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Blood&Iron
10-30-2002, 05:34 PM
Wednesday October 30, 2002

THE TIME IS AT HAND! BEHOLD THE REVELATION...



I AM NOW ON LYLE MCDONALD'S TOP-SECRET DIET/TRAINING PLAN!


Hell yeah!

I'm sure many of you could give a flying f*ck, but to people like myself, who esteem Lyle as one of the foremost thinkers in diet/exercise, this is pretty goddamn awesome.

Anyways, I had several email exchanges with Lyle about bromocriptine, during the course of which I mentioned some of my previous experiences with dieting and refeeds. He then offered to let me be a guinea pig for his current diet/training scheme. The only condition was that since it will be the subject of his next book, I can't really talk about it here. Not the training. Not the diet. At least not in any sort of specific detail. So, my journal is gonna be pretty empty from now on. No meal by meal breakdown. No detailed synopses of my gym sessions. I'll still write about what I'm doing but it'll be more subjective and vague.

Anyways, I do have some trepidation about all of this. Lyle's plan goes against much of what I've come to believe (and what I thought Lyle believed) about training and diet. It's a fairly extreme approach IMO, and it includes a number of things which coming from anyone else, I would have dismissed out of hand(and I would have assumed Lyle would have as well) as being counterproductive. It may also be incompatible with bromocriptine. I took 3.75mg of bromo on Monday morning, when I started the new program. About an hour after my workout, I started sweating, trembling, having nausea and severe headache. Basically, as far as I can figure, I went into hypoglycemia. I had some dextrose, but my symptoms did not immediately abate. I threw up about an hour later and felt like complete sh*t for another 3-4 hours. Hypoglycemia is NOT fun. I cut out bromo yesterday, but started back up on it today at a reduced dose of 1.25mg. I'll will see if it's possible to integrate it with Lyle's approach. If not, I'll have to save the stuff for later. Even Lyle admitted he didn't know if the new approach sans bromo(but with EC) would be more or less effective than my old one with bromo. Another drawback, is that I have to ditch HST, which is another difficult thing for me to do. It IS nice to try something a bit different after 7 months of the pretty much the same thing, though. So, basically I'm making a sh*tload of changes to what I'm doing. Whether this will lead to better results than I otherwise would've had is hard for me to say. I think my previous approach was working quite well(particularly with the addition of bromocriptine) If I can't use the bromo, that will be a signficant downside(along with a few others) Really, though, this opportunity was just to good to pass up. And who knows, it might finally allow me to get lean. One can only hope.

Ramblings
Bleh.

Exercise:

CLASSIFIED


Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
Did a good job. On target.
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Weight: 204lbs!

Sleep: 9 hours.

Miscelleneous: Man, are my legs and ass sore.

Marcel
10-30-2002, 05:50 PM
You are no longer just a tease. You are a lucky tease!

Damnit! I wanna know what this secret diet/workout plan is!

Lyle e-mail me! I'll be a guinea pig too damnit!

Anyways good luck Blood buddy ole pal. I hope you get lean as fvck!

Late.

rookiebldr
10-30-2002, 05:50 PM
Congrats on the opportunity. I shall miss the content unless you really are going to submit other non-related tibbits of information. Sounds like you able to tell us about barfing you guts out at least.

I hope this works out for you and maybe we'll all benefit once Lyle publishes.

The_Chicken_Daddy
10-30-2002, 05:57 PM
I take it this is a fat-loss diet plan then, since this is Lyle.

Has he mentioned when the book will be available and whether it'll be another e-book (which i quite detest) ??

Blood&Iron
10-30-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
Congrats on the opportunity. I shall miss the content unless you really are going to submit other non-related tibbits of information. Sounds like you able to tell us about barfing you guts out at least.

Thanks.

Hopefully there will be no more barfing. I'll still working out how much I can reveal without giving things away. I don't think I'll be able to say much, unfortunately. But there should be enough to keep people entertained--I hope so, anyways.



I hope this works out for you and maybe we'll all benefit once Lyle publishes.
So do I. It'll be interesting to see how things turn out

Blood&Iron
10-30-2002, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
I take it this is a fat-loss diet plan then, since this is Lyle.

Yes, of course. I'm still dieting.



Has he mentioned when the book will be available and whether it'll be another e-book (which i quite detest) ??
Nope. He just sent me an email which detailed what I am to do, and which appeared to be an excerpt from the book. I haven't asked him when the book might be coming out or in what format.

The_Chicken_Daddy
10-30-2002, 06:07 PM
Start a new thread.

This ain't gonna be 'absolute dedication' in the way you had it before.

May as well call it the "general comments journal" :)

Blood&Iron
10-30-2002, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Start a new thread.

This ain't gonna be 'absolute dedication' in the way you had it before.

May as well call it the "general comments journal" :)
Yes, mein Fuhrer. Happy?

rookiebldr
10-30-2002, 06:16 PM
oh, it must be great to be mod. Just move things around eh. ;)

Blood&Iron
10-30-2002, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
oh, it must be great to be mod. Just move things around eh. ;)
Yeah. And I can edit other people posts into requests for child porn and crack. 'Tis great fun.

rookiebldr
10-30-2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Blood&Iron

Yeah. And I can edit other people posts into requests for child porn and crack. 'Tis great fun.

Oh even better. I'll remember not to get on your bad side.

the doc
10-30-2002, 06:23 PM
lol...
you divulge less info than the bush admin.

so let us in your specific goals B&I :)

Blood&Iron
10-30-2002, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by the doc
lol...
you divulge less info than the bush admin.

so let us in your specific goals B&I :)
Yeah, my first post is a bit lacking in details. I'll be posting a bit more than this, hopefully. In any event, I'm still trying to drop weight while maintaining as much muscle as possible. I'm hoping for about 1-2lbs of fat loss every 2 weeks, with minimal loss of lbm. I've leaned up a decent bit in the last three weeks since starting 'Absolute Dedication' and hopefully will have some pics taken this next weekend for 'before' pics and so people can see what kind of progress(or lack of progress) I've made since my previous pic(which is from over a year ago.)

While it's not a physique photo, here's a photo taken last Saturday. I've always thought I possibly had higher than normal estrogen levels due to the fact I carry a disproportionate amount of fat on my legs for a man, and I think this photo confirms this. Anyways, here it is:

Maki Riddington
10-30-2002, 07:34 PM
Good god, he's been transformed into a swedish bimbo.

Blood&Iron
10-30-2002, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Maki Riddington
Good god, he's been transformed into a swedish bimbo.
Dutch, actually. Didn't you see the little hat?

rookiebldr
10-30-2002, 08:46 PM
LOL, Oh my God, it's my wife with larger calves! I thought I told her to burn the hat. Now I know where it went.

Blood&Iron
10-30-2002, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
LOL, Oh my God, it's my wife with larger calves! I thought I told her to burn the hat. Now I know where it went.
Damn. You must have a hot wife if she looks like me, cuz I'm a fine piece of ass.

Actually, I bought the hat. And the wig. The rest of the costume was rental(which the store had to piece together from odds and ends since none of the women's costumes were big enough)

Blood&Iron
10-31-2002, 08:36 AM
I've been severely underwhelmed by the response to my first new picture in over 7 months. Perhaps, I will not bother having any progress photos taken. So there.

I think I'm damn sexy, no matter what anyone else thinks. Pfft!

Paul Stagg
10-31-2002, 08:47 AM
Interesting.

Big fella in a dress.

Just what I needed this morning, thanks.

Good luck with what Lyle is doing. If anything, it will be well researched... I doubt he'll steer you wrong.

ElPietro
10-31-2002, 08:47 AM
Happy Halloween...little girl. *waves candy*

Blood&Iron
10-31-2002, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by ElPietro
Happy Halloween...little girl. *waves candy*
For some reason, I find your response extremely disturbing.

Blood&Iron
10-31-2002, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Paul Stagg
Interesting.

Big fella in a dress.

Just what I needed this morning, thanks.

I aim to please!



Good luck with what Lyle is doing. If anything, it will be well researched... I doubt he'll steer you wrong.
Thanks. I already feel a bit leaner so I'm very optimistic about the whole thing.

The_Chicken_Daddy
10-31-2002, 09:12 AM
Your calves look fcuking impressive, man.

Blood&Iron
10-31-2002, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Your calves look fcuking impressive, man.
Danke schön.

But the more important question is: how are my breasts?

The_Chicken_Daddy
10-31-2002, 09:24 AM
Hard to tell. You'll have to post some more photos.

Your neck looks thick too, though.

chris mason
10-31-2002, 09:35 AM
Nice calves!

All I have to say about the diet is that if you are taking something which causes nausea etc., I don't think that is a wise plan. In other words, if you are ok with sacrificing your body to look good, there are more proven pharmaceuticals to do the trick (I am not condoning that, just making a point). In summary, I am just concerned about you being a guinnea pig.

The_Chicken_Daddy
10-31-2002, 09:41 AM
Is this just strange food manipulation techniques, Zac? Or has he got you on some sort of drug rotation too?

Erbas
10-31-2002, 10:28 AM
haha...nice pic....looks like you got it worse than me...my girlfriend had me dressed up like a Cave Pimp....and she's my Cave Ho!

It's great that you get to try someting Lyle has put together....very impressive...and lets hope your results are impressive as well. I must admit I'm jealous. Maybe I'll have to hunt him down and beg to participate when I'm in Austin next week.

Sorry to hear about your barf session the other day...might be just a "need time to adjust to dosages" thing. Perhaps you can do fine with lower dosages and don't have to go to 5 mg. Hope that doesn't happen again.

Sorry to hear you can't comment much but it is understandable. At least we can still commiserate about the bromo. I've upped my dosage to 5 mg today...feeling a little different and I do have a slightly stuffy nose....other than that all is well, nothing too discomforting. My appetite has gone down proportionately with the increase in dosage...which is good.

Guess I can carry on the HST/Bromo cutting combination experiment.

Anyways, good luck with your new plan. Lyle certainly picked a well qualified and motivated subject to test his theory.

Blood&Iron
10-31-2002, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Is this just strange food manipulation techniques, Zac? Or has he got you on some sort of drug rotation too?
No, it's just a diet/training regimen. It has nothing to do with drugs.

MonStar
10-31-2002, 10:38 AM
Good luck B&I, I doubt youll need it though. Lyle definitely knows his sh*t, I am sure youll get great gains with his training/diet recommendations.

The_Chicken_Daddy
10-31-2002, 10:38 AM
I remember seeing Lyle say something on MFW about a high GI diet possibly being better for fat loss for various reasons but he couldn't find a guinea pig for it. This has nothing to do with that, does it?

Blood&Iron
10-31-2002, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by chris mason
Nice calves!

Thanks.



All I have to say about the diet is that if you are taking something which causes nausea etc., I don't think that is a wise plan. In other words, if you are ok with sacrificing your body to look good, there are more proven pharmaceuticals to do the trick (I am not condoning that, just making a point). In summary, I am just concerned about you being a guinnea pig.
You're right. If I continue to feel crappy, I'll stop the bromo as I think, no matter what benefits it might confer, it's simply not worth it. It may simply be incompatible with my current approach. Like you, I value my health above looking good and I am generally quite circumspect in what I choose to use and how I use it. In looking at the data Lyle presented in his book, and a bit of investigating on my own I'm thoroughly convinced bromocriptine is safe both in the short and long term. It's about 30 years old and has an incredible amount of research behind it(Something like 3,000 studies) The sides are generally minor and well tolerated. Mostly they're just annoying. Since my diet is somewhat lower in carbs, though, and bromo increases insulin sensitivity and glucose uptake, the main risk is that of hypoglycemia. If I have anything like that occur again, I'm done with the stuff(At least in conjunction with my current diet.)

Blood&Iron
10-31-2002, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by MonStar
Good luck B&I, I doubt youll need it though. Lyle definitely knows his sh*t, I am sure youll get great gains with his training/diet recommendations.
I hope not. :D I'm dieting! I suppose it's possible that with this approach I could add a bit of muscle, but I still think it unlikely.

Thanks.

Blood&Iron
10-31-2002, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
I remember seeing Lyle say something on MFW about a high GI diet possibly being better for fat loss for various reasons but he couldn't find a guinea pig for it. This has nothing to do with that, does it?
Nope.

The_Chicken_Daddy
10-31-2002, 10:56 AM
Ever since his explanation of the fat balance in the second part of his interview, i've always wondered what a cyclical fat diet would be like. Just jumping between fat and carb days, providing a calorie deficit.

I might make myself a guinea pig next cut.

Blood&Iron
10-31-2002, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Erbas
haha...nice pic....looks like you got it worse than me...my girlfriend had me dressed up like a Cave Pimp....and she's my Cave Ho!

It's great that you get to try someting Lyle has put together....very impressive...and lets hope your results are impressive as well. I must admit I'm jealous. Maybe I'll have to hunt him down and beg to participate when I'm in Austin next week.

Sorry to hear about your barf session the other day...might be just a "need time to adjust to dosages" thing. Perhaps you can do fine with lower dosages and don't have to go to 5 mg. Hope that doesn't happen again.

Me too.



Sorry to hear you can't comment much but it is understandable. At least we can still commiserate about the bromo. I've upped my dosage to 5 mg today...feeling a little different and I do have a slightly stuffy nose....other than that all is well, nothing too discomforting. My appetite has gone down proportionately with the increase in dosage...which is good.

I think I may simply be more sensitive to the stuff. As I get both sides and appetite suppression at only 1.25mg. I may just stay at a very low dose, as there's really no point in upping it unless absolutely necessary.



Guess I can carry on the HST/Bromo cutting combination experiment.

Anyways, good luck with your new plan. Lyle certainly picked a well qualified and motivated subject to test his theory.
I don't really think he's using me to test it--he didn't make any demands in terms of reporting back to him. He said he's had a few other try the program(including himself) and it's worked wonderfully. I think he shared it with me more out of kindness, and the fact that from some of my previous experiences with dieting suggsted it might be a good fit with my physiology.

galileo
10-31-2002, 11:31 AM
<-- jealous.

Marcel
10-31-2002, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

Yeah, my first post is a bit lacking in details. I'll be posting a bit more than this, hopefully. In any event, I'm still trying to drop weight while maintaining as much muscle as possible. I'm hoping for about 1-2lbs of fat loss every 2 weeks, with minimal loss of lbm. I've leaned up a decent bit in the last three weeks since starting 'Absolute Dedication' and hopefully will have some pics taken this next weekend for 'before' pics and so people can see what kind of progress(or lack of progress) I've made since my previous pic(which is from over a year ago.)

While it's not a physique photo, here's a photo taken last Saturday. I've always thought I possibly had higher than normal estrogen levels due to the fact I carry a disproportionate amount of fat on my legs for a man, and I think this photo confirms this. Anyways, here it is:

ROFLMAO!

Now you see what doing a couple cycles of HST did to ya! :eek:

Keep up the good work ma ...... errrrrrrr... ya. :D

Erbas
11-01-2002, 09:33 AM
With this new diet/workout can you tell us a couple of things? Such as:
What is this new plan suposed to acheive? If you're cutting, do you expect faster results, with regards to fat loss and muscle maintenance, than what you have tried in the past? Or perhaps put on muscle while losing fat? Or maybe essentially kill fat cells?....something Lyle eluded to in Bromocriptine.

Not looking for diet/workout specifics....just a little synopsis of expectations and estimated improvements on results from current diet/training theories.

Erbas
11-01-2002, 09:50 AM
uh...duh....alluded.....not eluded.....wish I could figure out how to edit this stuff after sending it

Blood&Iron
11-01-2002, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Erbas
uh...duh....alluded.....not eluded.....wish I could figure out how to edit this stuff after sending it
I noticed that. It's tough when there's no spell check.

Just hit 'edit'--it's right next to quote. I do it all the time when I notice spelling errors or poor logic. I can't f*cking stand making spelling and grammar mistakes--or factual ones. That's the beauty of site's like this. Reality is fluid and ever changing.

galileo
11-01-2002, 11:58 AM
HST = Hot, Sexy, and Tempting.

Blood&Iron
11-01-2002, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Erbas
With this new diet/workout can you tell us a couple of things? Such as:
What is this new plan suposed to acheive? If you're cutting, do you expect faster results, with regards to fat loss and muscle maintenance, than what you have tried in the past? Or perhaps put on muscle while losing fat? Or maybe essentially kill fat cells?....something Lyle eluded to in Bromocriptine.

Not looking for diet/workout specifics....just a little synopsis of expectations and estimated improvements on results from current diet/training theories.
Basically, the thing Lyle sent me--which I assume is an excerpt from his upcoming book--only tackles the implementation details of the diet, not the biochemistry/physiology underlying it. I don't think I'm giving too much away in stating that it's quite similar BodyOpus and some of Duchaine's other stuff(Though, it is not necessarily a keto diet) It does not break completely with these previous plans; it merely improves on them in an iterative fashion. I would assume his recommendations are more firmly grounded in science and experience than his previous ones. There are some additional changes as well, I won't divulge here. From the plan, I would assume it might allow one to *possibly* add muscle while losing fat, or at the very least maximally maintain muscle and strength while dieting. I'm not sure if it will give me better results, but I think so. Lyle shared the diet with me due to the fact that my previous experience with fairly, extreme refeeds led to better fat loss(even at my relatively high bodyfat level) than having them more infrequently, which runs somewhat contrary to what one might expect(You can see my discussion of this with him in the email exchanges between him and myself that I posted in 'Absolute Dedication') The lowest bodyfat I've ever been able to achieve is about 13.5%, and that was after 5 months of dieting. I am fat-fatically-challenged. It is nearly impossible for me to loss fat without a disproportionate amount of muscle loss. In my old journal, I posted charts with my lbm and fat mass changes, and when I just dieted in the fashion that works for most I lost almost 50% muscle, which sucks dog dong. So, I have to be very careful. I think the bromo(if I end up being able to integrate it with Lyle's diet) and the diet itself should maybe allow me to hit the elusive 10% bodyfat of which I'm always dreamt.

