamation and are bad for you if the omega 3 to omega 6 ration leans too much in favor of the latest.

I completely disagree with LAM's statement. Im my opinion, all vegetable fats should be avoided, except nuts, coconut and extra virgin olive oil. Animal fats on the contrary are fine, especially if they are fed accordingly to their natural diets, which unfortunately doesn't happen much.

There is a strong possibility that we've all been subjected to a vicious propaganda during many years that demonised animal fats all in the name of profit for the vegetable oil industry. But I digress.....

NateDogg
10-27-2002, 06:02 AM
I go with salted. I've had un-salted and it just doesn't do it for me.

Saint Patrick
10-27-2002, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by restless
Animal fats on the contrary are fine

WTF? Animal fat is mostly saturated.

Mortin
10-27-2002, 12:08 PM
ya animal fat is saturated bad bad bad!

restless
10-27-2002, 12:57 PM
50 % of the fat in meat is monosaturated and most of this is the same kind as in olive oil, the other 45 % is saturated but 30% of that is stearic acid which is not considered a bad fat. The rest is polysaturated. Most of the fat in beef is actually known to lower cholesterol

Eggs are even better.

Grass fed beef and wild game are even high in omega 3.

They have lied to you.

BennettBoy
10-27-2002, 05:55 PM
I eat Jif. Screw it. I can buy smuckers at Walmart but I hate having to go to some Nature store to buy my PB. I eat 4 Tbsp a day. That's 400 calories and 32 grams fat. :D

It's all good.

hemants
10-28-2002, 08:05 AM
Read the ingredients like others have said.

It should say "Peanuts" or "Peanuts, Salt".

You'd be surprised at how many grocery stores carry at least one brand that is all natural. P.S. You should refrigerate it once you've opened it and make sure you stir it well the first time because it's harder to stir once it's been in the fridge.

gino
10-28-2002, 11:58 AM
Any kind of peanut butter is good for bulking or cutting, regardless of what kind it is. Just be careful when cutting because it's pretty dense in calories. If you're in good health, the ratio of "good" to "bad" fats is not that important unless you're eating half a jar a day or something rediculous like that. Compare the stats of regular pb to natty and see what I'm talking about. For 1 or 2 servings a day, I think what kind you're eating is irrelevant.

steveo
10-30-2002, 09:13 AM
I love Natty PB. I buy the unsalted kind and I'm completely addicted to it, but since I'm cutting at the moment I cut my serving to one serving a day usually before bed time.

Saint Patrick
10-30-2002, 07:52 PM
Jif and Skippy = Trans fats tuttut

gino
10-31-2002, 02:13 PM
Skippy Super Chunk = best pb ever

Jilla82
10-31-2002, 02:29 PM
im in love with peanut butter, i have to stop myself from eating it

bradley
10-31-2002, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Jilla82
im in love with peanut butter, i have to stop myself from eating it :nod:

AJ_11
10-31-2002, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Jilla82
im in love with peanut butter, i have to stop myself from eating it

same here. i could eat a jar in one sitting. oh wait I have.

Savannah
10-31-2002, 02:36 PM
Moi Aussi

Relentless
10-31-2002, 02:38 PM
President's Choice "Just Peanuts"

:drooling:

Actually there is a whole line of other nut-butters that are too good to be true... the Macadamia Nut Butter is completely sinful.

bradley
10-31-2002, 02:59 PM
cashew butter...seen it but never tried it

Jilla82
10-31-2002, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by AJ_11


i could eat a jar in one sitting. oh wait I have. :eek:

Savannah
11-02-2002, 10:26 AM
Just thought I'd let y'all in on a little bit of info.

I heard on the radio yesterday that November is actually the official month of Peanut Butter!!!!
How fitting for me since I'm a November gal. :nod:

ryan1117
11-02-2002, 10:53 AM
Is there any problem with eating peanuts instead of peanut butter? I usually eat the regular unshelled ones that seem to be low in saturated fats.

Mortin
11-02-2002, 11:27 AM
so basically everything is good for us. time to hit mcdonalds i guess.

