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Y2A
11-13-2002, 08:43 AM
Is it ok to do short cycles, like 4 weeks of bulking and 4 weeks of cutting? I really dont want to gain too much weight at once and have to buy a new wardrobe ;)

Paul Stagg
11-13-2002, 09:52 AM
IMO, longer cycles are more effective, but to a certain extent, it depends on your methodology.

BennettBoy
11-13-2002, 10:00 AM
Why not just try to train smart, eat big...yet clean, get plenty of rest and try to put on LBM very slowly? I did that for 3 years and went from 155 to 185 and stayed under 10% bf. You don't have to bulk and cut to make gains.

Y2A
11-13-2002, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by BennettBoy
Why not just try to train smart, eat big...yet clean, get plenty of rest and try to put on LBM very slowly? I did that for 3 years and went from 155 to 185 and stayed under 10% bf. You don't have to bulk and cut to make gains.

I didnt know that worked :D That sounds like a good plan, that way when I grow out of my clothes it will be muscle and not cause Im fat ;) Thanks for both opinions.

Stray
11-13-2002, 11:00 AM
Yeah, I've seen a few people put on some great LBM without going through bulk/cut cycles.

ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE~

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-13-2002, 11:19 AM
6 weeks gain, 4 weeks cut.

Y2A
11-13-2002, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
6 weeks gain, 4 weeks cut.

Sounds reasonable. Thanks.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-13-2002, 12:17 PM
It's a bit theoretical.

Based on hovering around your maintenance calorie level.

6 weeks just over maintenance aiming to put on about 0.5lb of muscle a week, followed by 4 weeks just under maintenance to strip away about 2-4lbs of fat (depending on how fat you are).

The theory is that you should stay around about the same weight while getting leaner and more muscular.

It's a concept i'm playing around with right now but haven't been doing it long enough to tell you if it's worth it yet.

Avatar
11-13-2002, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
It's a bit theoretical.

Based on hovering around your maintenance calorie level.

6 weeks just over maintenance aiming to put on about 0.5lb of muscle a week, followed by 4 weeks just under maintenance to strip away about 2-4lbs of fat (depending on how fat you are).

The theory is that you should stay around about the same weight while getting leaner and more muscular.

It's a concept i'm playing around with right now but haven't been doing it long enough to tell you if it's worth it yet.

I'm doing something like that too. More like 8 week bulk, 4-6 week cut. However my bulks I still put on too much weight. I gotta work on that.

Y2A
11-13-2002, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
It's a bit theoretical.

Based on hovering around your maintenance calorie level.

6 weeks just over maintenance aiming to put on about 0.5lb of muscle a week, followed by 4 weeks just under maintenance to strip away about 2-4lbs of fat (depending on how fat you are).

The theory is that you should stay around about the same weight while getting leaner and more muscular.

It's a concept i'm playing around with right now but haven't been doing it long enough to tell you if it's worth it yet.

If it works how you draw it up, that would be IDEAL. :)

MRJ
11-14-2002, 12:45 PM
I'm not a big fan of designated bulking/cutting cycles, here's what I do:

Eat slightly past/below AMR (250-500 calories) dependent upon the desired effect.

Take measurements monthly to monitor progress, make adjustments & keep motivated. (lean mass +/- is the trigger)

When I get tired of one or the other, my lean mass gets to far away from where I like it or I just want to see something different in the mirror, I switch.