View Full Version : creatine and cancer, i think this is just bs
joey54
01-25-2001, 08:08 PM
http://espn.go.com/moresports/news/2001/0125/1039771.html
you guys can check this out, doesn't really scare me much, nor does it sound too valid, but that you all would be interested.
the doc
01-25-2001, 09:38 PM
Science and the media with their heads up their *****. They might as well recommend they ban red meat as well. The article is written about a web page of the french govt. hhardly a reputable source as they and britain were lienig to each other about mad cow disease!
joey54
01-25-2001, 10:08 PM
yep that is what i thought as well, but figured that everyone else would be interested in seeing this. those college stat courses are actually paying off for me, hehehe.
Wizard
01-26-2001, 06:49 AM
I read yesterday in the newspaper about this topic but i didn't pay enough attention.. It doesn't worth it.
Allen
01-26-2001, 04:54 PM
I saw the same thing in the newspaper yesterday. What a load of trash and the thing that annoys me about it is all my friends then go to me and say something like "how can you take this **** blha blha blha". I know theyre merely looking out for me, but how can they believe that nonsence
the doc
01-26-2001, 05:12 PM
i'm glad you posted it. Textbook case of govt. gone mad. The sorry thing is people believe this stuff...:(
Go Stars
01-26-2001, 05:27 PM
It doesn't even say why they believe it causes cancer. Just states why we use it and that it may.
Allen
01-26-2001, 05:30 PM
Good point go stars i was thinking that myself. In the newspaper i get the heading stated "Creatine causes Cancer", yet in the article it didn't say studies they used to prove it. Such propoganda.
when it said its only effective in sport where the activity last about 15 seconds, well a lot of strength training only lasts 15 seconds so this is waht most people hear want.this is the fisrt discrepancy hear without reading the report. did it say what dose and duaration the damage was done with creatine?
The_Chicken_Daddy
01-29-2001, 05:43 AM
From http://www.Flexonline.com :
First the facts. Creatine is safe. It is produced naturally from amino acids in the body and stored in muscles. Creatine in supplement form works as a training aid for many athletes. Creatine has never been proven to be carcinogenic or a health risk. And creatine has nothing to do with any perceived decline of Western civilization.
Unfortunately, news stories published around the world Wednesday claimed otherwise. These alarming bulletins of a creatine-cancer link were based on a report posted on the Web site of the French Agency of Medical Security for Food (AFSSA) that demonized the popular sports supplement. In its report, the AFSSA contends that creatine supplements present “a potential carcinogenic risk,” offer little if any benefit to athletes, and should be banned by all sports governing organizations.
The French officials’ statements were based on their interpretations of a smattering of old data of questionable relevance — not on any new research. Not only is there no new information released by the AFSSA report, its assertions are simply wrong. In fact, many of the studies listed in the bibliography of the AFSSA report actually confirm creatine’s safety and effectiveness.
Some of these studies have been cited in FLEX magazine. FLEX Science Editor Jim Wright, PhD, has written extensively on creatine supplements, and as recently as the December 2000 issue, Wright cited several dozen studies published last year in peer-reviewed journals that verified creatine's safety. “Creatine is one of the most scrutinized sports supplements in history,” says Wright, “and it continues to be proven safe in scientific research.”
So, how did last Wednesday's creatine scare story get its legs? How could respected news organizations accept these sensationalized findings by a French government agency and circulate them all over the world?
Blame it on a variety of factors. First, there are the now familiar excesses caused by the increasingly competitive need to be the first to run breaking news. Combine that with the immediacy of the Internet, and the first casualty is the cherished journalistic practice of carefully verifying stories and contacting corroborating sources.
Then there are the factors peculiar to this issue. Clearly, some of the finer points of the French report were lost in translation, and we don’t mean in the language differences. Rather, the conversion from scientific data to practical layman’s vernacular was once again irresponsibly mishandled by a media unprepared to carefully judge scientific reports. The result led to the AFSSA’s faulty conclusions going unexamined and unchallenged by news organizations before being distributed over the wires.
As culpable as the mainstream media is in this situation, the worst culprit in this fiasco by far is the AFSSA with its groundless assertions of a supplemental creatine-cancer link. Where the French officials went awry is in their extrapolation of data from a single study (M. Wyss and R. Kaddurah-Daouk, “Creatine and Creatine Metabolism,” Physiological Reviews, 80 [3], 2000) in which researchers determined if creatine in meat could be converted into cancer-causing agents by heat during cooking (see “Meat the Data” below for more details on this study). Inexplicably, the French health authorities implicated supplemental creatine as having the same harmful effects that carcinogenic substances found in charred meat are suspected of having! That’s the only support the AFSSA offers for its cancer-creatine claims. That leaves the French report with zero real data even remotely suggesting that supplemental creatine has any cancer-causing or cancer-promoting properties.
That’s it. This extremely weak evidence is what gave birth to the screaming headlines claiming that creatine may cause cancer. The result was needless hysteria, fear and confusion among the many athletes who use supplemental creatine.
The news reports on the creatine-cancer link that permeated the media Wednesday offered little perspective at all, and gave no explanation of the properties or many well-documented benefits of creatine. The accuracy and relevance of the AFSSA’s information were never questioned. We call on all news organizations that distributed this sensationalized story to clarify the facts of this important subject.
So if you are a creatine user, then don't worry yourself...
Maki Riddington
01-29-2001, 11:57 AM
Thank you for the explanation Chick Daddy,Very helpful:)
Behemouth
01-29-2001, 12:38 PM
and this is how we're suposed to find out "what's happening around the world" remind me never to believe what i hear on the news again
remember creatine is naturaly present in meat and fish. so i better not eat any makeral as that really high in creatine well now i am going to get a heart attack as i will not get my EFA's , all thanks to the french government. but i will not get cancer hoorrah!!. we if nutrition did not counterdict itself there would not be much to learn, so it gives me something to think about.
That news was BS. Media reporting out of context as usual. Study on charred meat turning into a news hoax about creatine.
Anthony
01-30-2001, 06:21 AM
99% of what is reported in any news article is a lie. If you have any doubts of this, you probably haven't been slandered in the media.
adrio
07-20-2004, 06:00 PM
Didnt yall know that everthing causes cancer now days, Creatine, Diet Coke, sleep(or atleast thats what everyone syas)... seriously though, when someone says to me that im gonna get cancer from something, I dont pay attention!
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