Blood&Iron
11-01-2002, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by galileo
HST = Hot, Sexy, and Tempting.
Or as someone on another site says "HST is the dog's bollox'

I really do think everyone that's gotten poor results with HST has failed to follow through on its concept and abandon their previous beliefs. You can't go into an HST cycle with a HIT mentality. You're simply setting yourself up for failure. Too many people just can't deal with training submaximally, which is understandable. As someone who used to struggle for 15-20s while convulsing like a crack-addled epileptic just to get one final rep, and frequently finished my workouts by standing over a toilet waiting to spew, I can tell you it really takes a change in mindset to try HST and hold something back while lifting.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-01-2002, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
I don't think I'm giving too much away in stating that it's quite similar BodyOpus and some of Duchaine's other stuff(Though, it is not necessarily a keto diet)


Does this have anything to do with cycling carb and fat days?

Blood&Iron
11-01-2002, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy



Does this have anything to do with cycling carb and fat days?
You already asked this. Getting senile in your old age?

The answer is still no.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-01-2002, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

You already asked this. Getting senile in your old age?



You never answered! Getting funny eyes in your old age?

Blood&Iron
11-01-2002, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron


Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
I remember seeing Lyle say something on MFW about a high GI diet possibly being better for fat loss for various reasons but he couldn't find a guinea pig for it. This has nothing to do with that, does it?
Nope.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-01-2002, 02:39 PM
Are you nuts?

Are you crackers?

Are you a fruitcake?

Well, no you're not, that's monstar.

But a high GI diet and a carb/fat day cycling diet != the same thing, nor the same question.

Blood&Iron
11-01-2002, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Are you nuts?

Are you crackers?

Are you a fruitcake?

Well, no you're not, that's monstar.

But a high GI diet and a carb/fat day cycling diet != the same thing, nor the same question.
You're right: I'm none of those things. I'm a moron.

I seemed to have combined both your previous question and your post about carb/fat cycling into one in my sad, decrepit mind and didn't even bother re-reading the post I quoted. Duh.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-01-2002, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

You're right

Oh baby, that's one for the ol' sig methinks...:)

Blood&Iron
11-01-2002, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy


Oh baby, that's one for the ol' sig methinks...:)
Gee, there seems to have been some computer glitch that garbled things up when you put it in your sig.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-01-2002, 07:17 PM
Please.

I prefer to call it "creative control."

Accipiter
11-01-2002, 07:40 PM
wait, where are all the workouts? oh wait, this has gotten 3 pages in like 2 days...geeeeze

Blood&Iron
11-01-2002, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Accipiter
wait, where are all the workouts? oh wait, this has gotten 3 pages in like 2 days...geeeeze
Workouts?

Why the hell would I have those in my journal?

Blood&Iron
11-01-2002, 10:50 PM
Thursday November 1, 2002

Ramblings
I haven't been keeping as careful track of things this past week, since I haven't been keeping my journal. The original plan was just to keep it offline, but without others being able to see it I've really slacked. I think I'll start doing my old journal entries, and then just not posting them. I have been keeping track of things using scratch paper and stuff, and considering I don't really look back at my old entries very often it probably hasn't had any effect--other than saving me an hour or two of time a day--but I still feel like a slacker.


Exercise:

CLASSIFIED


Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
Good job.

Weight: 205lbs!

Sleep: 9 hours

Miscelleneous: My ass is sore again. No jokes, dammit.

rookiebldr
11-01-2002, 11:02 PM
LOL, Good thing you mentioned the "no jokes, dammit".

Blood&Iron
11-02-2002, 11:17 PM
Saturday November 2, 2002

Ramblings
Nope.


Exercise:

CLASSIFIED

Comments
Good workout. Only problem was that, as with my previous sessions this past week, I used too much weight on most of my exercises. I guess it was just a bit of overconfidence. Slightly annoying and on the deadlifts it meant I ended up using kinda crappy form, which pissed me off. But really, today was probably the best and more fun I've had with a workout in as long as I can remember. Fun, fun, fun.

Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
I dunno if I did a ****ty job or not. I ate out and sorta guesstimated and used a large chunk of my calories, and nearly all my fat for the day, on one meal. Not particularly pleased with that. Think, for the most part I still came in on target, though.

Weight: 205lbs

Sleep: 9 hours

Miscelleneous: NOpe.

Blood&Iron
11-05-2002, 07:36 PM
Tuesday November 5, 2002

Ramblings
Missed a few days, but since I'm not really posting anything of substance I don't think it really matters.

Exercise:

CLASSIFIED

Comments
Did legs and arms today. Sorta started feeling like I was gonna hurl part way through the leg workout. I hoped that the feeling would abate even if I continued, uninterrupted, with arms. No suck luck. Don't think it was the bromo--just the type of workouts I'm doing. .

Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
Bit low in calories--and considering that my intended calorie levels are already horribly low that's saying something. I think models eat more than I did today. But I didn't have to do any complex thinking or anything, so the hunger wasn't too distracting. The bromo and Leptigen helped, too, insofar as though I was hungry, I didn't care that much if I ate or not(At least for awhile) I did eat a steak for the first time in a good year. I have an paranoid feer of CJD--though, for some reason, I don't seem to have a problem with beef jerky. The steak was pretty decent. I was just so f*cking sick of chicken breasts, I couldn't stand the thought of another one.

Weight: ???

Sleep: 7.5 hours

Miscelleneous: Bleh.

Alex.V
11-05-2002, 07:39 PM
I bet the classified part is just your way of saying you're tired of typing sh*te out. :D

Blood&Iron
11-05-2002, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Belial
I bet the classified part is just your way of saying you're tired of typing sh*te out. :D
You missed the beginning here, didn't you?

It really is classified. I've also taken to wearing a tuxedo and introducing myself to people as Mr. X; it actually has nothing to do with the diet, I just figured it'd add some excitement to my life.

Alex.V
11-05-2002, 07:56 PM
No, I got the beginning. I was making a feeble attempt at humor. Just because it's tough being able to fit an entire journal entry of yours on one screen. :(

Blood&Iron
11-07-2002, 11:53 PM
Thursday November 7, 2002

Ramblings
p. 190, December issue of Flex.

Although I've known for some time that Lyle McDonald is a member of 'Team Flex' everytime I see one of his blurbs in the magazine, I laugh my ass off.

Exercise:

CLASSIFIED

Comments
Pretty decent workout.

Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
MMM...Count Chocula....

Weight: 205lbs--Uh oh, it seems to be going up. That's not right. Must be muscle.

Sleep: 9 hours

Miscelleneous: Bleh.

Franjipani
11-08-2002, 01:31 AM
Hello there,

How long are you on this programme for?? Are you able to divulge the "classified" bits when you are done???

I'm getting quite concerned that a number of people on this site are throwing up all the time:(.

Good luck anyway:)

rookiebldr
11-08-2002, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron Weight: 205lbs--Uh oh, it seems to be going up. That's not right. Must be muscle.


:( Now I'm really, really jealous.

btw, how did the job hunting go. Your earlier post seemed to indicate some interesting possiblities.

Blood&Iron
11-08-2002, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Franjipani
Hello there,

How long are you on this programme for?? Are you able to divulge the "classified" bits when you are done???

I'm sure once Lyle's book comes out, I can talk about it. But who knows when that'll be.



I'm getting quite concerned that a number of people on this site are throwing up all the time:(.

'Twas only once. Nor was it on purpose. I don't intend to make a habit of it. Goes with the territory; I used to feel like vomiting after every workout--and this was when I didn't even use supplements.



Good luck anyway:)
Thanks.

Blood&Iron
11-08-2002, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by rookiebldr


:( Now I'm really, really jealous.

Don't be. I still dunno what the extra weight is.



btw, how did the job hunting go. Your earlier post seemed to indicate some interesting possiblities.
Crappily. There's one company that does advanced AI routines for computer controlled planes/vehicles in military combat simulators, with whom I might interview. But that won't be for another couple months. Since they're government-contracted they have to wait to get funding before considering any new hires--which may not be till (at the latest) next March. At least it'll give me time to review. I haven't been programming at all since graduating, so I've forgotten everything and besides, I dunno if I'm smart/knowledgeable enough for the position either (Not insulting myself here; most of the people at this place have PhDs)

The Calvinator
11-08-2002, 04:18 PM
wow............................ nothing

Blood&Iron
11-08-2002, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by The Calvinator
wow............................ nothing
Huh?

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-12-2002, 08:01 AM
Looks like your head has been stuck on afterwards. And your neck looks well small there considering the size of you!

I'm disappointed man - where are the pig-tails? ;)

Looking large. I can't remember your previous pics though. I'm quite impressed.

I'd have prefered the dress though...

Blood&Iron
11-12-2002, 08:03 AM
Here's one of a several pictures I had taken of myself yesterday It's been a little over a year since I had the previous ones taken(one of which is on page 7 or so of my old journal 'Hell, why not?') I look about the same with slight improvement in the size of my arms and shoulders. While my posing was similarly inept as last time, the lighting was actually a bit worse, and I have even less of a tan than in my previous shots, so it throws the comparison off a bit. I'm actually using this as more of a 'before' shot than an 'after' one. Otherwise, I'd have to shoot myself in the head.

Prepare to be underwhelmed:

WillKuenzel
11-12-2002, 08:06 AM
*edit: wow that's weird your post was above TCD's. anyway, nice looking shot, definitely got some good size on ya.

hope lyle can help with where you're wanting to go

Blood&Iron
11-12-2002, 08:10 AM
I guess that means you can see it. It wasn't displaying when I clicked on the link, so I deleted and reposted, which sorta makes you look psychic.


Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Looks like your head has been stuck on afterwards. And your neck looks well small there considering the size of you!

I prefer to not have the bull-neck look. I always thought it looked kinda goofy. My neck is a good 17'', though.



I'm disappointed man - where are the pig-tails? ;)

Let's leave your perversions out of this.



Looking large. I can't remember your previous pics though. I'm quite impressed.

I'd have prefered the dress though...

Thanks. Although I'm not particularly happy with how the pic looks, I knew the pics would turn out something like this. As everyone who posts stuff like this, I think I look a bit better/leaner in real life, than this pic makes me appear. I should've used some spray on tanning stuff and pumped up or something.

Here's the old pic:

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-12-2002, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
As everyone who posts stuff like this, I think I look a bit better/leaner in real life, than this pic makes me appear.

I do actually know what you mean.

I think it's because most people use a crappy normal camera. If they had a good zoom-lens one that made good pictures it would be much better.

rookiebldr
11-12-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy


I think it's because most people use a crappy normal camera. If they had a good zoom-lens one that made good pictures it would be much better.

lol. Oh I've got to get myself a camera that makes me look good and adds 30lbs of lbm.

B&I, Even though the poses are somewhat different which makes some of the comparisons difficult, I do think there is quite of bit more definition now then there was before. It looks like the body fat is definitely lower - less fat in the chest, shoulder, leg area. Definitely added size - forearms and arms look bigger and the chest is much better. Not sure about the shoulders since as you said the lighting is bad and I don't think it bring out the definition there as much.


btw, what is with the girlie hats and broom. tuttut Not manly enough, you need some swords and shields hanging there.

Blood&Iron
11-12-2002, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr


lol. Oh I've got to get myself a camera that makes me look good and adds 30lbs of lbm.

B&I, Even though the poses are somewhat different which makes some of the comparisons difficult, I do think there is quite of bit more definition now then there was before. It looks like the body fat is definitely lower - less fat in the chest, shoulder, leg area. Definitely added size - forearms and arms look bigger and the chest is much better. Not sure about the shoulders since as you said the lighting is bad and I don't think it bring out the definition there as much.

Thanks. You don't know how nice it is to hear that. In some of the pics the changes are more noticeable, but they make me look crappier overall so I didn't feel like posting them(Even I have my limits) I was actually thinking today of taking some more pics in the next week or two with some self-tanner and slightly pumped up, along with better lighting. I really don't think this picture does me justice. I think a bit of shadows/contrast and a tan would make things look 100% better. Of course, this is the 'before' so maybe I WANT a crappy pictures, e.g. EAS Body-for-life, so my 'after' one looks better.




btw, what is with the girlie hats and broom. tuttut Not manly enough, you need some swords and shields hanging there. [/b]
I had my step-father take the pic since he has a digital camera, and so the pic was taken in my parents' bedroom. That stuff is my mom's.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-12-2002, 06:03 PM
Did you feel like a total prat posing infront of the camera?

I did.

Blood&Iron
11-12-2002, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Did you feel like a total prat posing infront of the camera?

I did.
Yes, a complete homo--and fat. Hence the fact it's been over a year since the last time I had some taken.

Blood&Iron
11-12-2002, 10:07 PM
Tuesday November 12, 2002

Ramblings
A day late, but I thought this--from my favorite book of all-time-- apropos...


Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut, 1973
So this book is a sidewalk strewn with junk, trash which I throw over my shoulders as I travel in time to November eleventh, nineteen hundred and twenty-two.

I will come to a time in my backwards trip when November eleventh, accidentally my birthday, was a sacred day called Armistice Day. When I was a boy, all the people of all the nations which had fought in the First World War were silent during the eleventh minute of the eleventh hour of Armistice Day, which was the eleventh day of the eleventh month.

It was during that minute in nineteen hundred and eighteen, that millions upon millions of human beings stopped butchering one and another. I have talked to old men who were on battlefields during that minute. They have told me in one way or another that the sudden silence was the voice of God. So we still have among us some men who can remember when God spoke clearly to mankind.

Armistice Day has become Veterans' Day. Armistice Day was sacred. Veterans' day is not.

So I will throw Veterans' Day over my shoulder. Armistice Day I will keep. I don't want to throw away any sacred things.

What else is sacred? Oh, Romeo and Juliet, for instance.

And all music is.



Happy Birthday Kurt! Glad your suicide attempt didn't work out. Just write another goddamn book already.


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Pretty much on target

Weight: ???

Sleep: 9 hours

Miscelleneous: Bleh.

=w=
11-14-2002, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
Here's one of a several pictures I had taken of myself yesterday It's been a little over a year since I had the previous ones taken(one of which is on page 7 or so of my old journal 'Hell, why not?') I look about the same with slight improvement in the size of my arms and shoulders. While my posing was similarly inept as last time, the lighting was actually a bit worse, and I have even less of a tan than in my previous shots, so it throws the comparison off a bit. I'm actually using this as more of a 'before' shot than an 'after' one. Otherwise, I'd have to shoot myself in the head.

Prepare to be underwhelmed:

Noticeable improvement from your last shots (particularly in the leanness of your face). Can't wait to see the after shots, hopefully the "top-secret/ confidential/hush-hush/off the record/classified/restricted” program of Lyle’s works out for you.

ectx
11-14-2002, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
Tuesday November 12, 2002
Happy Birthday Kurt! Glad your suicide attempt didn't work out. Just write another goddamn book already.

Amen.

galileo
11-14-2002, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Did you feel like a total prat posing infront of the camera?

I did.

I got my girlfriend to take me some before pictures back in July when I decided to start back. She was taking her time with it and I found myself yelling "Come on already!" repeatedly. It wasn't exactly a "pose" I was doing either, but it's a degrading feeling.

BennettBoy
11-14-2002, 12:10 PM
How much weight are you wanting to lose? And what is your bf % at now? How old are you and where do you live LOL? Is all that classified too? :)

Sorry about all the questions, but this is the first time I checked out your journal. I got lost in the other one with all those details LOL.

Blood&Iron
11-14-2002, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by =w=


Noticeable improvement from your last shots (particularly in the leanness of your face). Can't wait to see the after shots, hopefully the "top-secret/ confidential/hush-hush/off the record/classified/restricted” program of Lyle’s works out for you.
Thanks.

I'm definitely leaner, and about 5lbs heavier(Last pic I was at 205lbs, this one around 210) so that's cool. My face probably looks leaner because I didn't face the camera. I look so goddamn goofy in the first pic(my head looks like an ice-cube) that my facial expression almost became my primary concern.

What have you been up to anyway? I've seen like 3 posts from you(on all boards combined) over the last 4 months.

Blood&Iron
11-14-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by BennettBoy
How much weight are you wanting to lose? And what is your bf % at now? How old are you and where do you live LOL? Is all that classified too? :)

Sorry about all the questions, but this is the first time I checked out your journal. I got lost in the other one with all those details LOL.
Yeah, this one is a bit less detailed. At least activity picked up a bit this morning.

I'm 24 and live in Michigan.

Anyways, I'd like to hit about 10% bodyfat. How much weight that will entail losing, I'm not sure. Currently, I'm about 207-210lbs(it fluctuates) at 5'11'' and when I had my bodyfat tested about 3 weeks ago it was 17%. Dunno how accurate that test was, but unfortunately it's probably not too far off the mark. I *might* have dropped 1% or so since then.

=w=
11-16-2002, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron


What have you been up to anyway? I've seen like 3 posts from you(on all boards combined) over the last 4 months.

Yeah, I have pretty much just been enjoying my last semester of college before graduating. Lightened up on the diet (has not affected me, kinda makes me wish I had done that a long time ago), been partying a lot (has not affected me since I have been at it for a while), for the past 2 and a half weeks I have been on the routine zeppelin outlined in yesterdays M&M (really like it, it is good fun). I'm still sitting around the same weight 170 with single digit BF, I have for the most part just been looking to maintain while enjoying myself as much as I can. I have also added in a good deal of cardio (I'd say 20-30 minutes 4-5 days a week) and will continue this. I attribute my ability to stay lean while gaining strength with a looser diet (not bad by any stretch just not so strict as it was) to the cardio. I have been lurking this whole time and am going to start beign more active on the boards again. By the way, you know I am jealous as hell you are on Lyle's top secret plan ;), he helped me with some cardio/diet questions over the summer and was VERY helpful.