Saint Patrick
11-02-2002, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by ryan1117
Is there any problem with eating peanuts instead of peanut butter? I usually eat the regular unshelled ones that seem to be low in saturated fats.

nothing wrong with it, you may wanna switch to unsalted though....

bradley
11-02-2002, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Mortin
so basically everything is good for us. time to hit mcdonalds i guess. :confused:

Mortin
11-02-2002, 03:52 PM
apparently beef is good, saturated fat is good, non-saturated fat is good, carbs are good, and protein is good.

smalls
11-02-2002, 05:03 PM
Yes, Mortin, pretty much.

restless
11-02-2002, 05:04 PM
Hodrogenated fat, trans fatty acids are not good. Acrilamid is not good. Chronic high insulin levels are also not good. Lack of omega 3 is not good. There's plenty of stuff that's not good.

chris mason
11-02-2002, 05:08 PM
This is a tough one for the bodybuilders of the world, but there really are no "bad" foodstuffs if consumed in moderation. Moderation is the key.

the doc
11-02-2002, 05:11 PM
best idea is to stick with the ones that say
ingredients: peanuts :D

bradley
11-02-2002, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by chris mason
This is a tough one for the bodybuilders of the world, but there really are no "bad" foodstuffs if consumed in moderation. Moderation is the key.

:nod:

smalls
11-02-2002, 05:33 PM
:)

Tank23
11-04-2002, 03:52 AM
ok, i get it that just 'peanuts' on the ingredients is natty PB, but I want to know if my PB is 'ok'.

Ingredients: Freshly Roasted Peanuts, Vegetable Oil, Sugar, Salt

Per 20g Serve:
2.3g carbs
sugars: 2g

10.7g fat
5.2g protein

Saint Patrick
11-04-2002, 07:56 PM
what brand is it?

Berserker
11-04-2002, 10:53 PM
I worried at first about peanuts reading a cup peanuts has 79g of fat. The I realized thats about a bag of shelled peanuts. eat shelled peanuts, the shell slows you down and you don' eat to many.
Berserker

AJ_11
11-04-2002, 11:08 PM
sure you will, you'll just spend more time eating.

Berserker
11-04-2002, 11:57 PM
Don't forget the cal you spend cracking the shells.
Ok, makes me feel better anyway.

Tank23
11-05-2002, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by stpatrick44
what brand is it?

Dick Smith Smooth PB

bradley
11-05-2002, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by Tank23
ok, i get it that just 'peanuts' on the ingredients is natty PB, but I want to know if my PB is 'ok'.

Ingredients: Freshly Roasted Peanuts, Vegetable Oil, Sugar, Salt

Per 20g Serve:
2.3g carbs
sugars: 2g

10.7g fat
5.2g protein

All the natty PB I have seen only contains says peanuts and salt on the ingredients. Some of the reduced fat natural peanut butter brands do have added sugar which is what it looks like you have.

jgleas14
11-06-2002, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by BennettBoy
I eat Jif. Screw it. I can buy smuckers at Walmart but I hate having to go to some Nature store to buy my PB. I eat 4 Tbsp a day. That's 400 calories and 32 grams fat. :D

It's all good.
Me too bro. Give me a break. If you're worrying about the little difference in fats between Jif and "natural", then you either worry too much, or need to change something else in your diet. The peanut butter is not the problem IMO!

AJ_11
11-06-2002, 04:21 PM
The Fats In Natty PB arn't bad for you, just the opposite. JIF contains hydrogenated Vegetable oil which are the Trans Fatty acids. Those are the fats that you should avoid. Also the suger in those brands will cause insulin spikes which also you want to avoid.

you should look for PB that has only peanuts listed in the ingredients

NateDogg
11-06-2002, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by jgleas14

Me too bro. Give me a break. If you're worrying about the little difference in fats between Jif and "natural", then you either worry too much, or need to change something else in your diet. The peanut butter is not the problem IMO!

What's wrong with trying to eat as healthy as possible while still enjoying it? I happen to love natural PB now and can not stand the regular stuff. I'm better off for it. Worrying about "the little difference" is what separates us from the rest of the population, IMHO. If bennett, or anyone else does not want to eat natural PB, fine, there is nothing wrong with that at all, but I bet he has made sacrifices elsewhere to get where he is.