Blood&Iron
11-16-2002, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by =w=


Yeah, I have pretty much just been enjoying my last semester of college before graduating. Lightened up on the diet (has not affected me, kinda makes me wish I had done that a long time ago), been partying a lot (has not affected me since I have been at it for a while), for the past 2 and a half weeks I have been on the routine zeppelin outlined in yesterdays M&M (really like it, it is good fun). I'm still sitting around the same weight 170 with single digit BF, I have for the most part just been looking to maintain while enjoying myself as much as I can. I have also added in a good deal of cardio (I'd say 20-30 minutes 4-5 days a week) and will continue this. I attribute my ability to stay lean while gaining strength with a looser diet (not bad by any stretch just not so strict as it was) to the cardio. I have been lurking this whole time and am going to start beign more active on the boards again.

Sounds good. Yeah, sometimes it's nice to just relax about this stuff. I didn't enjoy any of my time at university because I was just so overwhelmed with work all the time--probably why I've been completely f*cking off since graduating. Anyways, it's amazing you can stay that lean while not worrying too much about things. I hovered around 19-20% bodyfat when I didn't worry about diet too much and trained hard. I'm sure getting there is harder than maintaining, and of course genetics play a big role. I can put on weight more easily than many. I just wish it wasn't so f*cking impossible to lose fat for me.



By the way, you know I am jealous as hell you are on Lyle's top secret plan ;), he helped me with some cardio/diet questions over the summer and was VERY helpful.
I'm probably f*cking it all up. It's pretty goddamn complicated--it's sorta like three different diets and routines at once. I haven't been dropping appreciable weight, and I'm thinking it's because I'm overdoing the maintenance/hypercaloric days. But oddly enough, I am starting to look leaner even at the same weight. I'll need another couple weeks to really get things down I think. And maybe barrage Lyle with some questions(I haven't bothered him since starting the program).

Budiak
11-16-2002, 08:46 AM
I saw some photospeak up in this bitch and had to chime in about it-

First off, dude, you look great. I'd love to be as fat as you, you dirty slug.

Second, you dont need a zoom lens to take good pictures, just a clean lens and good film. This means NOT a disposable. If you've got an SLR, get a 50mm portrait lens. Dont get too close or it'll flatten you out.


BTW, if you didnt already know, if you make that picture black and white and mess with the contrast, you CAN make yourself look much better. The reason Brad Pitt looked so good in Fight club is because of two words. Jeff Cronenweth.

Blood&Iron
11-16-2002, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Budiak
I saw some photospeak up in this bitch and had to chime in about it-

First off, dude, you look great. I'd love to be as fat as you, you dirty slug.

Thanks...I think(Not so sure about the slug part, there)



Second, you dont need a zoom lens to take good pictures, just a clean lens and good film. This means NOT a disposable. If you've got an SLR, get a 50mm portrait lens. Dont get too close or it'll flatten you out.


BTW, if you didnt already know, if you make that picture black and white and mess with the contrast, you CAN make yourself look much better. The reason Brad Pitt looked so good in Fight club is because of two words. Jeff Cronenweth.
Didn't he do Bladerunner, too? Or am I misremembering?

Anyways, I'll have to keep that stuff in mind. I'll see if I can't instruct someone in the fine art of "Making B&I look swole" before I have my next pictures taken.

Budiak
11-16-2002, 09:40 AM
You are dismembering. He did Se7en, The Game, Whats Eating Gilbert Grape.

Blade Runner was done by his father, Jordan Cronenweth. Their styles are similar, and they're related(though Jordan died in 1996, God rest his soul), so I see where the confusion lay. I will have the confusion removed. By slitting.

chris mason
11-16-2002, 10:23 AM
I think you definitely look leaner in your most recent picture. You also look more muscular.

Blood&Iron
11-18-2002, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by chris mason
I think you definitely look leaner in your most recent picture. You also look more muscular.
Thank you.

On a unrelated note, recently, I took a look back at a few of the the threads in which we've butted heads. To be honest, I still think you were an asshole at times. I realize now, however, that I was as big, if not a bigger one, myself. In any event, I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize for any of my posts which were inappropriate or that angered you. I hope we can leave whatever enmity that may remain in the past. Whatever slights I've perceived (whether real or imagined) have been forgiven and forgotten. I hope you can do the same--although it seems as though you may already have, in which case: thank you

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-18-2002, 05:40 PM
Hahaha. Chris says some warming words and B&I just melts.

Awww...

Blood&Iron
11-18-2002, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Hahaha. Chris says some warming words and B&I just melts.

Awww...
I know you're joking, but I have to reiterate the compliment, while nice, actually had nothing to do with my apology. Like I said, I'd been looking over some old posts and realized there were some times when I'd been even more of an asshole than I'd realized at the time. A compliment would have not lead to the above if I was pissed. I'm a much less forgiving person than that.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-18-2002, 06:18 PM
You realise he's a married man, yes?

Blood&Iron
11-18-2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
You realise he's a married man, yes?
Man, usually you're so funny. You depressed or something? I'm here for you man.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-18-2002, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
I'm here for you man.

I see.

No luck with Chris so you move onto me...

Easy Tiger.

chris mason
11-18-2002, 07:35 PM
Kind words, I appreciate that. I pretty much call them as I see them. In other words, if I disagree, I will say so. When it comes to pictures being posted I always say something nice, or nothing at all. If I notice the picture and think it looks bad, I will just not comment, but if I see something good, I think I should say something. Too many people in this world only focus on negative reinforcement. To be honest, your style of writing in your journal always made me feel like you had unfounded arrogance, it irked me. I am sure I mentioned that at least once. Now, I realize that writing style is just that, your writing style, and it is not necessarily indicative of you as a whole. I still disagree with some things, as is to be expected. I never wanted anything but the best for you. Now, don't read too much into that statement, what I mean is that I wish the best for everyone, really. I know I sometimes may seem overly critical, that is due to a personality glitch I have where I like everything to be "right", which is to say that I want everything to be "right" as I see it. You see, the vast majority of the time when I make a suggestion, or comment, it is because I am trying to help the recipient of the comment. If I think they have a misperception etc., I try to clarify it. Of course, I am not always right, but I always think I am right.

Anyway, I really hope you reach your goals, and I appreciate what you said.

Blood&Iron
11-18-2002, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by chris mason

To be honest, your style of writing in your journal always made me feel like you had unfounded arrogance, it irked me. I am sure I mentioned that at least once. Now, I realize that writing style is just that, your writing style, and it is not necessarily indicative of you as a whole.

You were right, though--at least to a degree. I can be arrogant and smug, and that is occasionally (or more than occasionally) reflected in my writing. I tend also to use formal language, excessive punctuation and unnecessarily large words, which also smack to many of bombast. I think I can also come off that way, due to the strong conviction I generally have in my opinions. I, like you, tend to think I'm alwaysright. Except I'm often not. Funnily enough, I think the reason we've had problems is that we have similar personalties; most of the others with whom I've had problems on WBB, and in life in general, also have similar personalities. I've always said that if I had some perfect clone of myself running around, he'd probably piss me off more than any other person on the planet.



Anyway, I really hope you reach your goals, and I appreciate what you said.
And I appreciate your post. Thank you.

Blood&Iron
11-18-2002, 11:19 PM
Tuesday November 12, 2002

Ramblings

Adolph Hitler, 'Mein Kampf'
The larger the mass of men to be reached, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be set.



Most of the shows on television are absolute and complete crap. They deal with uninteresting people, are crappily acted, and have absolute no dramatic value. Whenever I see 'Friends' or 'Touched by an Angel' come on my TV I start gagging and going into convulsions. Hitler would be proud of the current crop of television and film executives. They churn out show after show catering to the lowest possible intellectual level so as to reach the broadest possible market share. Even critically acclaimed shows rarely offer anything new or interesting. Sure, 'Law and Order' and 'The West Wing' are decent enough. But is there anything truly original or challenging there? No. When a writer or producer does dare to offer up something of substance, something that stands above and beyond the average drivel, it's announced with little fanfare, slipped into a slot at 8 o'clock Friday night, and allowed to pass, unnoticed into oblivion. 'What the hell is B&I ranting about?', you might be thinking. One word: 'Firefly' It's one of the new show on Fox. It's the brain-child of Joss Whedon, the creator of Buffy the Vampie Slayer(While not a rabid fan of that show, I certainly enjoy it.) I think 'Firefly' has a thousand times as much potential as Buffy, though. The writing is great, the actors are phenomenal, and the direction has stellar as well. It is challenging, dramatic, and entertaining. There are more laughs in the 6 or so episodes of 'Firefly' that have aired, than in the entiriety of most comedies' full seasons. It's is a truely great show. It's also probably going to be cancelled this week. And I'm going to be left with being forced to watch the apotheosis of mediocrity 'Star Trek' and listening to some techno-babble drivel about phase inducers and warp fields to get my sci-fi fix. Maybe I should just shoot myself now.

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Pretty good workout. I've been using IN-rage (an intranasal prohormone, oops I mean 'intra-oral', as intra-nasal would be illegal *cough*) from Avant Labs prior to my last few sessions. I dearly miss my ephedrine, which I can't use while using bromocriptine, and was hoping this would be similarly effective. It does seem to help a bit with focus, but disappointingly it doesn't produce anything like an ephedrine buzz, which I really love.

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Bit low in calories.

Weight: ???

Sleep: 9 hours

Miscelleneous: Bleh. [/B][/QUOTE]

WillKuenzel
11-18-2002, 11:41 PM
lmao at 'touched by an angel'

I've never understood that show but then again I've never been able to sit through an entire one to learn.

I've heard nothing but good things about firefly. I really wish I could watch it but alas it's on while I'm at work.

Agreed about the ephedrine buzz. Nothing quite like it.

Blood&Iron
11-19-2002, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by HomeYield
lmao at 'touched by an angel'

I've never understood that show but then again I've never been able to sit through an entire one to learn.

I've heard nothing but good things about firefly. I really wish I could watch it but alas it's on while I'm at work.

Agreed about the ephedrine buzz. Nothing quite like it.

I just realized your avatar is the Corrosion of Conformity skull. Cool band. At least they were. Last album I bought by them was 'Blind' and that was 10 years ago. Also have 'Technocracy' which has a cool song or two on it, though it's not really even the same band except in name. I seem to recall they were getting away from thrash, and were more straight ahead rock and that's why I didn't buy their next album after 'Blind'

Few weeks back on a election day I was listening to 'Vote with a Bullet' on the way to the polls. Hah.

Tape 'Firefly' or TiVo it, or whatever. It really is a cool show. It was picked up for 2 more episodes yesterday which is sorta good news--though FOX could've at least picked up it for the rest of the season. Bastards. They just need to change the goddamn time-slot.

MonStar
11-19-2002, 07:11 PM
I am curious B&I, not to offend at all, but why keep a journal if youre basically leaving all of the details of your training / diet etc. out of it?

Blood&Iron
11-19-2002, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by MonStar
I am curious B&I, not to offend at all, but why keep a journal if youre basically leaving all of the details of your training / diet etc. out of it?
Because I feel like it.

MonStar
11-19-2002, 08:47 PM
Aight man, just wondering. :):)

=w=
11-21-2002, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

Sounds good. Yeah, sometimes it's nice to just relax about this stuff. I didn't enjoy any of my time at university because I was just so overwhelmed with work all the time--probably why I've been completely f*cking off since graduating. Anyways, it's amazing you can stay that lean while not worrying too much about things. I hovered around 19-20% bodyfat when I didn't worry about diet too much and trained hard. I'm sure getting there is harder than maintaining, and of course genetics play a big role. I can put on weight more easily than many. I just wish it wasn't so f*cking impossible to lose fat for me.



Yeah, I never knew I could do this. I used to be a FAT kid. Now I have been hitting cardio HARD post workout and relaxing when I want. For example I am writing this pretty drunk and after eating an extra large pizza (the whole thing). I feel I always sold myself short. I paid too much attention to science, and what may have been "proven". Because of that I always made my self feel I couldn’t accomplish what I wanted. Since I started to relax (dietary) and workout hard (what I used to believe was over training) I have been very happy. Perhaps I may be gifted genetically (unlikely, you should have seen me in the past) but I never would have known that if I had not experimented. The most important thing is to push yourself, find out your limits and hit it. It is much easier than when I used to kill myself with macro ratios.

WillKuenzel
11-21-2002, 02:28 AM
CoC is awesome. I haven't heard some of their older stuff. I've heard from Deliverance onward. I'll have to check out some of their older stuff. Check out "Drowning in a Daydream". That's one of my favorite songs from them. The last album wasn't as good as the 2 before it.

I'll just have to figure out how to program the VCR and tape Firefly. I'm kind of missing TV.

Marcel
11-22-2002, 02:19 AM
:strong:

Blood&Iron
12-01-2002, 04:59 PM
Sunday December 1, 2002

Ramblings
Haven't updated this in quite some time, nor have I really been on the site that much. No real reason. I have been occupied with other stuff, but I still have plenty of free time--just haven't been all that interested in arguing about the minutia of training and dieting. Haven't really been keeping careful track of my dieting, either. Without having the online journal to maintain, I pretty much just estimate stuff. Things still work okay, but it would probably help if I was being a bit more conscientious about things. The diet from Lyle is cyclical, and I've been adhering to the dieting portion pretty rigidly (actually, probably undereating) but on the maintenance/refeed days I've been sorta winging it. I've had decent results so far, but I think my laxity on those days is holding me back a little. I did have my bf% tested and my skinfolds were down across the boards--most by about 1mm a piece--except for the subscapular one which went UP 2mm (I chalk this to human error since it's inconsistent with the other ones) Overall my bf% down about .5%--about a pound of fat--putting me at 16.5%bf, but I think I've actually gained a pound or two, which means I've put on a pound or two of muscle while simultaneously losing a lb of fat.

I had an interview with a local company that does government contracting and it seemed to go pretty well. I've been trying to review some programming stuff(OpenGl and DirectX in particular) since that would be my focus if I got the job. I have no expectation, but I'll probably hear back this next week.

Also, bought Splinter Cell for the XBox. Un-freakin believable graphics. I've never seen anything like it. Quite a fun game, too. Only downside is that the gameplay is sorta linear. I prefer more freedom in how I approach a mission, rather than being given just one way of doing things, Deus Ex for the PC being a prime example.

That's it for now.


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Bleh.

Diet:

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Comments:
Bleh.

Weight: ???

Sleep: 9 hours

Miscelleneous: Nope.

_-_v_-_
12-01-2002, 05:17 PM
Deus Ex is God.

No pun intended.

Blood&Iron
12-01-2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by _-_v_-_
Deus Ex is God.

No pun intended.
My favoritie Latin phrase:
Sic Transit Gloria Mundi

rookiebldr
12-01-2002, 09:01 PM
Nice to see you're still around and keep us informed of the job progess. Sounds pretty cool.

Marcel
12-09-2002, 04:37 PM
:cry:

Have you seen Ocean's Eleven (the movie) ?

"Where fuk you beeeeen!!!???!!!"

Blood&Iron
12-09-2002, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Marcel
:cry:

Have you seen Ocean's Eleven (the movie) ?

No, why?



"Where fuk you beeeeen!!!???!!!"
I died.

Actually, I don't see how you can be complaining seeing as how your own presence on WBB has been spotty at best, beeyeotch!

I'll probably make an update a little later this evening.

Marcel
12-09-2002, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

No, why?


Cuz if you had you would get the "where fuk you been" line.


Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
[B]
I died.

Actually, I don't see how you can be complaining seeing as how your own presence on WBB has been spotty at best, beeyeotch!

I'll probably make an update a little later this evening.

Dammit! I was thinking the same thing as I typed. Oh well.

Hey buddy atleast I'm not linking up testosterone.net articles !!!

I'm telling Lyle and Par.

:D





who's the beeyeotch now? : )

Blood&Iron
12-09-2002, 05:34 PM
Monday December 9th, 2002

Ramblings
I went off bromocriptine this past Saturday. I'd been on it for approximately 6 weeks. The highest I ever got with my dosage was 3.75mg, but as I detailed in one of my previous entries that seemed to bring about unacceptable sides. Actually, I wasn't having too many problems at 3.75mg before I switched from my own self-designed diet, which was very conservative in its approach, to Lyle's more restrictive diet. I simply think they are not ideally suited to eachother. Further, since Lyle's diet is designed to circumvent some of the same problems bromocriptine should address, I suspect it's a bit redundate to use bromo with it. I am switching back to EC and NYC and will see how things go. If I go back to my previous diet/training style(HST + slight caloric deficit) I will probably go back on bromo. For most of the time I was using bromo, I was only taking 2.5mg a day, which may in fact have been an ineffectively small dose (at least with regard to dopamine release, etc) It did seem to work very well as an appetite suppressant, and the sides at that dosage eventually largely subsided. Additionally, from my weight it seems I have been able both to lose a little over a pound or two of fat, while simultaneously adding two to three pounds of muscle. I haven't been rigorous enough in my documentation of things to say this for sure, but it certainly appears that this is the case. Whether, of course, this is due to Lyle's diet, the bromo, or both I can't say. We'll have to see how things progress now that I've switched back to EC. The main reason I went off is that I've just felt a little bored and wanted to change things up a little. Lyle's programs requires periods severe caloric restriction along with a very high-volume of training, which is not very fun (this is a gross understatement, actually. It just plain sucks ass.) In fact, I considered going back to my previous program, but the results I've acheived (while a bit disappointing in terms of overall fat loss) are is some ways superior to anything else I've ever achieved (I've never put on muscle while losing fat, and have proclaimed on innumerable occasions that it's basically impossible for anyone but a beginner.) I think my current, slip-shod approach has been (unintentionally) more weighted towards putting on muscle, rather than losing fat. Hopefully, I can adjust things so it's the other way around.


Exercise:

CLASSIFIED

Comments
Bleh.

Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
Bleh.

Weight: 210lbs

Sleep: 8.5 hours

Miscelleneous: Bleh.

Maki Riddington
12-09-2002, 05:49 PM
Noooooooo, you weigh more than me.

Marcel
12-09-2002, 05:50 PM
:birthday:

Lyle's secret plan seems perfect for you Blood.

I mean you always have been quite the patient dieter. You're losing fat and gaining some muscle naturally. That's some good sheeeeet.

Time to unleash the power of the EC and NYC ....

:D

Blood&Iron
12-09-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Maki Riddington
Noooooooo, you weigh more than me.

'Cept I'm 5'11'' and my bodyfat is probably higher.

Besides, my weight fluctuates and I just had my maintenance/refeed period. At the end of this weeks hypocaloric phase, I'll probably be around 205.

Blood&Iron
12-09-2002, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Marcel
:birthday:

Lyle's secret plan seems perfect for you Blood.

I mean you always have been quite the patient dieter. You're losing fat and gaining some muscle naturally. That's some good sheeeeet.

Time to unleash the power of the EC and NYC ....

:D
That's actually why Lyle shared it with me. Because it's along similar lines as the approach I've found works best for me.

Man, I love being back on ephedrine and yohimbine. All is right with the world.

Maki Riddington
12-09-2002, 06:13 PM
Ok, I feel better.

Blood&Iron
12-17-2002, 06:38 PM
Tuesday December 17th, 2002

Ramblings
Since I can't really keep a journal here, and I've been slacking on that front a bit, I decided to start keeping a private on over at Fitday. Actually, speeds things up a bit, but it doesn't give me nearly as much freedom in formatting things as I'd like. But, it's something.

I've been really hungry since coming off bromo, even though I'm using norephedrine and EC. It definitely works. Feel much better now, though.

That's it.

Exercise:

CLASSIFIED

Comments
My workouts have been running way too long. Today, 1hr 30min (although, I took a 10minute break between legs and arms) Then, I did 30min of cardio. Probably just end up costing me muscle. Bah.

Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
Bleh.

Weight: 205lbs

Sleep: 8.5 hours

Miscelleneous: I'm hungry.

Saturday Fever
12-17-2002, 06:55 PM
So a guy gives you a diet and a routine but doesn't want you to reveal anything about it? Is he afraid it isn't going to work? I'm sure I missed something earlier in the journal, so if I have I apologize.

Blood&Iron
12-17-2002, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Saturday Fever
So a guy gives you a diet and a routine but doesn't want you to reveal anything about it? Is he afraid it isn't going to work? I'm sure I missed something earlier in the journal, so if I have I apologize.
It's the basis for an upcoming book.

Saturday Fever
12-17-2002, 06:58 PM
Got it, that makes sense. I hope it produces the results you're looking for.

Blood&Iron
12-17-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Saturday Fever
Got it, that makes sense. I hope it produces the results you're looking for.
Thanks for the support.

rookiebldr
12-17-2002, 08:30 PM
I can't believe I missed your Dec 9th post! Great to see that the ec and norephedrine is working much better for you. I've never tried adding in the norephedrine before, so I may need to look into it. I trust you are still sticking with Lyle's program.

I still haven't done too much research on the carb up meals yet, so I'm still a little bit away from asking you some questions on it, as we previously discussed. With Christmas coming, I suspect that I will get forced to eat a bit over maintenance anyway. So I'll look into it over the holidays to start in January. Maybe I can just stay even on the weight over the next week or so.

And was that your Birthday? Well then Happy Belated Birthday, Blood&Iron if it was.

And last item of a nosey nature. Any word on the job front yet?

:)

Blood&Iron
12-17-2002, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
I can't believe I missed your Dec 9th post! Great to see that the ec and norephedrine is working much better for you. I've never tried adding in the norephedrine before, so I may need to look into it. I trust you are still sticking with Lyle's program.

Yeah, for the time being. I was sorta getting antsy to switch program, as there are number of aspects to both the training an diet that really suck (Although, there are some really nice parts, too)

Probably shouldn't bother looking into norephedrine. In the US, at least, it's no longer legal. I stocked up on norephedrine/yohimbine/caffeine pills (3 bottles of Hollywood Cuts--same thing as Adipokinetix) when I found out. It's very good as an appetite suppressant.



I still haven't done too much research on the carb up meals yet, so I'm still a little bit away from asking you some questions on it, as we previously discussed. With Christmas coming, I suspect that I will get forced to eat a bit over maintenance anyway. So I'll look into it over the holidays to start in January. Maybe I can just stay even on the weight over the next week or so.

Okay.



And was that your Birthday? Well then Happy Belated Birthday, Blood&Iron if it was.

No, I dunno why Marcel did that. Just for effect, I guess.



And last item of a nosey nature. Any word on the job front yet?

:)
No job. I'm still a bum. Got rejected by the company I interviewed with a few weeks back. No surprise really. Still looking. I have a few prospects, but I'm quite pessimistic, as always.

I was approached by the head personal trainer at my gym, and asked (as I have several times in the past) if I'd like to give personal training a shot. I'm very reticent, but in the absence of any other income, I might do so. I'm worried it'll prevent me from getting a real job, but it involves very little commitment. I'm planning on signing up for an ACE certification (worthless) as it carries a little more weight than the mail order ones, and the NSCA doesn't have a test in my area until December of next year (I don't think an NSCA-CPT certification means much either, though). At worst, I'll be out $175 plus whatever the book costs. For each client hour, I'd get $19 to start (up to $33), which isn't too bad, and I'm told by a friend who works at my gym that it's really not difficult to pull in clients (particularly with New Year's coming up). Guess we'll see what happens.

rookiebldr
12-17-2002, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
No job. I'm still a bum. Got rejected by the company I interviewed with a few weeks back. No surprise really. Still looking. I have a few prospects, but I'm quite pessimistic, as always.


Their loss.



Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
I was approached by the head personal trainer at my gym, and asked (as I have several times in the past) if I'd like to give personal training a shot. I'm very reticent, but in the absence of any other income, I might do so. I'm worried it'll prevent me from getting a real job, but it involves very little commitment. I'm planning on signing up for an ACE certification (worthless) as it carries a little more weight than the mail order ones, and the NSCA doesn't have a test in my area until December of next year (I don't think an NSCA-CPT certification means much either, though). At worst, I'll be out $175 plus whatever the book costs. For each client hour, I'd get $19 to start (up to $33), which isn't too bad, and I'm told by a friend who works at my gym that it's really not difficult to pull in clients (particularly with New Year's coming up). Guess we'll see what happens.

I can only feel for your clients who will be taught the correct form without any compromises. :) At $19 per hour (even though I know the client pays more than that) what a bargain for the client! *spoken very sincerely*

Blood&Iron
12-30-2002, 09:49 PM
Sunday December 30th, 2002

Ramblings
Took last week off, as I was feeling a bit burned out and was contemplating returning to HST with a slight caloric deficit. But decided instead to continue with Lyle's plan and try to make the necessary adjustments so that I lose fat a bit more quickly. I'm adding a bit of cardio, and gonna try to scale back my maintenance/refeed days. Also, I'm gonna try to reduce the volume (or, at the least, the duration) of my workouts as they've been running way too long (1.5-2 hours)

Exercise:

AM: chest/back
PM: Legs


Comments
Decided to change things up and do supersets of 1 set of chest, 1 set of back in the morning and reduce my rest periods. Awesome pump, and it really made my workout much more intense, and yet enjoyable

The evenign leg session sucked. My first exercise felt inordinately difficult (I suspect there was something sticking on the machine, and too much friction) I could barely stand, and once almost fell on my ass (I grabbed a machine and held myself up) Didn't feel nauseated, though. Just extreme muscular fatigue. Felt really good when I finished, though.

Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
20g (and, consequently, 180kcal) shy of my goal. Otherwise, pretty solid.

Weight: 210lbs

Sleep: 8 hours.

Miscelleneous: Nope.

rookiebldr
12-31-2002, 03:39 PM
BTW, I've spent the last few days, trying to download one episode of Firefly. I'll get one yet, but the demand seems to be huge for those episodes.

Blood&Iron
01-02-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
BTW, I've spent the last few days, trying to download one episode of Firefly. I'll get one yet, but the demand seems to be huge for those episodes.
Yeah, it's probably people who already saw them. It's bizarre, but I taped a couple of episodes and I found myself watching them repeatedly--like up to 3-4 times. They actually were best on the 2nd viewing. I'd generally miss a lot the first time through. I think that say a lot for the show. Usually, TV is too superficial for repeated viewing; only movies can stand up to that.

You might not even like the show, though. I think it takes 2-3 episodes to get used to all the eccentricities of the show (the Western/Sci-fi mix, the use of Chinese dialog/made-up words, etc) I actually wasn't blown away when I saw the first episode (well, at least until the end of it, where you think you know what's coming and the show does a 180) It was decent enough, but it wasn't until Ep 4 or 5 that I really fell in love with Firefly. Now it's f*cking canceled. I only hope UPN picks it up.

It's kinda late, but check the url in the sig.

rookiebldr
01-02-2003, 11:32 PM
I'll check out the web site a bit more. :) And since I hadn't checked anything out pre-downloading, I just picked a episode - "Shindig" It's now about 3/4 down so far and I've seen bits of it. I actually want to wait until I could see all of it at once, so that will be it until it's complete. Of the little bit that I've seen of this episode, I too noticed the Western/Sci-fi undertones. I recognized Nathan Fillion so it will be interesting to see him in this series. :cool:

Blood&Iron
01-02-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
I'll check out the web site a bit more. :) And since I hadn't checked anything out pre-downloading, I just picked a episode - "Shindig" It's now about 3/4 down so far and I've seen bits of it. I actually want to wait until I could see all of it at once, so that will be it until it's complete. Of the little bit that I've seen of this episode, I too noticed the Western/Sci-fi undertones. I recognized Nathan Fillion so it will be interesting to see him in this series. :cool:

Probably best to see the 2-hour pilot first ('Serenity'), due to the fact that it sets things up, but I'm guessing you're already watching 'Shindig'. Wasn't one of my favorite episodes, but they're all pretty uniformly good. The following are stunningly good, though:

Serious Eps:
'Out of Gas'
'Ariel'

Funny Eps:
'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


A good site to read up on the show is:
www.fireflyfans.net

It has a section were folks can rate the episodes on a scale of 1-10. Here it is:
TITLE RATE RVW
SERENITY 9.24 17
THE TRAIN JOB 8.39 28
BUSHWHACKED 7.67 12
SHINDIG 8.78 9
SAFE 8.80 10
OUR MRS. REYNOLDS 9.25 17
JAYNESTOWN 8.00 8
OUT OF GAS 9.21 14
ARIEL 9.45 21
WAR STORIES 9.60 15
OBJECTS IN SPACE 8.77 13

Reading the reviews, though, will ruin the surprises in many episodes. That's another reason I think you should see the pilot first, as it's got a few twists and turns that are nullified if you've already seen subsequent eps.

Marcel
01-08-2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
Also, I'm gonna try to reduce the volume (or, at the least, the duration) of my workouts as they've been running way too long (1.5-2 hours)

:eek:

Hopefully you'll be ok and won't collapse from extreme exhaustion. :p



Decided to change things up and do supersets of 1 set of chest, 1 set of back in the morning and reduce my rest periods. Awesome pump, and it really made my workout much more intense, and yet enjoyable

Yup. :strong:

Have fun buddy ole pal.


Oh yea and CALM down with this 'firefly' stuff! :help:

Blood&Iron
01-08-2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Marcel


Oh yea and CALM down with this 'firefly' stuff! :help:
Hey, I'm normally so apathetic about everything in life. Let me get excited about this.

rookiebldr
01-08-2003, 08:19 PM
Well, I managed to download all of Shindig, but I am using a fair bit of restraint and willpower to not view it yet until I get a hold of the first episode. After all this, it better be f*cking worth it. ;) I'll let you know how it works out.

Blood&Iron
01-08-2003, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
Well, I managed to download all of Shindig, but I am using a fair bit of restraint and willpower to not view it yet until I get a hold of the first episode. After all this, it better be f*cking worth it. ;) I'll let you know how it works out.
You'll probably hate it.

galileo
01-13-2003, 05:07 AM
How's the diet coming? I see you are a little shy of your goals, but is the muscle staying on for you?

Blood&Iron
01-13-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by galileo
How's the diet coming? I see you are a little shy of your goals, but is the muscle staying on for you?

How did you come to this conclusion? Not that it's really wrong.
Anyways, I'll answer this is on of my sporadic journal entries. Coming up...


The anticipation must be killing you...

Blood&Iron
01-13-2003, 08:22 PM
Monday January 13th, 2003

Ramblings
Well, I've pretty much succeeded in getting my workouts to be a bit more reasonable in length. All but one are now clocking in at or under an hour, where previously they were all running anywhere from 1.5-2 hours. So, on that front I've done well. I've still failed to get my sh*t together on the 'maintenance' days, though. I just can't, for whatever, reason get myself to have a 'dieting' mentality on those days. I think it's cuz the hypocaloric days are so freaking restrictive, that when I'm finally able to eat a bit more I think 'F*ck, that'd taste good. Hey, why not?' I really don't go too overboard, but it's a bit much. This past week I aslo started doing some cardio. Ended up doing 2 30 min session on an incline treadmill. I've also been using Avant Labs FL7 (topical 7-keto DHEA.) Of course, I continue to make liberal use of ephedrine, NYC, and a bunch of other crap. I think I actually might have lost a bit much weight last week. It's still hard to say as when I go from refeeding to dieting, or vice versa, my weight fluctuates considerably. I need to have another bf% test sometime soon. I am feeling fairly big and lean. I was looking in the mirron at the gym today and almost felt impressive looking. I'm still fat, though.

On another note, I've got a couple of job interviews this week, one of which I'm quite optimistic about. We'll see what happens. I'm not counting on anything. In other job-related news, I sorta hired on as a Personal Trainer at the Bally's where I work out. It'll be interesting. I got to spend my Saturday at a First Aid/CPR class, and today I got to pee in a little cup (Hopefully the blow I did last night won't screw things up).

Exercise:
Chest/back/shoulders



Comments
Decent workout. Went a bit overlong as, due to time constraints this week, I'm only doing 2 sessions, where I'd normally do three.



Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
Pretty solid. Maybe a bit low in calories.

Weight: 206lbs

Sleep: 9 hours.

Miscelleneous: Bit sore.

rookiebldr
01-13-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
[B]Monday January 13th, 2003

Ramblings
(Hopefully the blow I did last night won't screw things up).


rofl


They're really just testing you for gear. :D :D ;)

Marcel
01-16-2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
Monday January 13th, 2003

Ramblings
I am feeling fairly big and lean. I was looking in the mirron at the gym today and almost felt impressive looking. I'm still fat, though.


Wazzup Blooooood?

LOL.

Got any clients, yet?

Oh yea I got the Ronnie Coleman video thing. I don't know what you think of the dude but sh*t is he strong. Humble too. Foo works out hard. You might enjoy the video. Definetly motivating. Funny guy.

"Lightweight baby!!!!!!!"

"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder *shakes head* but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight."

:D

galileo
01-17-2003, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron


How did you come to this conclusion? Not that it's really wrong.
Anyways, I'll answer this is on of my sporadic journal entries. Coming up...


The anticipation must be killing you...

I misread something in a previous post. I saw you say 180kcal short of your goal and for some reason I thought it said 18kcal which I thought of 18000 cal (which is wrong, I know), or about 5lbs. It was just me half-assing things again.

galileo
01-17-2003, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
They're really just testing you for gear. :D :D ;)

Yup, and if you're not then they don't want you!

Blood&Iron
01-17-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Marcel


Wazzup Blooooood?

LOL.

Got any clients, yet?

Nope, no one has had the misfortune yet. I'm trying to figure out how to approach things, cuz the club really tries to push a certain type of training, which is fairly retarded IMO but makes sense from a financial angle (keeping clients and making them feel like they can't do without you). I dunno that I feel comfortable whoring myself. We'll see what happens.



Oh yea I got the Ronnie Coleman video thing. I don't know what you think of the dude


He's dumb. He's really, really, really dumb.



but sh*t is he strong. Humble too. Foo works out hard. You might enjoy the video. Definetly motivating. Funny guy.

"Lightweight baby!!!!!!!"

"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder *shakes head* but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight."

:D

Blood&Iron
01-17-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by galileo


Yup, and if you're not then they don't want you!

Nah, at least one trainer is clearly, and I mean there ain't no f*cking doubt, on gear. Maybe he's just gifted and doesn't use too much, but he did spend his first 1-2 years of BB'ing in Thailand, training with Dennis James. I'd guess he's using more than 250mg of Sustanon a week. Another trainer has openly talked about using insulin, GH, and steroids. Both took the same test I did, and passed just fine. They don't test for steroids.

Course, I doubt the prohormone spray (5-AA) I use preworkout would show up as a steroid, but I wouldn't want to chance it. I was more worried about using ephedrine. I'm unfamiliar with such tests, and would guess that due to the close related structures ephedrine could show up as meth or something. But then since so many folks talk stuff like Xenadrine, they've probably got it exact enough to not make that mistake. I didn't use any beforehand, just to be on the safe side.

galileo
01-17-2003, 12:44 PM
Xenadrine is f*cktardable!

Marcel
01-18-2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

Nope, no one has had the misfortune yet. I'm trying to figure out how to approach things, cuz the club really tries to push a certain type of training, which is fairly retarded IMO but makes sense from a financial angle (keeping clients and making them feel like they can't do without you). I dunno that I feel comfortable whoring myself. We'll see what happens.


He's dumb. He's really, really, really dumb.



LOL. I'm sure you'll make the right decision...right Blood? right Blood!?


I knew you would say that. Might change your mind though about how dumb he really is if you watch it. Heck download it off kazaa.

Anyways, try and make more frequent journal entries will ya? Look at how many fans you got here! :whiner:

rookiebldr
01-18-2003, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Marcel

Anyways, try and make more frequent journal entries will ya? Look at how many fans you got here! :whiner:

:nod:

BTW, I've switched to Kazza and it looks like there just isn't enough peer's out there with Firefly on their shared list to make this go much faster. I'm .75% the way downloading s01e00p1. I have part 2 already so with luck after this weekend that will make 3 hrs worth of viewing. It should give me an idea of what I'll be missing now that it's canceled.

Blood&Iron
01-21-2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Marcel


LOL. I'm sure you'll make the right decision...right Blood? right Blood!?


I knew you would say that. Might change your mind though about how dumb he really is if you watch it. Heck download it off kazaa.


I use dial-up. It would take like 50 hours.



Anyways, try and make more frequent journal entries will ya? Look at how many fans you got here! :whiner:
I only count 3, but I'll see what I can do.

fuzz
01-21-2003, 05:31 PM
*peeks in*

Are you still following Lyle's super secret program? What do you think of it so far?

Blood&Iron
01-21-2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by fuzz
*peeks in*

Are you still following Lyle's super secret program? What do you think of it so far?
Can't really add too much to my past few posts on this. I've added in some cardio, and upped my calories. There are some other adjustments I'm gradually making to tailor it to my own psychological and physiological idiosyncracies. I'll probalby have things perfected about the time I'm ready to stop dieting. Maybe not.

rookiebldr
01-21-2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
I'll probalby have things perfected about the time I'm ready to stop dieting.


That sounds about right. ;)


I finally managed to download the 3 episodes of FireFly. Resorted to using KAZZA in the end. The quality really really sucks. However, I have watched part one thus far and have been too busy to watch part two or shindig. I am glad I waited to for part one since you were correct in that it really does set thing up.

Yes, I agree, it is quite good as far as I've gotten. Wish the quality was better since the few space scenes might have been better if it was clearer. It reminds me a bit of some other show / movie, which I just haven't been able to nail yet. I've got some ideas... later.

Blood&Iron
01-21-2003, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr



That sounds about right. ;)


I finally managed to download the 3 episodes of FireFly. Resorted to using KAZZA in the end. The quality really really sucks. However, I have watched part one thus far and have been too busy to watch part two or shindig. I am glad I waited to for part one since you were correct in that it really does set thing up.

That sucks. I know a couple of folks on the Firefly boards posted links to places you could get the eps, which I'd assume were of good quality. I'll take a look



Yes, I agree, it is quite good as far as I've gotten. Wish the quality was better since the few space scenes might have been better if it was clearer. It reminds me a bit of some other show / movie, which I just haven't been able to nail yet. I've got some ideas... later.
I'm surprised in a way, cuz as much as I love the show it really takes a few eps for the brilliance to become fully apparent IMO. As I think I said before, I wasn't particularly impressed by the first episode shown(which wasn't the pilot--part of the idiotic FOX crap that was responsible for the show getting axed--and was one of the 'weaker' eps).

Did the version you watched start with the Battle of Serenity? Or with the crew breaking into the ship? There was an original, unfinished version circulating on the Internet, and the one that actually aired as the final episode Fox showed with some extra stuff--most notably the battle sequence at the beginning (which was one of my favorite parts of that ep).

Blood&Iron
01-21-2003, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

That sucks. I know a couple of folks on the Firefly boards posted links to places you could get the eps, which I'd assume were of good quality. I'll take a look

I looked. I dunno, but maybe this will help:
http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=4478.1


While looking, I found a link to this. Easily the best article I've read on Firefly, why it's so great, and why it was cancelled:
http://www.theindependentreviewssite.org/

And if you've got a minute (though, I doubt you care enough at this point) one site detailing ways to try and still save Firefly:
http://www.advmax.com/serenityvalley/

rookiebldr
01-21-2003, 09:05 PM
Thanks for the links, I'll hit them up a little later. Except for the last one. You're right, I don't ****ing care enough at this point. ;)

As for the first episode, it is the one with them breaking into the ship. Not too much of a battle scene from what I tell, but there are some interesting space sequences. I especially like the one of serenity powering up and taking off leaving the law behind. The ShinDig episode is of much better quality. This one seems to a fair bit of noise and the idiot doing the taping has his VCR settings appear occasionally. :rolleyes:

P.S. I guess you'll see this in the morning since I just saw you're message. I think the above will answer it.

fuzz
01-21-2003, 09:05 PM
So, w/o giving away details of the program - are you satisfied with it?

Blood&Iron
01-22-2003, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by fuzz
So, w/o giving away details of the program - are you satisfied with it?
Yeah. Half of it is very fun. The other half sucks very badly. It's a lot more difficult, in every imaginable way, than doing HST + slight caloric deficit and since I'm still relatively fat (guessing 14-15% bf, but haven't had it tested for awhile now) the latter would probably work just as well for me. Lyle's approach does *seem* to be working better, though.

Blood&Iron
01-22-2003, 06:01 PM
Wednesday January 22nd, 2003

Ramblings
Ordered a bunch of books today. Some for fun, some cuz I had to (the titles are, in a number of cases, approximate):
Supertraining (cliche)
Facts and Fallacies of Strength Training

(okay, no laughing)
The ACE Manual
ACE Study Guide

The ACE stuff is cuz I'm gonna take the test, and I've been informed there are a bunch of retarded questions you HAVE to have studied for (how to relate to clients, etc) Bleh. But I'm sure, as simple as the test will be, there are plenty o' gaps in my knowledge that studying for the test will force me to confront. It'll be hilarious if I fail. I don't think I'd ever live it down. Will not happen.

Also, while I was at it I ordered a Captain's of Crush Trainer. My grip sucks. Actually, I don't really care that much, but I figured why not?

Saw myself in the mirror at the gym today and almost felt lean. I could kinda see my serratus and the abs were looking halfway decent) I'm still fat, though. Probably around 14-15% bodyfat. I'll have it tested again soon.





Exercise:
30min Incline Treadmill @ 3.5mph @ 15 degrees



Comments
Been taking yohimbine HCL (17.5mg) prior to my cardio sessions--along with the 6mg of yohimbine per 2 capsules of Hollywood Cuts(I take 'em twice a day, for 12mg more) Yohimbine all alone oesn't seem to really have any effect I can feel, but I'm hoping it helps a bit with fat loss.



Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
Few too many carbs. I've upped my calories a bit recently--particularly my carbs, cuz I feel like sh*t when I restrict them too heavily. That's the main reason I'm trying to do more cardio.

Weight: 200lbs

Sleep: 7 hours.

Miscelleneous: n/a

Blood&Iron
01-23-2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by Marcel




Anyways, try and make more frequent journal entries will ya? Look at how many fans you got here! :whiner:
BAH!

See if you get any updates again any time soon...

Marcel
01-23-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

BAH!

See if you get any updates again any time soon...

LMAO!

Marcel
01-23-2003, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

Ramblings
Ordered a bunch of books today. Some for fun, some cuz I had to (the titles are, in a number of cases, approximate):
Supertraining (cliche)
Facts and Fallacies of Strength Training

(okay, no laughing)
The ACE Manual
ACE Study Guide

The ACE stuff is cuz I'm gonna take the test, and I've been informed there are a bunch of retarded questions you HAVE to have studied for (how to relate to clients, etc) Bleh. But I'm sure, as simple as the test will be, there are plenty o' gaps in my knowledge that studying for the test will force me to confront. It'll be hilarious if I fail. I don't think I'd ever live it down. Will not happen.

LOL. Maybe someone will give you a banana. ha.


Also, while I was at it I ordered a Captain's of Crush Trainer. My grip sucks. Actually, I don't really care that much, but I figured why not?

My grip doesn't suck but those always get good reviews.


Saw myself in the mirror at the gym today and almost felt lean. I could kinda see my serratus and the abs were looking halfway decent) I'm still fat, though. Probably around 14-15% bodyfat. I'll have it tested again soon.

14-15% for real? Can't be that high Blood. You've been dieting way too fvckin much for it to be that high. Don't ya think? And if it is that high after all this dieting..... :cry:

Time for another bromo run, eh?


Comments
Been taking yohimbine HCL (17.5mg) prior to my cardio sessions--along with the 6mg of yohimbine per 2 capsules of Hollywood Cuts(I take 'em twice a day, for 12mg more) Yohimbine all alone oesn't seem to really have any effect I can feel, but I'm hoping it helps a bit with fat loss.

Wait wait wait...how much yohim hcl are you taking per day? Isn't 17.5 plus the ephedrine at what...40mg kinda high?

I know what I can tolerate but you might have me beat. Nah, I don't think so. SUCKA!



Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Nothin but bananas. ha.


Comments:
Few too many carbs. I've upped my calories a bit recently--particularly my carbs, cuz I feel like sh*t when I restrict them too heavily. That's the main reason I'm trying to do more cardio.

Ahhhhhh, poor baby. lol. Too bad you can't go into anymore detail.

rookiebldr
01-23-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
The ACE stuff is cuz I'm gonna take the test, and I've been informed there are a bunch of retarded questions you HAVE to have studied for (how to relate to clients, etc) Bleh. But I'm sure, as simple as the test will be, there are plenty o' gaps in my knowledge that studying for the test will force me to confront. It'll be hilarious if I fail. I don't think I'd ever live it down. Will not happen.

Nor would ever let you live it down. We will hound you and bring it up at every opportunity. ;)



Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
Saw myself in the mirror at the gym today and almost felt lean. I could kinda see my serratus and the abs were looking halfway decent) I'm still fat, though. Probably around 14-15% bodyfat. I'll have it tested again soon.

Way to go on the definition and you're back to 200lbs so it sounds this has been working for you. And, if I remember correctly, this has occured faster this time around.

Blood&Iron
01-23-2003, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Marcel


LOL. Maybe someone will give you a banana. ha.



My grip doesn't suck but those always get good reviews.

The one I got is the 'trainer' It's only 100lbs of resistance. Fairly easy to close. It's kinda cool, though. I think I'll just practice holding it closed for as long as possible. I dunno how else I'd be progressive with it.




14-15% for real? Can't be that high Blood. You've been dieting way too fvckin much for it to be that high. Don't ya think? And if it is that high after all this dieting..... :cry:

I've said many times: I'm adiposally-challenged. Plus for much of the time I've been dieting (about 5 months now) I was really trying to be gradual. Too gradual. I think in my paranoia over losing muscle, I simply didn't cut calories hard enough. This past week, I just said 'F*ck it. I'm gonna get lean. If it means I have to drop down to 165 in the process, tough sh*t.' Mostly I've just been doing some cardio. As noted I've actually been eating a bit more in the way of carbs 50g or so more per day. Actually, this past week I've seen a really big change. Probably the biggest and quickest change ever while dieting. Maybe it's just my imagination, but I really think I've dropped a good bit of fat. At this rate, I think I could be at 10% in another month or so. Maybe I'm deluding myself, though.



Time for another bromo run, eh?

I dunno how much the bromo helped. It certainly blunted my appetite, but it didn't really help me lose weight any more quickly. Part of it is that it should work better once you're leaner. I'm still undecided as to what I think of the stuff. I still have a 1-2 month supply (depending on how much I use per day) which I will probably use if I go off Lyle's diet.



Wait wait wait...how much yohim hcl are you taking per day? Isn't 17.5 plus the ephedrine at what...40mg kinda high?

I know what I can tolerate but you might have me beat. Nah, I don't think so. SUCKA!

I take the yohimbine first thing in the morning, 17.5mg all at once, on an empty stomach. Then do my cardio about 30min later. I try to wait until 4 hours later to eat anything to get the full effect from the Y. I'm not combining it with ephedrine. If I do, I'll start at a smaller dose. I've taken Adipo (containing 6mg yohimbine) along with 25mg ephedrine before and I get a dull headache and feel sorta ill, so I don't think it's a real wise combo. Taking 12.5mg ephedrine and 2 Adipo, though, doesn't seem to cause any problems. In any event, on the days I do cardio, my yohimbine/EC schedule is something like:

8:00am 17.5mg yohimbine
9:00-9:30am Cardio
10:00am: 3 squirts FL7
11:00pm 12.5mg ephedrine, 2 Hollywood Cuts(same as adipo: 200mg norephedrine, 6mg yohimbine, 200mg caffeine)
12:00pm meal 1
1:30pm 12.5mg ephedrine, 2 Hollywood Cuts
3:00pm meal 2
4:30pm 12.5mg ephedrine
5:30pm meal 3
7:00pm meal 4
10:00pm 3 squirts FL7
10:30pm bed

On days I lift, I just take 25mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine + 8 squirts In-RAGE(4squirts 30min prior, 4 immediately prior), FL7 after my shower, and every two hours take some ephedrine and a couple of Hollywood Cuts.

Blood&Iron
01-23-2003, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr


Way to go on the definition and you're back to 200lbs so it sounds this has been working for you. And, if I remember correctly, this has occured faster this time around.
I felt huge and lean at the gym this evening. Veins in my biceps were bursting out, and I could even see them in my delts some.

I'm around 205-207lbs or so after my refeed.

I think this is the biggest AND leanest I've ever been. I'm afraid to have a bf% test cuz it'll probably say I'm still 15%. Bah.

Marcel
01-24-2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
The one I got is the 'trainer' It's only 100lbs of resistance. Fairly easy to close. It's kinda cool, though. I think I'll just practice holding it closed for as long as possible. I dunno how else I'd be progressive with it.

Yea, I dunno either. lol. Sounds like fun though.




I've said many times: I'm adiposally-challenged. Plus for much of the time I've been dieting (about 5 months now) I was really trying to be gradual. Too gradual. I think in my paranoia over losing muscle, I simply didn't cut calories hard enough. This past week, I just said 'F*ck it. I'm gonna get lean. If it means I have to drop down to 165 in the process, tough sh*t.' Mostly I've just been doing some cardio. As noted I've actually been eating a bit more in the way of carbs 50g or so more per day. Actually, this past week I've seen a really big change. Probably the biggest and quickest change ever while dieting. Maybe it's just my imagination, but I really think I've dropped a good bit of fat. At this rate, I think I could be at 10% in another month or so. Maybe I'm deluding myself, though.

Yea, that must really suck.

Die, Adipose Die!

Yea, I think you have been paranoid about muscle-loss. I know that when I cut I'm paranoid as can be.

It sounds like your finding out more and more about what kinda dieting schemes work for you. That's great.



I dunno how much the bromo helped. It certainly blunted my appetite, but it didn't really help me lose weight any more quickly. Part of it is that it should work better once you're leaner. I'm still undecided as to what I think of the stuff. I still have a 1-2 month supply (depending on how much I use per day) which I will probably use if I go off Lyle's diet.

It does sound like a good idea once leaner. Kill the appetite!



I take the yohimbine first thing in the morning, 17.5mg all at once, on an empty stomach. Then do my cardio about 30min later. I try to wait until 4 hours later to eat anything to get the full effect from the Y. I'm not combining it with ephedrine. If I do, I'll start at a smaller dose. I've taken Adipo (containing 6mg yohimbine) along with 25mg ephedrine before and I get a dull headache and feel sorta ill, so I don't think it's a real wise combo. Taking 12.5mg ephedrine and 2 Adipo, though, doesn't seem to cause any problems. In any event, on the days I do cardio, my yohimbine/EC schedule is something like:

8:00am 17.5mg yohimbine
9:00-9:30am Cardio
10:00am: 3 squirts FL7
11:00pm 12.5mg ephedrine, 2 Hollywood Cuts(same as adipo: 200mg norephedrine, 6mg yohimbine, 200mg caffeine)
12:00pm meal 1
1:30pm 12.5mg ephedrine, 2 Hollywood Cuts
3:00pm meal 2
4:30pm 12.5mg ephedrine
5:30pm meal 3
7:00pm meal 4
10:00pm 3 squirts FL7
10:30pm bed

On days I lift, I just take 25mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine + 8 squirts In-RAGE(4squirts 30min prior, 4 immediately prior), FL7 after my shower, and every two hours take some ephedrine and a couple of Hollywood Cuts.

Great fvckin little plan, man. I dunno if anyone has asked yet, but have you seen any effects from the fl7 yet?

Laterz homie.

Blood&Iron
01-27-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Marcel


Great fvckin little plan, man. I dunno if anyone has asked yet, but have you seen any effects from the fl7 yet?

\
Certainly seems to be working, but there are way too many confounding variables to say for sure (Added a bunch of cardio, the yohimbine, HMB back in, etc) I really should just change one thing at a time, but I can't help myself.

Blood&Iron
01-27-2003, 07:51 PM
Monday January 27th, 2003

Ramblings
I am officially a personal trainer.

Bow your heads in obeisance!!!

Actually, my first client didn't even bother to show up. F*cker. I just sat at the front desk with my thumb up my ass waiting till I finally said f*ck it, after waiting about 35 minutes It was a 'complimentary' workout for which I would have only gotten $6 anyway, but I was kinda excited to get started. Plus I stuck around the gym and tried to prepare, so I wasted about 3 hours total. Bah. Did learn some cool assisted stretching techniques, though (Similar to PNF for those who know about these sorts of things).

(I probably shouldn't be saying any of this. Hopefully no one that works at my gym is reading this. Oh well)
Spent Saturday at a training session at another Bally's. Much nicer than the whole in the wall I train at. Got there a few hours early to do my workout, and ended up deadlifting with octogonal plates. Let me say one thing: they suck. Then after I finished my workout, I got to do a coulpe of hours of goofy sh*t that clearly displayed my lack of cardiovascular conditioning (I decided later that night it warranted eating a cream-filled donut as a reward). Basically, it consisted of the active rest sorta stuff that's being pushed by the trainers of my gym. Jumping on step boards, jumping jacks, circuit training with really light DB's. I think it's mostly bullsh*t, but I can see the point from a financial aspect. I've been told by my superiors that a client should never repeat the same workout, because then they feel they can do it on their own. Also, a lot of people find the dynamic/do a bunch of goofy jumping around more 'dynamic'. Whatever the f*ck that means. I know from my own experience in the ROTC, that I felt great after my Army PT sessions. Having someone sorta yelling at me, switching from one bodyweight exercise to another, forcing me to exhaustion; I felt like I had done really worked hard. Nevermind that I didn't see any real changes in my body from it. It felt much more challenging than boring, old regular lifting (at the time). So, both in the sense of making clients dependent on me and making them feel like they've really had a workout (never mind the reality) doing that sorta stuff makes sense. Is it going to net my clients the fastest results, in the safest, most efficient manner possible? I doubt it. But then, what do I know? For now, I'm just gonna stick to what I think is 'the right way' to do things.





Exercise:
AM: Chest/back
PM: Legs


Comments
Both workouts went quite well.



Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
Quite a few carbs. But I don't think it's too big of a deal on the days I train twice. If I don't at least have a moderate amount of carbs before the leg workout, it's impossibly difficult.

Weight: 204lbs

Sleep: 9 hours.

Miscelleneous: Nope.

rookiebldr
01-27-2003, 08:35 PM
:bow:

I know I would have told the trainers to go **** themselves if they tried that dynamic **** with me. Could they not see the gleam in my eyes when they showed me the free weights section during the sales pitch? They threw in a free orientation lesson when I first joined so I asked what it was? The pointed to all the circuit training ****. I said thanks but no thanks, just let me lose at that other section.

:cool:

rookiebldr
01-29-2003, 10:31 PM
Just to bump this back up and to let you know that the last site you gave me for firefly was great. I can now download all episodes, quality is great, I mean I can actually see it on my laptop and the size is small enough so that I can get a couple of episodes on a CD. I'll soon have them all. Thanks again.

Blood&Iron
01-31-2003, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
Just to bump this back up and to let you know that the last site you gave me for firefly was great. I can now download all episodes, quality is great, I mean I can actually see it on my laptop and the size is small enough so that I can get a couple of episodes on a CD. I'll soon have them all. Thanks again.
Dunno how I missed this.

The site that has all the eps online. The episodes are in order from bottom to top, i.e., the more recent the ep, the closer to the top it will be (Not counting the 'finalized' Pilot which is actually the topmost one.)
http://versaphile.com/download/firefly.html


Another wonderful article on 'Firefly'. There are some political/philosophical undercurrents here with which I do not completely agree--and some I find distasteful--but on the whole I think this is a great article on "Firefly' Yes, I'm obsessed. I've annoyed my girlfriend with the subject, probably anyone who bothers to read my journal, and a few other folks, I'm sure. I don't give a f*ck. I agree with Parnell, "Firefly" was the best thing that's ever been on television. As my own hope that it might find a new home or be given a second chance by Fox dwindles to nothingness (the actors' contracts expire today), I'm just struggling to deal with how f*cking pissed off and sad I am. That I can feel this way about a t.v. show says two things:
1) I'm a complete f*cking dork.
2) "Firefly" really was THAT good.

(Don't clink on the link if you plan on watching it. There are spoilers.)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/feature.asp?f=39

Most of the relevent quotage:


One thing became utterly clear while I was watching "Serenity," the pilot episode: there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. It had action, it had adventure; it had character and development. It was smart, funny, tough-minded, and 100 percent different. It set everything up perfectly. Unless the programming executives at Fox are retardate morons who need to be in an institution rather than making millions as the heads of a TV network, the decision not to air the two-hour pilot first and the rest of the series' episodes in sequence is too big a blunder to be a simple "mistake" or "accident."

They wanted to kill this show. I believe that, as surely as I do that the sun rises in the east. Had they really been behind the series, and wanted it to "go" somewhere, they would have first of all given it a decent time-slot, one in which it would have had a chance to find an audience—the nine-o'clock (Eastern) slot on Sunday nights, vacated by that overwrought piece of dreck The X-Files*, would have been perfect. It is—was—not an eight o'clock primetime "kiddie" show. It was a serious drama with a fantastic setting. And it was simply without question the best show of its type ever made for television.
...
But now this hints at another problem with Firefly, and which may have contributed to its undoing. This was an uncommon show, aimed at uncommon people. It had depth, sensitivity and intelligence—things notably lacking in every other show on television. The latest Star Trek incarnation, Enterprise, for example, is as shallow as a puddle of dog urine, has a ton of squeamishness masquerading as "sensitivity," and is as stupid as only the post-original Star Trek clones can be. (My favorite pastime, when I bother to watch it, is spotting the inconsistencies and incongruities between this milieu, purportedly taking place a century before the exploits of Kirk and Company, and that of the original series.)
...
There is a petition to save Firefly, hopefully by getting the United Paramount Network (UPN), owners of the Star Trek franchise (and where Whedon already has one "hit" series, Buffy), to pick it up. I support any and all efforts to save this show, if it can be saved, which I honestly doubt. It is genuinely worth something, in my estimation; worth more than all the rest of the TV shows currently on the air. I still think it's the best thing that's ever been on American television; and I can't escape thinking that that is exactly what killed it.

* Diehard fans of The X-Files take note: I was a loyal viewer of that show from the first season, long before it became "popular." It was, in its first few seasons, occasionally and truly as different as Firefly was in every second of its brief existence. Yet as the seasons wore tediously on, and the show became increasingly full of itself, it became abominable, and never more so than when it was obsessed with alien abductions, alien manipulations, and "Native American" superstitions. My eyes would roll back up in my head, and I would snicker derisively through every episode until, at the height of its vaunted "popularity," I gave up on it entirely. "Overwrought dreck" is, to me, the perfect description.

rookiebldr
01-31-2003, 10:18 AM
I should have included the link in my earlier post for the benefit of your other readers and Firefly fans. Hopefully, I'm not the only one. I've now downloaded all episodes and just need to find some time view them. The first one (actually aired last) was great and I am glad I waited to see it first. It's movie material! The space sequences are great, but you knew that already.

Like a compelled uncontrolled boy, I clicked on the second link. You're right, it contains some spoiling but I don't mind, I'm not concerned about knowing the future. But what it did do is confirm that the later episodes are likely containing even more gems. You may have gotten me hooked just as they throw the dirt on the coffin slammed so un-ceremoniously into the 6ft hole that has been dug.

Blood&Iron
01-31-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
I should have included the link in my earlier post for the benefit of your other readers and Firefly fans. Hopefully, I'm not the only one. I've now downloaded all episodes and just need to find some time view them. The first one (actually aired last) was great and I am glad I waited to see it first. It's movie material! The space sequences are great, but you knew that already.

Like a compelled uncontrolled boy, I clicked on the second link. You're right, it contains some spoiling but I don't mind, I'm not concerned about knowing the future. But what it did do is confirm that the later episodes are likely containing even more gems. You may have gotten me hooked just as they throw the dirt on the coffin slammed so un-ceremoniously into the 6ft hole that has been dug.
I thought about just pasting the whole article, sans the spoilers cuz I knew anyone interested wouldn't be able to resist clicking on it. It sorta steal much of the dramatic thunder from 'Ariel'--but it's still an awesome episode. It's one thing to read about that scene, it's something else entirely to see how Nathan Fillion and Adam Baldwin played it, which is some of the best acting I've ever seen on t.v. But the suspense of actually wondering what was going to happen, and knowing that since Whedon has no compunction about killing off his characters at any time (Much like J. Michael Straczynski did with Babylon 5) anything can happen, makes it incredibly suspenseful--if you don't already know what's going to happen.

If you do end up watching the other eps, don't do it how they're listed on that site. There, they're listed by the order in which they aired (which was not the intended one. This was due mostly to the fact that the pilot hadn't been shown) The correct order is:
Serenity (the Pilot)
The Train Job
Bushwacked
Shindig
Safe
Our Mrs. Reynolds
Jaynestown
Out of Gas
Ariel
War Stories
Heart of Gold (unaired as yet)
Objects in Space

Then two more eps that like Heart of Gold haven't been aired. Hopefully we'll see them eventually.

Blood&Iron
02-03-2003, 08:02 PM
Monday February 3rd, 2003

Ramblings

As I've mentioned previously, I am now officially a personal trainer at Bally's. Whoopie-f*cking-do. They actually hired me without any sort of certification--I did have to provide proof that I'd signed up for one. It's not, to me, a good indication of real intelligence at the top, though. I can't imagine what kind of morons could slip through. Wait, yes I can. I work with some of them. (Shawn, if you read this, you're cool, but some of the sh*t I hear some of the other PT's say makes me f*cking want to smash my head into a brick wall. Eric included.) But then most people are morons, and completely incompetent at what they do. Why should personal trainers be any different? The head personal trainer is an okay guy. I guess. If you like mildly-retarded folks. Today, during our bi-weekly skill-enhancement session for personal trainers, I was asked for a good hamstring exercise to do using only a 5lb-medicine ball. Stiff-Legged Deadlift, I replied. No, I was informed by the head trainer, the hamstring is not a primer mover in the SLDL, so it wouldn't be a good choice. Uh, okay. Moron. At the last session, the head trainer was telling me how dorsiflexing (though, he didn't use such a big word--he just said flexing your toes toward your shins) made the hamstring work harder during leg curls. I politely interrupted: 'Doesn't that make the movement easier? If you plantarflex (flexing the toes away from the ankle) it should make the movement more difficult, as the gastrocnemius will no longer be assisting the hamstring.' Nope, he replied, flexing your toes toward you makes it more difficult. Okay. Moron. In both instances, I just stood there with a blank look on my face and said nothing. I don't think it wise to piss the head trainer off, even if he's spouting gibberish.

On a further note of incompetence, I knew before I started that the training-style which the management prefers was bullsh*t, but I've tried to keep an open mind. Mostly their prefered method of training involves having people do a lot of goofy, jumping around, using medicine balls, etc. I've been explicitly told that 'A client should never do the same workout twice. Why do they need you if they can do the workout by themselves?' I've been trying to think how I might be able to incorporate the stuff, without completely destroying my clients' workouts. I dunno if I'll be able to find a way. I'll try, though. As I said, I'm not out to piss people off if I can avoid it. I'll try to toe the line--so long as I don't think I'm endangering the health of my clients, or compromisng the results they get. I've also been told explicitly NOT TO RECORD WEIGHTS OR REPS!!! Anyone can counts reps, the head trainer has said. I can kick someone's a** using just manual resistance, he exlaims. No sh*t, I can kick someone's a** using a single foot. Just kick him in the balls. Or, barring that, make him do 1000 push-ups and run for 3 miles. Will that do a f*cking thing for him that he wouldn't get from just running on a treadmilll for an hour? Maybe a little. Not f*cking much, though. I'm also being repeatedly told how weights and reps are unimportant, and so long as you push the client to failure you'll have given him a good workout. Uh, no, MORON!

So, anyway, when I had my first (complimentary) workout with a client last Wednesday (which I set up myself) I went to Xerox a tracking sheet and get a clipboard so I could write down what we did. I then got a 10-min lecture about how I shouldn't be using either, for the moronic reasons above. I did it anyway. The guy ended up buying 16 sessions (at around $600). My first workout with anyone and he bought 16 sessions. That says it all, I think. Course, the next day I bought little notepads that I can slip in my pocket so I'm not quite so blatant in flauting the head PT's advice. No need to unnecessarily piss people off. But, there ain't no f*cking way I'm not going to track my clients workouts. Further, if they don't like my boring, doing real exercises with meaningful weights, and actually getting results for my clients, I'll quit. Simple as that.

I guess all the above makes sense, in a business sense. You confuse your clients by doing something different with their workouts every time. Consequently, they end up feeling it's impossible for them to workout with you. Since you aren't being progressive with their poundages, their results are only marginal, ensuring that they will continue to require your services as a trainer. And yet, they end up feeling that your offering a valuable service and working them hard The sad things is I feel almost guilty just standing there having my clients do 'regular' workouts. I'm almost tempted to add some frippery, so my clients' workouts don't seem so pedestrian. I only hope the fact that my clients will actually be getting results will validate my approach, and make it possible for me to get the sort of business other folks can achieve only through shadiness and sleight-of-hand.

Man, I need a real job.

I'm done.


Exercise:
AM: Chest/back
PM: Legs


Comments
Leg workout was brutal. Substituted high-rep sumo deads for the 'Butt-blaster' (yes, laugh if you need to), which I've been using for pre-exhaustion prior to doing the leg press. Main reason I switched is that I've tend to get some torque in my low-back from the movement, and after doing sumo (rather than conventional) deadlifts for the first time in a long while and noticing a good deal of soreness in my ass and no low-back discomfort, I figured it would be a good replacement. My pansy ass just did 135 x 15 for two sets. Each set lasted about a minute, and I rested two minutes between the sets. A third set was not gonna happen. Huffing and puffing like a race-horse--and that was only the beginning of my workout. Fun.



Diet:

CLASSIFIED

Comments:
Pretty solid.

Weight: ???

Sleep: 6.5 hours. :cry:

Miscelleneous: Nope

Relentless
02-07-2003, 10:19 AM
Kudos to you for resisting the zombification that seems to be prevalent among PTs.

If you can curb your (completely natural and justified) inclination to tell the head PT to **** off and die, maybe you can be the start of a kind of revolution among PTs - actual competence!

The idea of not recording progress is just staggeringly stupid though. Literally. I think I need to sit down.

Maybe you can become like a sort of guerilla trainer, passing along real advice and helping people achieve meaningful advice.

Vive le revolution!
Cal

Blood&Iron
02-10-2003, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Callahan
Kudos to you for resisting the zombification that seems to be prevalent among PTs.

If you can curb your (completely natural and justified) inclination to tell the head PT to **** off and die, maybe you can be the start of a kind of revolution among PTs - actual competence!

The idea of not recording progress is just staggeringly stupid though. Literally. I think I need to sit down.

Maybe you can become like a sort of guerilla trainer, passing along real advice and helping people achieve meaningful advice.

Vive le revolution!
Cal
I was away for the weekend, so unfortunately I'm just getting to this...

Anyway, thanks for the kind words.

We'll see what happens on the personal training front. I really want a real job, so I don't have to deal with this sh*t anyway. Unfortunately, just before leaving for my trip, I heard back from the most recent company I've interviewed with, and with which I was really hoping to get a job, and I didn't get it. Bah.

But yeah, as the guy was lecturing me on how I should never track clients or have them do the same workout twice, I had an almost irresistable urge to smash my fist into his face. Instead, I just stood there dumb and mute--though, I'm betting the contempt was visible on my face. Oh, well.

rookiebldr
02-10-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
We'll see what happens on the personal training front. I really want a real job, so I don't have to deal with this sh*t anyway. Unfortunately, just before leaving for my trip, I heard back from the most recent company I've interviewed with, and with which I was really hoping to get a job, and I didn't get it. Bah.


I'm sorry to hear this.



Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
But yeah, as the guy was lecturing me on how I should never track clients or have them do the same workout twice, I had an almost irresistable urge to smash my fist into his face. Instead, I just stood there dumb and mute--though, I'm betting the contempt was visible on my face. Oh, well.

I read this earlier, I know that gym managers/owners/sales personal etc. (actually I hate to generalize so I'm sure this doesn't apply to all) are devious and stretch the boundaries of what I would think of integrity, however this version of personal trainers who specifically deceive the person in their progress just to ensure that the client buys additional sessions is... (you have already filled in the blanks). I would hope that if I found a personal training that was good, that I would use them for additional sessions just to perfect the workouts and exercises since I WAS making progress. The fact that you voice these concerns means that at least your clients will know the difference and can make progress given the appropriate desire.

:cool:

I'm with Callahan, buck tradition at your gym, find a way to really help your clients. You know how to get your clients to achieve their goals, you've been there yourself.

JT.

galileo
02-12-2003, 09:31 AM
Info you requested:

Chimaira - Pass Out of Existance [album]

Let Go
Painting the White to Grey

decent songs.

Relentless
02-17-2003, 07:55 PM
well?
any new news on the PT front?

I'm keen to hear war stories. :D

Blood&Iron
02-17-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Callahan
well?
any new news on the PT front?

I'm keen to hear war stories. :D
No, unfortunately there are none to tell.

I have only one regular client at this point. Unfortunately, the fact that I'm unfamiliar with the PNF-like stretching we're supposed to use, along with the sort of 'dynamic' workouts (even if they're sh*t) being espoused (and what a lot of clients undoubtedly want) has made me feel somewhat inadequate. I went in fairly sure of myself. Now, I fear I'm incompetent. The only small comfort I take is that other personal trainers are even stupider. But they seem sure of themselves.

I also don't like the salesmanship aspect. I did work at GNC for some time, and I knew prior to joining that that salemanship ain't my bag. My ability to bullsh*t is just not good enough.

Also, the fact that I don't have set hours and am kinda expected to work whenever a client is available is not something I think I like. Variable hours was also a problem when I worked at GNC. I like having a set schedule. If I've planned on working out at 8pm on Thursday night, come Hell or high water I will be working out at 8pm on Thursday night.

Anyway, all good things to know as I look for a 'real' job. But, again, no entertaining stories.

Blood&Iron
02-17-2003, 08:42 PM
Monday February 17th, 2003

Ramblings
Went into my Saturday workouts feeling no drive and worried that I might have pulled one of my hip flexors. Had thought about skipping deads (which I've been doing sumo-style and was probably responsible for the problem--due to too wide a stance) but did them anyway. Actually, surprisingly enough, my problem was my leg but my grip. I've dropped using straps and have been using a mixed grip for my work sets. Grip hasn't been an issue, but I've been going fairly light since I switched from conventional to sumo deads and have been gradually working my way back up in weight. Last week I did 275 x 5 for two sets without problems. This week i went for 285 and the bar started rolling out of my hands at the beginning of rep three (Got the rep, but dropped the BB about 1/2 inch from the floor) Only got two reps on the 2nd set, then did a 3rd set with straps and hit 275 for 5. Workouts was otherwise pretty mediocre.

So, since I'm a bit burned out, I had a crappy workout, and my hip flexor was bothering me, I decided to take the week off. I might do a couple weeks of HST (the 15s) with an isolcaloric diet to give myself a little more time away from the heavy stuff. Maybe not.

Also, thinking of going down to the Arnold expo next weekend with some other guys from my gym.

Exercise:
None.


Comments
Nope.



Diet:

No.

Comments:
So so. Yesterday was really sh*t--two packages of cookies. Two donuts. And some chinese food. Today, one donut, and a little other crap, but otherwise not too bad.

Weight: Fat.

Sleep: 8 hours.

Miscelleneous: Nope

Blood&Iron
02-17-2003, 08:45 PM
Addendum: Not that anyone cares, but my gf made a kick-ass 'Firefly' shirt for me for Valentine's Day. Has a nice full color photo of the ship with photos of all the characters (minus the doctor--she didn't watch the show). Very cool.

Maki Riddington
02-17-2003, 09:48 PM
B&I, I really really feel you man. The pain you have to endure must be extremely hard on you.

Let me say that PT's are dumb, certifications are everything, and you best look the part otherwise you aint impressing nobody.

My advice to you is to keep your mouth shut. Silence is so golden sometimes, especially when people spout nonsense off.

It takes a lot to establish yourself in this game and if you want to stick around you're gonna have to put up with a lot more of this bullshiat.

I don't accept just any client. I like clients who come to me. That's why I have so few. But the few I have are long term and I enjoy training them and making them stronger depending on their goals. They know that I know what I'm doing and they trust me. I have them do the same workout for about 2 months before I even change things up. Why fix it if it aint broke? Right? Anyways, it looks like I'll have to go for my ACE as well since I may be moving around. I'm gonna get my company up and running and it will be geared towards getting people stronger and bigger. That's my area of expertise. I just have to find a name first.

Anyways, everything you've said I've been through.

rookiebldr
02-17-2003, 10:12 PM
Of course some of us care. What is really great is that your girl friend knows you so well that she knew making you a 'Firefly' shirt would rock.


Btw, I have finished eps 1. Ace!

Blood&Iron
02-18-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Maki Riddington
B&I, I really really feel you man. The pain you have to endure must be extremely hard on you.

Let me say that PT's are dumb, certifications are everything, and you best look the part otherwise you aint impressing nobody.

My advice to you is to keep your mouth shut. Silence is so golden sometimes, especially when people spout nonsense off.

It takes a lot to establish yourself in this game and if you want to stick around you're gonna have to put up with a lot more of this bullshiat.



I hadn't really planned on this being my career, though, perhaps it will end up being that way--I'm not having all that much success in the IT field.



I don't accept just any client. I like clients who come to me. That's why I have so few. But the few I have are long term and I enjoy training them and making them stronger depending on their goals. They know that I know what I'm doing and they trust me. I have them do the same workout for about 2 months before I even change things up. Why fix it if it aint broke? Right?


I've sorta been taking that approach. Waiting for people who will appreciated my approach. I've been lifting at this gym for 4 years now, so I know a few people--despite the fact that I generally look angry, unapproachable, and just like an all-around prick while lifting. The only problem is there is certainly a sorta 'quota' thing going on. We're expected to be producing X amount of dollars. For example, there is an EAS Body-for-life knockoff Bally's is doing, and I'm responsible for signing 4 people up for it; there's a little white board in the PT office with everyone's name, along with the number of people you've signed up next to it. The head office also regularly sends out sheets saying which club signed up the most clients, which trainer worked the most hours, etc. It's a very competitive atmosphere.



Anyways, it looks like I'll have to go for my ACE as well since I may be moving around. I'm gonna get my company up and running and it will be geared towards getting people stronger and bigger. That's my area of expertise. I just have to find a name first.

Maki's Muscular Metamorphoses



Anyways, everything you've said I've been through.

THanks for the sympathy.

The_Chicken_Daddy
02-18-2003, 10:23 AM
So how are things regarding Lyle's recommendations?

And are you still using glutamine? What is your dosing schedule for it?

Blood&Iron
02-18-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
So how are things regarding Lyle's recommendations?

You mean just with regard to glutamine?



And are you still using glutamine? What is your dosing schedule for it?
Yes. I always use glutamine. I don't really think it's all that expensive if you buy one of the cheap brands. About $20 US for 500 grams.

Currently, I use 5g prior to lifting/cardio, and 5g before bed (Lyle only recommends 2g since he's basing his recommendation on a study showing an increase in GH). 1tsp = 5g, which is easier.

I also use it on my 'heavy' days, in the following manner:
Before workout: 5g glutamine + 5g glutamine peptide
During workout: 5g glutamine + 5g glutamine peptide
After workout: 5g glutamine + 5g glutamine peptide.
But this isn't due to anything suggested by Lyle.

The_Chicken_Daddy
02-18-2003, 11:06 AM
Just the diet recommendations from the chapter he sent you.

I was just curious as to how things were working?

Thanks re: glutamine btw.

PowerManDL
02-18-2003, 11:09 AM
That kind of crap is the exact reason I haven't gotten into the PT business yet.

Honestly, if it wouldn't be so hard to build the client base from scratch, I'd seriously consider opening a gym/training studio of my own and work from there.

I've yet to run into any sales-based corporate vision that would mesh well with honest-to-God results in the gym.

BTW, I dl'ed the two-part Firefly pilot. You'd better not be setting me up for a disappointment*!

*disappointment being defined as either a) a suckass show or b) a show I'll be so into that I'll personally go to the FOX head offices and punch them in the face like a bitch.

Blood&Iron
02-18-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by PowerManDL
That kind of crap is the exact reason I haven't gotten into the PT business yet.

Honestly, if it wouldn't be so hard to build the client base from scratch, I'd seriously consider opening a gym/training studio of my own and work from there.

I've yet to run into any sales-based corporate vision that would mesh well with honest-to-God results in the gym.

Preach on, brotha!

I think I'm gonna go shoot myself now.



BTW, I dl'ed the two-part Firefly pilot. You'd better not be setting me up for a disappointment*!

*disappointment being defined as either a) a suckass show or b) a show I'll be so into that I'll personally go to the FOX head offices and punch them in the face like a bitch.
You'll probably hate it.

In which case you should be thankful. I'm still in mourning. I would have preferred one of my grandparents keel over to Firefly being cancelled. Hell, I've got 4 of them.

Really, though, I'm not sure what you'll think. I wasn't particularly impressed at first. It's a character-driven show (much like Farscape) so it takes a few episodes to really get into it.

Blood&Iron
02-18-2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Just the diet recommendations from the chapter he sent you.

I was just curious as to how things were working?

Thanks re: glutamine btw.
Seems to be working quite well. I'm taking the week off, though.

I had two donuts for breakfast today.

PowerManDL
02-18-2003, 11:22 AM
Well, considering that character-based sci-fi shows have always been my favorite (I was one of those few that thought the first season of Babylon 5 was by far the best [well, with the exception of the 7-8 episodes at the end of season 3 and start of season 4]), and Farscape to this day remains in my Top 5 favorite shows ever, I think I might have a shot at appreciating it.

Relentless
02-18-2003, 11:28 AM
it might just be my imagination, or the fact I'm at the end of HST but I started on glutamine 2 weeks ago and have felt... harder.

what's with the peptide?

Blood&Iron
02-18-2003, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by PowerManDL
Well, considering that character-based sci-fi shows have always been my favorite (I was one of those few that thought the first season of Babylon 5 was by far the best [well, with the exception of the 7-8 episodes at the end of season 3 and start of season 4]), and Farscape to this day remains in my Top 5 favorite shows ever, I think I might have a shot at appreciating it.

Babylon 5 was great. Prior to 'Firefly' it was my favorite SF show period. It had some minor problems, most notable JMS' occasionally wince-inducing dialogue, but on the whole was incredible. Couldn't say I thought any one season was best ('cept, like you said, the end of season three/beginning of season 4).

Farscape has likewise had some truly great episodes/mini-arcs (The first one with Scorpius in particular) But I've been somewhat disappointed with it the last two seasons, and like Star Trek (though nowhere near the degree) it seems to recycle certain motifs/episodes a bit too often.

Star Trek just flat-out sucks nowadays. I'll tune into Enterprise only to flip the channel after about 20minutes of muttering 'Why the f*ck do I care?' at the screen.

Blood&Iron
02-18-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Callahan
it might just be my imagination, or the fact I'm at the end of HST but I started on glutamine 2 weeks ago and have felt... harder.

what's with the peptide?
Glutamine tends to be absorbed (read: hijacked) by the intestinal mucosa, which has a voracious need for the stuff. Consequently, VERY little makes it to your muscles. Peptide should be absorbed, as far as I understand, by the peptide-transport system which is a bit higher up in the GI, allowing more to make it to your muscles. I use both for no better reason than peptide tastes like complete sh*t, and most of the research has been done with the free-form version (although, as many like to point out, intravenously) Also, at least one study comparing the two found the free-form version to be better (which the author's didn't expect, and which still doesn't make sense to me--there were some possible flaws in the study design).

I'd guess your muscles feel 'harder' because you're doing lower reps. Not because of the glutamine.

PowerManDL
02-18-2003, 11:41 AM
I tuned out of Star Trek right about the time Deep Space 9 started getting good, with the Dominion war and what not-- I did manage to catch its finale, as well as Voyager's finale, but I haven't bothered to watch anything since that.

I agree, B5 was one of the better shows, but I kinda felt screwed wondering what would have *actually* happened if Sinclair had hung around instead of bringing in Sheridan; especially with respect to seeing his older self on Babylon 4. To me, the other half of that story never did feel quite right.

Blood&Iron
02-18-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by PowerManDL

I agree, B5 was one of the better shows, but I kinda felt screwed wondering what would have *actually* happened if Sinclair had hung around instead of bringing in Sheridan; especially with respect to seeing his older self on Babylon 4. To me, the other half of that story never did feel quite right.
Can't say that ever bothered me.

To me, B5 was always about Londo and G'Kar.

What I really loved about B5, was the sort of foreshadowing and thematic exploration that the format allowed. I still think it's incredibly cool that JMS had the whole damn show planned from beginning to end before the first episode was shot.

I remember one scene, which occurred sometime in the third season and went something like:
Londo: Where is my jacket?
Chancellor: Oh, that one, I had it sent to the cleaner.

And Londo proceeds to pull down his purple jacket, which he hadn't worn since season 1. I was sh*tting myself in anticipation of what was coming up. They'd been showing the same dream sequence for the last three years, and suddenly there it is. And whereas previously it made no sense, suddenly it's in context. Probably the coolest single moment in the history of television.

Blood&Iron
02-20-2003, 07:02 PM
B]Thursday February 20th, 2003[/B]

Ramblings
I'm still working my job as a personal trainer, and searching work in my field. Got my first check from Bally's. A whopping $69 (well, $60 minus taxes). Actually, not bad for working 4 hours. Anyway, trained my 2nd guy tonight (I've just been working with one dude so far). He seemed to be in pretty good shape (he mentioned during the course of the workout he played semi-pro football last year and he looked bigger than me) and I decided to give him a more 'traditional' workout. First had him do deads. Watched his form, which consisted of bending over at the waist and just picking the bar up, and got him doing his deads sumo style and using considerable hip flexion. So, he did:
135 x 6, 225 x 6, 275 x 3
He quit kinda early on the last set. Then we did a horizontal leg press.
135 x 5, 175 x 5, 215 x 10
Onto bench pressing where he did:
bar x 6, 135 x 6, 185 x 4, 225 x 5

This was about 20 minutes into the workout and he complained he was light-headed. He was also sweating very profusely. So, he just sort of laid down on the floor. I suggested he buy a Gatorade and sip on that. But he just wasn't ready to go on. So, I just sorta waited around for twenty minutes, finally suggesting we stretch. Then, since he was feeling a little better we did a couple sets of Hammer Strength Row.
90 x 5, 160 x 4, 180 x 4

I think he got a decent workout in. If we could have fit some overhead pressing in, it would have really been complete. He didn't commit to training with me, but said he'd think about it, so I suggested one more complimentary session (which, like this one, I get a measly $6 for) and hopefully I won't kick his ass so badly next time, and he'll be willing to shell out some cash.

On the 'Firefly' front, the only good news for quite some time. This from the FOX 'Firefly' board:


Hello all! Hope your winter/spring has been as productive and busy as mine. I've had my nose to the grindstone looking for work. Been hanging with castmembers and remembering the "good times" as we like to call them. We are all still waiting to hear Joss' news about Firefly. He has been hard at work and keeping us all updated, it looks as though something is close! I can't wait to get those tightpants on again. I've had a little time on my hands, been able to go hiking much more than i used to during crazy Firefly hours. Visited the Fox lot yesterday to see that they have dismantled the ship. Not to worry, I'm told it can be put together in a jiffy, and the crew is anxious to do just that. Meantime, I'm auditioning like crazy, praying for a job I can love as much as Firefly. FAT CHANCE!
I haven't been lurking for some time< so I'm not up on all the news, but just to dispel rumours, I DO have a computer, I DON'T have internet. So long, all.
Nathan "Captain Tightpants" Fillion


KICK-ASS!

Exercise:
None.


Comments
Nope.


Diet:

No.

Comments:
Included a stop at Taco Bell and a package of cookies. I should really get this under control. Bleh.

Weight: 210lbs = Fat.

Sleep: 9 hours.

Miscelleneous: My back, oddly enough, started bothering me last night. The same stupid injury from my moronic squatting fiasco, so painfully detailed in my original journal. F*ck me.

rookiebldr
02-20-2003, 11:49 PM
Well you better make sure that you have clients. Since we can't see YOUR workouts, then at least we can see your clients. :D BTW, nice pushing your clients so hard that they almost puke. I can hardly wait for my free session. ;)


Firefly quote = ace. Thanks for keeping some of us informed since we don't all make it to the boards you do.


Sorry to hear about your back, dude. I hope it's not as bad this time though.

Maki Riddington
02-21-2003, 01:54 PM
Btw Blood, do you ask them if they have eaten anything in the last couple hours before the workout?

Blood&Iron
02-21-2003, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Maki Riddington
Btw Blood, do you ask them if they have eaten anything in the last couple hours before the workout?
I've only trained 2 folks so far. Haven't made it a practice, although if I trained someone first thing in the morning I would. This was in the afternoon, and as soon as he said he felt light-headed I asked when he had last eaten. He said at 12:00pm (It was 4:20pm or so).

Blood&Iron
03-04-2003, 06:49 PM
Tuesday March 4th, 2003

Ramblings

Had planned to hit the Arnold this weekend, but unfortunately I got sick and didn't feel up to making the 4 hour drive. Also, had to skip my Saturday workout, which really sucked--Lyle's training/diet plan if very regimented and skipping one portion completely f*cks things up.

Still feeling slightly under the weather.

More war stories from the personal training front:
So, I've trained about 5-6 folks now--some for quite a few sessions, others only once. Today, I trained a guy that I've talked to a couple of times over the past year or so. He weighs all of 140, and I always see him benching, deadlifting, and squatting, but with fairly crappy form. Since his goal is mainly strength I figured he'd be a cool guy to train.

I was finishing up my own workout when I saw him come into the gym. I told him to warm-up on a treadmill for a 4-5 minutes and that I'd be right with him (This was at 10:45am; our appointment was for 11:00am) So, I take a real quick shower and go out to the gym floor right on time. He's over in the power rack, squatting.
'I've just got one set left' he says.
I had already told him I was taking him through an entire workout, so I'm at a complete f*cking loss.
'Okay' I say, somewhat annoyed, and watch him finish off his final set. His form is pretty decent, although he's a good 5-6 inches above parallel even at the bottom. After he finishes, I decide we should try some deadlifts. I ask him what his work set is. 275 x 5, he replies. So, we load the bar with 135 and I ask him to do 3-4 reps so I can look at his form.

It's terrible. He just bends over and picks up the bar, using almost no leg flexion and rounding his back completely. I then demonstrate what I consider proper form. Legs 4-5 inches above parallel, back flat/slightly arched, shoulders tight/retracted, looking slightly upward and the hips rising and back extending all in one fluid motion. I ask him to try.

He can't manage it. We then spend the next 30 minutes trying to get him to deadlift properly. Now, I've shown two other folks (neither of whom had deadlifted before) and both got it right away (of course, once bad form is ingrained it IS very hard to overcome). This guy can't even keep his f*cking shoulders back. I figure he must be have f*cking cerebral palsy and just never been diagnosed. Finally, after all sorts of crap he's got it.
'That's it' I exclaim. 'Great job. Okay, lets do 6 reps'

He starts up. His form is sh*t again. His back rounding, he shoulders rolling forward. I give up. During this whole time, the guy has been interrupting me every other sentences, barraging me with all sorts of weird, off-topic questions. But, I take him through a few more things. When we finished, I don't even bother showing him prices. I never want to see the guy again. I feel like I've just been interrogated by the CIA, then worked a twenty-hour day. Every other training session with a client, I've really enjoyed.

Anyways, before leaving the PT director asks if I can train a guy later in the evening. I don't want to, and have other things to do, but in the interest of being a 'good' guy, I say 'sure'. I call the guy, and say I can't train him at 6pm, but I can get him at 7pm. If that won't work, anytime tomorrow will be okay I tell him--I'm actually hoping he can't train until tomorrow. But, he says he'll come in at 7pm. I go home, take care of some stuff, and head (grudgingly) back to the gym to train this guy. Just as I walk in the door, the receptionist stops me.
'There's a call for you.'
I pick up the phone.
'Hey, I need to reschedule. I can't come in tonight. Can we reschedule for tomorrow.'

F*cking twat.

Rereading the above, I don't think I've conveyed the sucktitude of things. Bah. Whatever.




Exercise:
Legs/Arms


Comments
Felt pretty nauseated after legs and rested about twenty minutes before I felt ready to give sufficient effort to my arm workout. I've been having three workouts over Monday/Tuesday for this reason, but I've got a cold and tried to consolidate things a bit/reduce my volume (I'm reducing my cardio sessions from 3-4 to 1-2) as a precautionary measure.

Diet:
Yes.

Comments:
Okay.

Weight: 197lbs

Sleep: 8.5 hours.

Miscelleneous: Nope.

chris mason
03-04-2003, 06:59 PM
I haven't taken the time to read all of the recent posts in your journal, how is the diet going? Do you think it is giving you special results, or more akin to what you might expect from a "normal" diet?

Blood&Iron
03-04-2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by chris mason
I haven't taken the time to read all of the recent posts in your journal, how is the diet going? Do you think it is giving you special results, or more akin to what you might expect from a "normal" diet?

Yes, I think it's given me better results than a more traditional diet. I haven't had a bf% test for some time now, though, so it's hard to say for sure. I think the results would be even better if I could more closely adhere to the intended structure of the diet. There are several days of severe caloric restriction, a refeed, and then maintenance or (more ideally) slightly sub-maintenance eating for several days. I do well on everything except the maintenance days. Since the hypocaloric days and refeed are pretty tighly regimented, I tend to use the maintenance days to eat whatever I want (so long as I don't completely go crazy). I think this tends to put a bit a bit of fat back on. I've been working at getting this squared away, but my I'm not doing such a hot job.

The training (although, I'm starting to tire of it) is also quite fun, as it involved working at a number of different rep ranges, and varying levels of volume. I also get to go to failure at every workout, which I've got to admit I do miss occasionally while using HST (although, the training is still somewhat along the lines of HST)

chris mason
03-04-2003, 07:33 PM
Righto, I guess what I am asking is whether or not you would recommend this to to others. Do you feel it is optimal for you?

Blood&Iron
03-04-2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by chris mason
Righto, I guess what I am asking is whether or not you would recommend this to to others. Do you feel it is optimal for you?
Yes, for a very dedicated bodybuilder. The diet and training are, IMO, far too complex (It's essentially three different diets and three different training routines going on at once) and the training too un-fun for an 'average' weightlifter to stick with.
(Although I previously said I found the training fun, some of the workouts suck pretty badly--I'm quite nauseated during all but one of my weekly workouts. Lyle was, you've got to remember, a HIT guy for quite a while and that's reflected in quite a few of the training recommendations).

I'm not sure if it's even ideal for me, psychologically-speaking, given my admitted difficulty in eating right on the maintenance days.

Physiologically, I think the approach is probably as close to ideal as one can get.

rookiebldr
03-07-2003, 10:31 PM
Episode 2 - done

Do you know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get to beat you with until you understand who is in direct command - Jayne

You've got to love it. hehehehe


That's too bad about you getting sick last weekend. I'm sure you're back to top form though now. :)

Your latest adventures of "training the dammed" would seem very funny if it wasn't instead so sad. Sooner or later, somebody will come in, want to be trained, and will learn from your instruction. They will improve and it will be due to their hard work and your effort and knowledge that you've put into it. You will relish that day and I'm sure it will be worthwhile. In the mean time, have fun with the idiots. :D :D

Blood&Iron
03-09-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
Episode 2 - done

Do you know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get to beat you with until you understand who is in direct command - Jayne

You've got to love it. hehehehe

I think one thing that really made me love 'Firefly' was the great dialogue. It amazing how many great one-liners it had. Least three or four every episode.


I've wanted to re-watch that episode (The Train Job) It was the first one Fox aired (instead of the pilot) and I really didn't get into it. I wasn't really very impressed with the show, and I think that was due to not knowing any of the characters well. )The end was cool enough to convince me to keep watching). I think I'd enjoy it much more now.

Jayne is easily my favorite character, btw. I think the episode that hooked me was actually 'Jaynestown' which is priceless and centers around his character.






That's too bad about you getting sick last weekend. I'm sure you're back to top form though now. :)

Yup. Fine now, thanks.




Your latest adventures of "training the dammed" would seem very funny if it wasn't instead so sad. Sooner or later, somebody will come in, want to be trained, and will learn from your instruction. They will improve and it will be due to their hard work and your effort and knowledge that you've put into it. You will relish that day and I'm sure it will be worthwhile. In the mean time, have fun with the idiots. :D :D

Nah, it's been pretty decent. My big concern is that my 'boring' approach to things does tend to give folks the impression that once they get the basics down, they don't need me anymore--which, I suppose, is true. I've had a couple guys who bought training with their memberships, and neither has continued with me after those initial sessions were used up. That's not (least I don't think) due to the training being bad. It's just I generally take them through the same workout each time, don't initially push them too hard (if they're beginners) and I'm sure they feel like they can keep doing the same thing without me. There is something to be said for doing all the goofy ****/changing the workout every time. I'm still not quite ready to take that step, though. On the whole, I do generally enjoy training people. I still want a 'real' job, though. 'Tis not to be I fear, though.

BTW, nice addition to your sig.

rookiebldr
03-09-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
I think one thing that really made me love 'Firefly' was the great dialogue. It amazing how many great one-liners it had. Least three or four every episode.


I've wanted to re-watch that episode (The Train Job) It was the first one Fox aired (instead of the pilot) and I really didn't get into it. I wasn't really very impressed with the show, and I think that was due to not knowing any of the characters well. )The end was cool enough to convince me to keep watching). I think I'd enjoy it much more now.

Jayne is easily my favorite character, btw. I think the episode that hooked me was actually 'Jaynestown' which is priceless and centers around his character.


I loved the at the end when the henchman refused the money and indicated that they would be hunted down and killed. Without any further ado, Fillion kicked him into the engine in-take, splat no more henchman. hahahaha. I didn't see that coming at all.

I liked this episode better than the first pilot, however, I was glad I saw the pilot since I knew the characters and why they were together. Made this one much better I think.


Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

BTW, nice addition to your sig.

hehehe, I like your current one too. ;)

Relentless
03-10-2003, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
Nah, it's been pretty decent. My big concern is that my 'boring' approach to things does tend to give folks the impression that once they get the basics down, they don't need me anymore--which, I suppose, is true. I've had a couple guys who bought training with their memberships, and neither has continued with me after those initial sessions were used up. That's not (least I don't think) due to the training being bad. It's just I generally take them through the same workout each time, don't initially push them too hard (if they're beginners) and I'm sure they feel like they can keep doing the same thing without me. There is something to be said for doing all the goofy ****/changing the workout every time. I'm still not quite ready to take that step, though. On the whole, I do generally enjoy training people. I still want a 'real' job, though. 'Tis not to be I fear, though.

Suggestion: When you know their free or pre-purchased sessions are coming to a close, acknowledge it and ask them if they plan to continue with regular sessions. If they don't, try to get them to schedule a followup workout in 4 or 6 weeks to make sure they're on track. Maybe even toss in the 1-month followup for free and then start charging with the 8-week followup... it's all about the ongoing revenue stream. :D

Blood&Iron
03-10-2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Callahan


Suggestion: When you know their free or pre-purchased sessions are coming to a close, acknowledge it and ask them if they plan to continue with regular sessions. If they don't, try to get them to schedule a followup workout in 4 or 6 weeks to make sure they're on track. Maybe even toss in the 1-month followup for free and then start charging with the 8-week followup... it's all about the ongoing revenue stream. :D
That's definitely a good idea; I've actually been trying to do that. I'm still working out the kinks to all this personal training stuff. I've worked sales before (GNC), and I know it doesn't really suit my personality. I'm far too laid-back, in general. But I can kinda force myself--a bit anyways.

Blood&Iron
03-10-2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by rookiebldr


I loved the at the end when the henchman refused the money and indicated that they would be hunted down and killed. Without any further ado, Fillion kicked him into the engine in-take, splat no more henchman. hahahaha. I didn't see that coming at all.

As I've said a couple times before, that's what made me tune in the following week. I love how Fillion then turns to the other guy, and says the exact same thing. Great stuff.



I liked this episode better than the first pilot, however, I was glad I saw the pilot since I knew the characters and why they were together. Made this one much better I think.

Like I've been saying, and as you've surely noticed, 'Firefly' is both very quirky and character-centered. I think whatever episdoe you see first, you'll tend to like some, and each subsequent episode is better and better--simply because you get used to the superficial oddities, and get to know the characters. It took 3 or 4 eps before I was really hooked. Some of the later eps are stunningly good ('Out of Gas' and 'Ariel' spring to mind) Best thing that's ever been on t.v. IMO, bar none.



hehehe, I like your current one too. ;)
Couldn't help myself. Though I do tend towards pomposity myself at times, but I try to always keep myself in check. If I see someone else doing it, though, you can be your ass I'll try to show him how silly it is.

Maki Riddington
03-10-2003, 12:00 PM
Lol, I just got a new client that a 60 year old lady who's borderlining on diabeties, high blood pressure, has a severe postural problem and may have a thyroid problem. Oh and she wants to lose bodyfat.

Isn't PTing fun?

On a more positive note one of my other clients wants to lose as much weight as possible in 8 weeks for his vacation.
That's the fun stuff.

Blood&Iron
03-10-2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Maki Riddington
Lol, I just got a new client that a 60 year old lady who's borderlining on diabeties, high blood pressure, has a severe postural problem and may have a thyroid problem. Oh and she wants to lose bodyfat.

I'm not desperate enough to take those sorts of folks yet. In fact, so far, I've only been training guys.



Isn't PTing fun?

On a more positive note one of my other clients wants to lose as much weight as possible in 8 weeks for his vacation.
That's the fun stuff.
Yeah, kinda. What's more fun are those rare individuals that say "I want to put on as much muscle as possible. I want to look like a freak!'

BTW, I don't have any of those. But, there's a guy who I might get to sign up in the next week or two. That would kick ass.

Maki Riddington
03-13-2003, 11:41 AM
Are you imlying that I'm a desperate trainer?

Blood&Iron
03-13-2003, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Maki Riddington
Are you imlying that I'm a desperate trainer?
Imlying? No.

Implying? Maybe.


Seriously, not at all. I just mean that in my case, I still have the luxury to be picky about my clients. As soon as I start depending on the income from PT'ing, I won't be able to do so.

Maki Riddington
03-15-2003, 05:27 PM
Ah, it's not that bad. However I never had a chance to refer her to another trainer.

I usually welcome all weight loss, weight gain and strength training clients. I hate rehab clients because training them is so boring.

rookiebldr
03-28-2003, 10:05 PM
Fillion: "Mighty fine Shindig." ;)

rookiebldr
03-28-2003, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron
Yeah, kinda. What's more fun are those rare individuals that say "I want to put on as much muscle as possible. I want to look like a freak!'

BTW, I don't have any of those. But, there's a guy who I might get to sign up in the next week or two. That would kick ass.

It's amazing that these individuals are so hard to find. There was this couple who was talking to a pt at my club as I was walking out the door. I over heard the guy say to the PT, "I don't want to get really big just a bit toned". I smiled to myself and thought that was really too bad, what a waste.

Blood&Iron
03-29-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr
Fillion: "Mighty fine Shindig." ;)

Actually, starting with 'Shindig' most eps have a ton of great dialogue IMO. I thought the best bits were
(taken from http://firefly.shriftweb.org/transcripts.shtml):





BADGER
I know a place he'll be. Safe place. Using some
new-tech gun scans. High-class too. Wouldn't let me
in there. You might slip in. Course you couldn't buy
an invite with a diamond the size of a testicle, but I
got my hands on a couple.

Mal and Jayne glance at each other, snickering like little boys.





WASH
Don't fall asleep now. Sleepiness is weakness of
character. Ask anyone. You're acting captain.
Know what happens you fall asleep now?

ZOE
Jayne slits my throat, and takes over.

WASH
That's right.

ZOE
And we can't stop it.

WASH
Well, I wash my hands of it. It's a hopeless case.
I'll read a nice poem at the funeral. Something
with imagery.

ZOE
You could lock the door and keep the power-hungry
maniac at bay.

WASH
Oh, no, I'm starting to like this poetry idea now.
(dramatically)
Here lies my beloved Zoe, my autumn flower, somewhat
less attractive now she's all corpsified and gross...




PORTER
There has been a challenge.

ATHERTON
I hope you're prepared, Captain.

MAL
What? You all talking about a fight? That's fine.
(taking off his jacket)
Let's get out of here.

INARA
It's not a fist fight, Mal.

PORTER
The duel will be met tomorrow morning at Cadrie Pond.

MAL
Well, why wait? Where's that guard? He collected
a whole mess of pistols.

PORTER
If you require it, any gentleman here can give you
use of a sword.

MAL
Use of a swo... what?




BADGER
The captain's gone and gotten himself in trouble.

A short time later, the crew has assembled in the cargo hold. Only Jayne and River are missing.

BOOK
A duel?

WASH
With swords?

SIMON
Captain's a good fighter, he must know how to
handle a sword.

ZOE
I think he knows which end to hold.




[quote]
HARROW
He's down. You have to finish it, lad. You have to
finish it. For a man to lie beaten, and yet breathing?
It makes him a coward.

INARA
It's humiliation.

MAL
Sure, it's humiliating. Having to lie there while
the better man refuses to spill your blood. Mercy
is the mark of a great man.
(pokes Atherton in the belly with the sword)
Guess I'm just a good man.
(pokes him again for good measure)
Well, I'm all right.



I've finished rewatching every episode. Watched 'Our Mrs. Reynolds' twice--it's my favorite, and I realize now that was the ep that hooked me (Every Whedon-penned ep is great, IMO).

Blood&Iron
03-29-2003, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr


It's amazing that these individuals are so hard to find. There was this couple who was talking to a pt at my club as I was walking out the door. I over heard the guy say to the PT, "I don't want to get really big just a bit toned". I smiled to myself and thought that was really too bad, what a waste.

I'll never understand people like that. I put them in the same category as folks who watch reality shows and people who self-mutilate.

rookiebldr
03-30-2003, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron

I've finished rewatching every episode. Watched 'Our Mrs. Reynolds' twice--it's my favorite, and I realize now that was the ep that hooked me (Every Whedon-penned ep is great, IMO).

I'll plan on getting to at least two more this week. Which should bring me to 'Our Mrs. Reynolds' I briefly looked at the site you linked above to if the next one, 'Safe', was a Whedon eps or not - it's not, so I'll need to get through it and on to your favourite.

Blood&Iron
03-31-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr


I'll plan on getting to at least two more this week. Which should bring me to 'Our Mrs. Reynolds' I briefly looked at the site you linked above to if the next one, 'Safe', was a Whedon eps or not - it's not, so I'll need to get through it and on to your favourite.
Well, I really think every episode is good, and none need to be 'gotten through.' Even "Bushwacked" which is, as I've mentioned before, probably the least compelling is quite entertaining IMO. Some of my personal favorites WEREN'T written by Whedon: Ariel, Jaynestown, and Out of Gas. As far as I know the Whedon penned eps are: the pilot, 'The Train Job'(which upon rewatching it, I've decided is quite good; you just need to be acquainted with the characters), 'Our Mrs. Reynolds', and 'Objects in Space', all of which except OMR Whedon also directed.

'Firefly' really tended to vary quite a bit from one episode to the next in terms being weighted more towards comedy or drama. 'Our Mrs. Reynolds' is probably the most comedic episode, with a ton of funny dialogue. 'Jaynestown' is a close 2nd in that category. 'Ariel' was probably my favorite action episode, and 'Objects in Space', my favorite philosphical episode. Dunno where 'OUt of Gas' fits in to this scheme, but it was damn good, too.

Oddly, 'War Stories' which a lot of folks on the Firefly boards thought was one of best episodes, didn't do much for me. It was decent, but the characterizations/writing just didn't ring true tob me, for whatever reason.

Go figure.

galileo
04-02-2003, 08:58 PM
I would like to rent a beach chair?

Blood&Iron
04-03-2003, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by galileo
I would like to rent a beach chair?

Not quite Nietzsche, is it?

rookiebldr
04-03-2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Blood&amp;Iron from PM
Nah, I just hop on once or twice, real quick for 3-5 minutes when I get to work. Everything's fine. ... Right now, my internship is extending to two months ...


Hey, that is great news B&I. Glad to hear that it's been extended.

Blood&Iron
04-03-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by rookiebldr


Hey, that is great news B&I. Glad to hear that it's been extended.
THanks.

Plus, they're gonna start paying me.

rookiebldr
04-03-2003, 09:14 PM
That is always a good thing. No more freebies for a couple of months. But now you'll have to stop slacking and actually put in the work for that pay. ;)